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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes anyone else detect a sea change today?
Guests on every network are calling Dump a white supremacist. He's not getting any slack except from that pasty white douchebag Mulvaney. Then he flies the flags at half-staff and his giant orange ass goes golfing. Piece of shit.
He did this. The blood is on his hands. Can we survive another year of this filth?
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)dalton99a
(81,590 posts)And again
Impeach the motherfucker.
Used to be that nothing got done until someone died. Not anymore, thoughts, prayers and flags at half staff will have to do.
Yea for our side.
leftieNanner
(15,154 posts)Moscow Mitch is getting some serious heat back home in Kentucky too.
With the NRA in turmoil, this may be the time to ACT and do some major gun legislation.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Fractured his shoulder this morning on his patio.
https://fox6now.com/2019/08/04/spokesman-senate-majority-leader-mitch-mcconnell-fractured-shoulder-in-fall-at-home/
Shall we send him thoughts and prayers?
leftieNanner
(15,154 posts)Elaine can see that hubby Mitch is goin' DOWN! So she sticks her foot out as he walks by with his Jack Daniels and Coffee, hoping he might hit his head on that slate patio.
Nice try Elaine. Next time for sure.
CharleyDog
(758 posts)people said "it seems different this time"
But, no. Not different.
So, no, I am sure nothing will be done.
If we marched in the street like Puerto Rico or Hong Kong, then maybe, but we are beaten down? apathetic?
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Not that we know of, anyway.
lapfog_1
(29,226 posts)at least for 20 more years
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... like there's a sea change when they treat the Trump aligned white supremacist terrorist just like the brown folk and feel as threatened about common society as I do as a brown skinned person.
thegoose
(3,115 posts)He out and out said that the orange bastard is KKK. They all need to!
Skittles
(153,193 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,460 posts)America sucks. And to be frank, weve always been a little overrated. I found that out when I started traveling internationally.
Srkdqltr
(6,322 posts)Anti immigrant, anti religion except Christian or whatever part of Christianity is in favor. Have always shortchanged our troops after a war. We are no better or worse than anyone else.
BannonsLiver
(16,460 posts)Thats factually inaccurate. We are the most violent among the wealthy countries in the world. That is backed up by data.
Our healthcare system is worse than a number of countries. Our public schools are worse. Our physical fitness is worse.
Save the both sides shit for someone who buys it. I stand by what I wrote.
pwb
(11,291 posts)It is more laid back in some countries for sure . agree
OldDem65
(76 posts)He has been really strong in speaking the truth with a lot of passion. You know what they say, the truth will set you free. I'm really liking him. I think I am going to donate to his campaign.
I heard that Trump is golfing again today. O'Rourke sure has stepped up taking on the kind of role any normal or good president would take.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Because Beto called tRump a White Supremacist. The prick Jonathan Karl did not confront Beto directly, but he waited until the next segment and asked the question to Heidi Heitcamp, who handled the question semi decently.
Regardless, the prick Jonathan Karl, is either a fucking wimp and was too afraid to confront Beto. Or the prick Jonathan Karl, is fucking ignorant and had to be fed the question by his producer.
The way to combat this is to confront the prick Jonathan Karl, exactly how Moscow Mitch is being confronted. The prick Jonathan Karl, should be called out wherever he goes. He needs to be made uncomfortable each and every day.
Then the prick Jonathan Karl, may finally realize what tRump is doing to people of color, how they are now living in fear daily. It is the only way the prick Jonathan Karl, and others like him, will understand.
Now will the prick Jonathan Karl, use it to claim both siderism, of course. He will do it regardless. But sooner or later it will hit them as long as we don't back down.
OldDem65
(76 posts)you really don't like Jonathan Karl.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Do you think Beto calling tRump a White Supremacist is equal to tRump hate filled rhetoric?
I sure as hell don't care for the media trying to put Dems on the defensive and Karl was trying to play the "both sides" do it. Or more succinctly, tRump can spark racial hatred but shouldn't be called out for it.
So Karl is collecting his paycheck, playing the game and trying to equate Beto with tRump. He does that because he is afraid of losing his paycheck, so he disregards morals in the name of money.
Now Karl isn't the only one, one of many actually. And taking the high road will result in further erosion of our democracy. They have had years to take on tRump and refuse to, why? But as soon as a Dem pushes back they attack the Dem.
Did the fucking prick Jake Tapper call out AOC for comparing the border cages to Concentration Camps, he sure as hell did. Did the fucking prick Jake Tapper every apologize to AOC when it became evident that they are Concentration Camps, he sure as hell didn't.
As I type this, the MSNBC anchor is questioning Dems about Beto's remarks. So it is obvious that the Repuke weekend spin machine is pushing this meme.
It is obvious that tRump is a racist. The questions should be directed at every republican guest. "Why do you support a racist?
Skittles
(153,193 posts)yes, Beto is outstanding - join us!
OldDem65
(76 posts)That poll from Texas is encouraging too.
IronLionZion
(45,534 posts)to murder Hispanic people in Beto's hometown. It's personal for Beto so I bet he speaks the truth with a lot of passion.
This is the only country where this keeps happening. It wasn't some foreigner. It wasn't a drug cartel. It was some dumbass white supremacist who didn't like this country becoming more diverse.
They joke about this in Trump's rallies. Trump encourages and doesn't condemn it from his supporters.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)It makes less than zero difference. By Thursday it will all be forgotten.
BamaRefugee
(3,487 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)in the cable blather.
suegeo
(2,573 posts)Is it true, that the puppet & his GOPee asshole enablers want to raise the flags on heil Hitler day?
Not a coincidence, if true.
riversedge
(70,306 posts)to undo his ruin of our environment. And the damage he has done to so many human minds will last a century. IMHO
Skittles
(153,193 posts)have you given up already?
Coventina
(27,172 posts)Sadly, all my hope ended with Sandy Hook.
Believe me, I hope I'm wrong.
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)They didnt after Pulse or Charleston either.
MuseRider
(34,120 posts)Usually things are said in groups I think, maybe that is just my experience. I apparently do not belong to any groups I totally disagree with on political issues. I do know I belong to one woman's group who regularly and thoroughly shake him down every day, it is my favorite group these days.
Duppers
(28,127 posts)maryellen99
(3,789 posts)tblue37
(65,488 posts)lame54
(35,324 posts)stopdiggin
(11,370 posts)Is Stephen Miller still working at the WH two weeks from now? If he is then ... "nevermind."
Vinca
(50,304 posts)Blah, blah, blah, mental health. Blah, blah, blah, video games. Nothing happened after Sandy Hook and no one would be surprised if the next nut took out the newborn nursery at the hospital. It's sickening what has happened to this country.
BamaRefugee
(3,487 posts)Duppers
(28,127 posts)pbmus
(12,422 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I wish.
bucolic_frolic
(43,295 posts)I think there is a sea change. The GOP is on the defensive, they look frightened, they know this issue will not go away, they have no solutions because of their rigid minds and ideology, their attempts to blame video games are laughable, they can't hide behind Trump and they can't hide Trump, they are naked and twisting in the breeze, and that will not change. Their fall is inevitable.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)So they weren't able to get the spin out immediately.
All the talking heads will fall back tomorrow after getting calls from the Repukes.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)ALL of them.
Spread the word!!!
BamaRefugee
(3,487 posts)Harker
(14,036 posts)so, thanks for the hope!
KentuckyWoman
(6,694 posts)Sadly
yaesu
(8,020 posts)so I'm not looking for any major changes.
cilla4progress
(24,772 posts)no
The Wizard
(12,549 posts)is anti American.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)So this sea change hasn't trickled down to his base.
keithbvadu2
(36,917 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)White terrorism phrase. Thats even stronger than white supremacy. Lots of MAGA people are cool with supremacy language. Terrorism is something new theyll have to grapple with.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Kablooie
(18,641 posts)then a quick reversal back into the Fox News tactic of blaming everyone and everything except the obvious causes of these massacres in order to protect Trump and the gun rights extremists.
The pattern will not change.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)At this point he can just go out and shoot a hispanic man on 5th ave and little will change. A sitting president cant be indicted. In fact, hed increase his support if he did that. We have two Americas.
IronLionZion
(45,534 posts)wprice2
(13 posts)All forgotten by end of the week, if not sooner. Listen to rethuglicans today talk-video games, mental health, Trump is in NO ways to blame, don't rush to blame guns, blah blah blah bullshit!!!!
BigDemVoter
(4,157 posts)If this shooter in Ohio turns out to be a white supremacist, the pressure on Pussy Grabber will intensify.
As for the terrible loss of life in OH, I can say that I DO hope the perpetrator IS a wingnut . . .
Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
In a few days, trump will be doing/saying some other stupid shit, Pelosi won't be doing every single thing we want her to do right now, there will be some other stuff going on with Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez or one of her aids.
Point is, there's going to be plenty of other stuff to talk about. El Paso and Dayton are going to be old news.
But, it's heartening to see that there are folks out there on the networks that are straight-up calling things like they are, and the networks are airing it. Baby steps are better than no steps at all.
58Sunliner
(4,406 posts)associating his policies and his actions with outcomes among his supporters. Start calling his detention centers murder/torture camps. Stop calling them policies. These are sociopaths and psychopaths and the press wants to report on them like they are not. The disconnect has to stop. His tweets have to be scrutinized through the lens of fascism and racism. That giant POS is undoubtedly already planning a diversionary attack to try to force the focus elsewhere.
triron
(22,020 posts)elocs
(22,609 posts)Yes, we can survive another year of Trump, but another 5 years is very, very doubtful.
BootinUp
(47,188 posts)enid602
(8,655 posts)The sea change will only occur when trump announces hell end or substantially cut SS and Medicare. With a $1.5 trillion projected deficit this year, its not too far off. We wont have a constitution by then. . .
Blaukraut
(5,695 posts)we will be here again.
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)I am hoping as the week breaks we will see a true reckoning.
Texin
(2,597 posts)If the deaths of babies - five and six year olds for god's sake - wasn't enough for the motherfuckers in the rethug party to stop their god forsaken stonewalling in favor of the goddamned NRA, nothing ever will be. It's gotten steadily worse every day thereafter. And we've got fucking Russia funneling monies into the coffers of the RNC via the NRA, along with a fucking Russian asset or the ultimate Manchurian Candidate, if you will, inciting stochastic national terrorism on a minute-by-minute basis from the Oval Office on twitter. These two incidents over the weekend along with every other victim in the hours since who've been murdered in America's shooting gallery will be forgotten within the next twenty four hours. Mark my words on this.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)So far the media isn't protecting him. Although they aren't commenting that we have seen this play out before. (although one guest on MSNBC did bring review his speech with "let's see what how he acts at his next rally)
But overall he is getting smacked down hard on both MSNBC and CNN. FFS even Chris Jansing pointed out the House has passed bills and are waiting for the Senate to act. She could have called out Mitch directly, but still much better than expected.
Admittedly, I have been boycotting all cable news since the election, but I don't see a few guests speaking up fundamentally changing the metabolism of how they operate. We speak out on social media all the time. Then the media returns to form. For the news/propaganda dissemination industry, Trump is a spectacle good for their bottom line, no matter how much people are suffering.
Predictions of his imminent electoral demise should be taken lightly. We will have to vote him out without any help from the media. We have difficult work ahead.
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:42 PM - Edit history (1)
Seriously, news folks, it *IS* news when the President is setting a record number of days playing golf, and especially when doing so while the country is mourning. I can easily see a news program doing a segment EVERY time Trump is hitting the links, with video of Trump out on the green while the reporter either a) details all the important issues of the day, or b) describes how hard Trump claims to be working on those issues. Don't play for laughs, but treat it like any other news story, because it definitely is serious and affects the lives of the viewers.
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