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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:47 PM Aug 2019

This recently happened in Minneapolis - guy with guns watching a house with an anti-Trump sign.

The local Nextdoor web site just posted this:

Last week a person was parked in a Black BMW on multiple days for long periods of time near the intersection of xxxxxx. Police were eventually called and it was discovered he had multiple weapons and loads of ammo in the vehicle, including two semi-automatic weapons. He also had a bullet proof vest. He was detained and the weapons were confiscated but they were purchased legally so I believe he could go to the precinct and ask for them back.

Worth noting he told police he was watching a house - that happened to have a handmade anti-Trump sign in the window.
A xxxxxx neighbor contacted xxxxx council member xxxxx on 8/5. She replied the same day after having talked with (precinct police inspector) who let her know that a # of steps have been taken to respond to this situation, including the 'safe keeping' of the individual's guns until a very thorough background check is run, alerting all officers in the precinct about the details of this incident, an investigation by the weapons unit, and, this statement: "We encourage anyone who notices that the suspicious vehicle involved in this incident has returned to the neighborhood to call 911 and tell the call taker that firearms were recovered from the suspicious vehicle on 8/2 as the driver was parked in the neighborhood. Officers will make contact with the driver and occupants and assess the situation."


This was about six blocks from my house. They're everywhere.
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This recently happened in Minneapolis - guy with guns watching a house with an anti-Trump sign. (Original Post) The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 OP
2020 is not going to be a safe time Trenzalore Aug 2019 #1
Mad Donald.... goes Hyper Mad Max.... we clean up the mess. magicarpet Aug 2019 #10
They are going to try everything. Blue_true Aug 2019 #32
I'd bet a dollar to a hole in a doughnut gratuitous Aug 2019 #2
Don't they know that dems and anti trumpers can and do have guns? Srkdqltr Aug 2019 #3
This would set off exactly the national emergency powers ancianita Aug 2019 #14
not enough people believe the fascist takeover is very far along--- there will be blood.. pangaia Aug 2019 #28
Yep. By the time people realize we're too far gone, Dopey Donnie will have prohibited their ancianita Aug 2019 #30
exactly - it's a win win for them Locrian Aug 2019 #47
Don't stop there. They declare emergency and we... ? ancianita Aug 2019 #48
A friend of mine has a bunch of Democratic stickers plastered on her car LeftInTX Aug 2019 #50
Although I have wanted too, I have never posted a political sign at my house or on my car, RKP5637 Aug 2019 #4
Gotta' go with you on that one! MyOwnPeace Aug 2019 #8
A bait car with surveillance would be interesting! Would that be entrapment? Alwaysna Aug 2019 #21
I like that idea. Nt Maru Kitteh Aug 2019 #27
Who would know it was bait? defacto7 Aug 2019 #29
Put anti -trump bumper stickers on it. Alwaysna Aug 2019 #33
I don't think so. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #40
Entrapment would be if.. cannabis_flower Aug 2019 #52
Thanks! Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #60
the last time I had signs students from a local religious college kept stealing them nt yaesu Aug 2019 #13
My Dad instilled in me to never post political signs in your windows or on your car kimbutgar Aug 2019 #19
+1. Wise advice dalton99a Aug 2019 #43
I've seen road rage against people on the highway with political bumper stickers. zackymilly Aug 2019 #59
Exactly kimbutgar Aug 2019 #61
Same here. In Florida that is asking for trouble. Blue_true Aug 2019 #34
Same here. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #41
+a brazillion! nt tblue37 Aug 2019 #37
Geez. blm Aug 2019 #5
Sounds like the local police were on it though. Ligyron Aug 2019 #6
In some parts of the country the guy in the car would have been a cop. nt tblue37 Aug 2019 #38
This is in my daughter's neighborhood... snacker Aug 2019 #7
It's also right by an elementary school. Good thing school hasn't started yet. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #39
He was hoping to get a mention from Limbaugh or Hannity. lpbk2713 Aug 2019 #9
Maybe he is a "good guy" with several guns. alfredo Aug 2019 #11
the future is counting on us to have courage EveHammond13 Aug 2019 #12
"Courage is the price life exacts for granting peace." Amelia Earhart Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #56
"Courage, Merry. Courage for our friends." - Eowyn EveHammond13 Aug 2019 #57
A Brown Shirt exposed. kairos12 Aug 2019 #15
My brother lives in Minneapolis... N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2019 #16
This sounds like a time for a block-wide sign of support. kyburbonkid Aug 2019 #17
One would think a guy that can afford a Beemer could afford a brain.... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2019 #18
Probably driving Mummy or Daddy's car! kimbutgar Aug 2019 #20
The description was of a guy in his late '30s, not a kid. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #23
He could have moved back home kimbutgar Aug 2019 #31
Living in the basement.......... MyOwnPeace Aug 2019 #35
Could be a 30 year-old bmw Roland99 Aug 2019 #24
He won't be back. Scruffy1 Aug 2019 #22
If he returns, I'd call the police and complain of stalking. TomSlick Aug 2019 #25
Armed Trump Supporter Who 'Intimidated' Virginia Voter Is Allowed To Carry Weapon, Officials Say keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #26
Do they think no Democrat owns guns? GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #36
Evangelicals who equate Trump with Jesus aren't Christian. patphil Aug 2019 #44
Cars are forever stopping in front of our house. MineralMan Aug 2019 #42
I would go to a coffee shop or other business IronLionZion Aug 2019 #46
If somebody was just borrowing my wifi for a few minutes I wouldn't worry. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #53
Is the WiFi traceable to your home? NutmegYankee Aug 2019 #55
The important thing is that person is not a terrorist IronLionZion Aug 2019 #45
Liberals are among the shitstain's Enemies. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2019 #49
That 18-year-old in Ohio Ohiogal Aug 2019 #51
Do you have a link Sugarcoated Aug 2019 #54
Here's an article. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #58

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
1. 2020 is not going to be a safe time
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:50 PM
Aug 2019

He is warming up the band with his rhetoric. When he finds out he is behind in the polls (if he believes it) he will literally engage in the most divisive irresponsible language that he can think of.

It is not going to be pretty.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
32. They are going to try everything.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:03 PM
Aug 2019

The now likely realize that messing up the mail in a deep blue South Florida likely gave them a governor's chair and a US Senate seat. Expect them to send out threats about packages in the mail into post offices in blue areas. That is a big reason why I believe voting by mail or absentee in a competitive state is insane, vote in person, early if possible.

There will be physical violence from them on roads and in public spaces, so we need to be on the lookout for that.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. I'd bet a dollar to a hole in a doughnut
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:54 PM
Aug 2019

I'll bet this fellow isn't supposed to be in possession of firearms due to an earlier transgression against the law.

ancianita

(36,110 posts)
14. This would set off exactly the national emergency powers
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:54 PM
Aug 2019

MF45 is just waiting for an excuse to invoke.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
28. not enough people believe the fascist takeover is very far along--- there will be blood..
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:21 PM
Aug 2019

even here...every day it is.. "Oh, how worse can it get?"

Oh, today donnie did this.
McConnel did that...
beto is looking good in Iowa...
whatever...

Everybody WAKE UP !!!

ancianita

(36,110 posts)
30. Yep. By the time people realize we're too far gone, Dopey Donnie will have prohibited their
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 08:27 PM
Aug 2019

travel out of the country through his state of emergency.

It will be reluctantly followed through with enforcement by a christianized military and his cult finger pointers.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
47. exactly - it's a win win for them
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:06 PM
Aug 2019

We do nothing and get attacked, etc
We respond and they declare emergency

LeftInTX

(25,422 posts)
50. A friend of mine has a bunch of Democratic stickers plastered on her car
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:38 PM
Aug 2019

Some guy got aggressive and tried to run her off the road.

She pulled out her gun and pointed it at him.

He took off so fast!!!!

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
4. Although I have wanted too, I have never posted a political sign at my house or on my car,
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:00 PM
Aug 2019

especially now. There are just way too many crazies in this country just waiting for a chance/excuse to take some kind of mentally disturbed action.

MyOwnPeace

(16,929 posts)
8. Gotta' go with you on that one!
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:17 PM
Aug 2019

I can't afford to have my vehicle beat up in a parking lot - or have a road-rage idiot start something when I'm on the highway.

KEEP SAVE OUT THERE - AND GET OUT THE VOTE!!!!!

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
40. I don't think so.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 10:04 AM
Aug 2019

Entrapment, I believe, is getting someone to commit a crime they would otherwise have been unlikely or unwilling to commit. But someone better versed in the law can correct me on this point if need be.

I can't imagine legally parking a car that looks like any other that would be in that area, with an indication of a political preference, would be entrapment. If it looked wildly out of place and over the top...maybe? But if it looked pretty much like any other with a bumper sticker or two, I don't see how it's presence would be tricking someone into committing a crime they wouldn't otherwise commit. Interesting question.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
52. Entrapment would be if..
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:56 PM
Aug 2019

You set up the bait car and then told a Trumper about it and encouraged them to vandalize it.

kimbutgar

(21,168 posts)
19. My Dad instilled in me to never post political signs in your windows or on your car
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:22 PM
Aug 2019

This was even back in the 60’s. He said there is always some crazy that will attack you if your political beliefs differ from them.

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
59. I've seen road rage against people on the highway with political bumper stickers.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 08:26 PM
Aug 2019

Easing into their lane, brake checking, etc.

kimbutgar

(21,168 posts)
61. Exactly
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 09:02 PM
Aug 2019

They’re listening to hate radio driving on the freeway and see a “ libureal” with a coexist , anti fat donnie stickers etc and they act out the rage they’re hearing on the radio.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
34. Same here. In Florida that is asking for trouble.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:07 PM
Aug 2019

There are more registered democrats statewide, but in my red county, republicans lead DEMs by around 50%. The people here are more moderate, but I never know when I will come across a hyped-up psycho.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
41. Same here.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 10:07 AM
Aug 2019

I don't think the GOP lead is quite that high in my FL county, and the people are fairly moderate. But I've also seen some super-Trump supports I wouldn't trust to not flip out. There's one guy who drives around all day in this weird bicycle-type contraption festooned with Trump banners. Would not want to be alone with that guy!

Ligyron

(7,636 posts)
6. Sounds like the local police were on it though.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:11 PM
Aug 2019

Took the appropriate action going forward. That should be encouraging. In some parts of the country they might not be so responsive.

snacker

(3,619 posts)
7. This is in my daughter's neighborhood...
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:12 PM
Aug 2019

maybe 3 blocks away. A friend of hers lives on the block where this incident took place and witnessed the event. Quite the scary situation in a very safe Minneapolis neighborhood.

kairos12

(12,862 posts)
15. A Brown Shirt exposed.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:59 PM
Aug 2019

Drumpt, no doubt, will encourage MAGA zombies to show up armed around polling places to deter "illegal voting."

You bet this will happen.

kyburbonkid

(251 posts)
17. This sounds like a time for a block-wide sign of support.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:12 PM
Aug 2019

Sounds like a fox hypnotized trumpazoid with too much internet access.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
18. One would think a guy that can afford a Beemer could afford a brain....
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:16 PM
Aug 2019

with some common sense. Unlike his idol tRump, this guy is not very good at concealing his malfeasance.

Stalking is not taken lightly in most neighborhoods these days and events like this are not looked at positively by employers.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
22. He won't be back.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 07:45 PM
Aug 2019

Having spent 45 or so years in Minneapolis I know the cops have his dope and every squad wil be looking for him. These peopel are just cowards and bullies. he might get his shit back eventually after a whole lot of red tape and "missing papers" No cop wants to have to deal with a heavily armed and dangerous lunatic. He wiill stay out of town. A cop can write tickets endlessly. Oh, failure to signal, not coming to a full stop etc. I estimate the average driver is guilty of a ticketible offense about every 3 blocks. I am sure the FBI has been called and a file has been started.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
36. Do they think no Democrat owns guns?
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:18 PM
Aug 2019

Our party platform calls out support for the second amendment. With tons of calls for heavy regulation like a renewed AWB.

Where I grew up everyone owns guns. And most everyone hunts. Nationally it’s seems a divided issue because so many democrats live in urban environments. Owning a gun makes no sense. Even more so on DU. And I get it.

But in the south and Midwest gun ownership is not a partisan issue. Gun worship is!

I have evangelical family members who with a straight face will tell you jesus wants his followers to own guns. And I am not bullshitting. I have heard it and will again in a few month when I visit family. The are batshit crazy and there is no winning them over.

And everyone of them also believes god sent trump and if you don’t support him you soul is at risk for eternal damnation. They think they are on a mission from god. It will get worse before we vote him out.












patphil

(6,186 posts)
44. Evangelicals who equate Trump with Jesus aren't Christian.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:16 PM
Aug 2019

They may be on a mission from god, but their "god" is a satan.

Patrick Phillips

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
42. Cars are forever stopping in front of our house.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 10:42 AM
Aug 2019

Why? Because we have Xfinity hot spot WiFi enabled. I watch them. They pull over to the curb and use their devices. A lot of real estate people with magnetic signs on their doors, and others, as well.

I could turn it off, but I know I've used others Xfinity hot spots myself. It's a separate system on the modem that is not connected to our network in any way. I think the idea is that enough people enabling this feature will help provide WiFi access in most places. I'm for that, I suppose.

Anyhow, I quit worrying about cars parking in front of my house for a few minutes.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)
53. If somebody was just borrowing my wifi for a few minutes I wouldn't worry.
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:56 PM
Aug 2019

If they're sitting there day after day with a car full of guns and ammo, then I would worry.

NutmegYankee

(16,200 posts)
55. Is the WiFi traceable to your home?
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 06:10 PM
Aug 2019

If it is, it’s just inviting a SWATIng by someone who uses it to make a threat that they know will result in a SWAT deployment.

IronLionZion

(45,466 posts)
45. The important thing is that person is not a terrorist
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 03:33 PM
Aug 2019

since he has no political agenda

Charge him with stalking, harassment, intimidation, etc. There is a crime there. People have been murdered by police in Minneapolis without committing any crime.

Ohiogal

(32,015 posts)
51. That 18-year-old in Ohio
Tue Aug 13, 2019, 04:43 PM
Aug 2019

In possession of all those firearms and ammo who vowed to kill federal agents and go after Planned Parenthood isn’t far from my house, either. It’s really scary, Ocelot. I hear ya.

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