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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:26 AM Aug 2019

Republican lawmaker aided group training young men for 'biblical warfare'

Revealed: Republican lawmaker aided group training young men for 'biblical warfare'
The group ‘Team Rugged’ offers ‘patriotic and biblical training’ that includes instruction on how to use knives and guns
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/13/matt-shea-biblical-war-washington-team-rugged?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVUy0xOTA4MTQ%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUS&CMP=GTUS_email

The Republican politician Matt Shea connected close allies with a group offering training to young men in “biblical warfare” that includes how to use knives, pistols and rifles, with lessons based in part on the teachings of a Georgia-based neo-Confederate pastor, emails obtained by the Guardian reveal.

Shea, who is an elected Washington state representative, later made videos in support of the group, and appeared alongside them at a gathering at a religious community in remote eastern Washington. He also paid the founder of the group money from his campaign fund in 2018.

The emails, sent in July 2016, begin with an email from Patrick Caughran, who presents himself as the founder of a training group called Team Rugged. They were provided to the Guardian by a former Shea associate who was copied in on the exchange.

Caughran asks Shea to publicize a link to the group’s Facebook page, and put him in touch with “John Jacob Schmidt”, the nom de guerre of Shea associate, Jack Robertson. Robertson is a rightwing podcast host who advocates for conservatives to move to the “American Redoubt” in eastern Washington, Idaho and Montana, and, with Shea, campaigns for eastern Washington to secede and form its own state.

On Team Rugged website, it is described as “a Christian organization that strongly believes in building manly character and the capability to stand in adversity in young men”.

In his email to Shea, however, Caughran offers a different description, saying that the group exists “to provide patriotic and biblical training on war for young men”.

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Republican lawmaker aided group training young men for 'biblical warfare' (Original Post) dajoki Aug 2019 OP
So he's radicalizing them at training camps.... tanyev Aug 2019 #1
If they were brown a drone strike would be imminent NightWatcher Aug 2019 #3
Those Heathen... Newest Reality Aug 2019 #2
AKA - similar to Hitler Youth Camps! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2019 #4
He needs to resign. chowder66 Aug 2019 #5
It's their new religion dalton99a Aug 2019 #6
It would be justified to call out the National Guards if they try to secede. LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #7
Nothing new here Cyrano Aug 2019 #8
The first targets of the Crusades were not Muslims. Archae Aug 2019 #12
Join the Army. Ilsa Aug 2019 #9
How is this any different from a Jihadist training camp? Coventina Aug 2019 #10
If you've gone traipsing through the Bible and your takeaway is hate your neighbor gratuitous Aug 2019 #11
Every time I mention that we're at war, someone gets upset. FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #13
K&R Duppers Aug 2019 #14

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. Those Heathen...
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:38 AM
Aug 2019

Creating their own Simu-Jesus. Oh, they can ruin their own religion. It simply helps in making it irrelevant and obsolete. To believe in something and then completely ignore its teacher's values is inane in any context.

"Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." Matthew 26:52 (KJB)

"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." Matthew 5:39

It sounds like they are looking to pick a fight. There is a persecution complex involved and they tend to think they need to be persecuted even when there is no real threat. That is often exploited by the wolves.

chowder66

(9,075 posts)
5. He needs to resign.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:13 AM
Aug 2019

"Since the Guardian’s previous revelations about Shea’s involvement in private chats, and his appearances on podcasts and public events, Washington’s state house has commenced an investigation into his activities, and has hired an outside firm to investigate Shea’s associations with political violence."

LiberalFighter

(51,054 posts)
7. It would be justified to call out the National Guards if they try to secede.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:24 AM
Aug 2019

And use whatever means necessary. Treat them like the Confederates.

Cyrano

(15,051 posts)
8. Nothing new here
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:31 AM
Aug 2019

The Crusades went on for about three centuries. The Pope wanted to wipe out the Muslims and regain control of "The Holy Land." So thousands of European Christians were trained as soldiers and used as canon fodder.

Religious fanatics of one brand or another have always drowned much of humanity in blood in the name of god. And they're still at it.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. If you've gone traipsing through the Bible and your takeaway is hate your neighbor
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:42 AM
Aug 2019

You're practicing bad theology.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
13. Every time I mention that we're at war, someone gets upset.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 01:11 PM
Aug 2019

But see? This is a war.

If we don't fight it, we'll lose it.

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