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The Dow just Opened Down - 447 (Original Post) spanone Aug 2019 OP
You can't tell me that Don the Con CanonRay Aug 2019 #1
I believe that's what the tariffs are all about. dchill Aug 2019 #2
If course, he did this EXACT thing in the late 80s and 90s but uponit7771 Aug 2019 #5
trump could make actual millions of $ in just 1 down day and reverse his rehtoric for one big up day empedocles Aug 2019 #6
Oil down a significant 3.54% at 9:45a empedocles Aug 2019 #3
Bonds 2 year vs 10 year yields Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #4
Personally, I think Brexit is going to trigger it. CanonRay Aug 2019 #9
There is a mess of bad news out there Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #12
CNN says lots of recession fears due to trade wars Takket Aug 2019 #7
Plus, a Cheeto re-election would almost certainly mean a 2008-style debacle - which would be worse sandensea Aug 2019 #8
-522 10:02 am cst spanone Aug 2019 #10
WOW! −539.14 n/t malaise Aug 2019 #11
- 609.....we're so tired of winning. spanone Aug 2019 #13
Sure looks so malaise Aug 2019 #14
Down −626.58 n/t malaise Aug 2019 #15
We know trump will never mention the market when it's in decline. spanone Aug 2019 #16
He overplayed his hand Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #17
'He has no clue' so true.. -650 spanone Aug 2019 #18
What ReTHUGs will tolerate for power malaise Aug 2019 #19
he's tweeting now....he's so fucking clueless spanone Aug 2019 #20
It was up 350 yesterday... lame54 Aug 2019 #21
I'd guess it points to instability? spanone Aug 2019 #22
-747.00 spanone Aug 2019 #23
Selloff picking up late in the day Johnny2X2X Aug 2019 #24
trump is killing the Obama recovery/economy Gothmog Aug 2019 #25
and NOW: elleng Aug 2019 #26
-800.56 -3.05% spanone Aug 2019 #27
Here is a great comparison of stock market performance under each POTUS Gothmog Aug 2019 #28
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2019 #29

CanonRay

(14,112 posts)
1. You can't tell me that Don the Con
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:37 AM
Aug 2019

isn't manipulating the market for profit. A few well place puts and calls and he'd make millions. Is it in his nature to pass that up? I think not. All he has to do is talk about more sanctions and the market plummets and then change his mind and it's up. Has he got somebody making trades for him?

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
5. If course, he did this EXACT thing in the late 80s and 90s but
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:14 AM
Aug 2019

... with individual companies and not the whole market.

It was an ongoing joke with him and stocks

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. trump could make actual millions of $ in just 1 down day and reverse his rehtoric for one big up day
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:32 AM
Aug 2019

Johnny2X2X

(19,108 posts)
4. Bonds 2 year vs 10 year yields
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:12 AM
Aug 2019

Long term bonds have had a lower yield than shot terms for a while, that's the yield curve inversion you've been hearing about. But this was that 10 year bonds fell below 2 year bonds for yield. Hasn't happened since 2007 and has correctly predicted every recession in the last 45 years.

Basically, we're going to have a recession, period.

What it has predicted in the past though is that the recession is on average 22 months way, so this means a 2021 recession if taken alone. But it can;t be taken alone, there have been other signs of a recession that lead experts to believe one is coming in 2020, perhaps even early 2020.

Johnny2X2X

(19,108 posts)
12. There is a mess of bad news out there
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:16 AM
Aug 2019

Germany might be entering a recession. China is slowing down (They don't really even care).

It's a global recession and it's inevitable right now.

Takket

(21,620 posts)
7. CNN says lots of recession fears due to trade wars
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:36 AM
Aug 2019

Honestly if it helps us get rid of drumpf and win the Senate, I say bring on the recession. I know it would hurt people but not as many people as four more years of the worst leader in US history.

sandensea

(21,657 posts)
8. Plus, a Cheeto re-election would almost certainly mean a 2008-style debacle - which would be worse
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:38 AM
Aug 2019

Just like with Dubya.

spanone

(135,862 posts)
16. We know trump will never mention the market when it's in decline.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:51 AM
Aug 2019

Never does....but brags when it goes up.

This is ALL ON HIM.

Johnny2X2X

(19,108 posts)
17. He overplayed his hand
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:57 AM
Aug 2019

He has no clue, the economy was already due for a recession, and he stirred the pot and guaranteed one. Now it's just a matter of when it occurs.

But even if we aren't officially in a recession before the election, the economy will clearly be in decline by then and the economic news will be negative and a huge part of the election.

Johnny2X2X

(19,108 posts)
24. Selloff picking up late in the day
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:46 PM
Aug 2019

-760, Dim Don Tweeting his tiny fingers away is causing it to be further spooked.

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