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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYou know, I have really about had it with all the near-daily "Ooh! Ooh! Now Trump has really sunk
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to a new low! This is it! You won't believe what he said/did this time! We/the Republicans/independents/the voters can't let this slide!"
YADA, YADA. YADA.
THERE. IS. NO. BOTTOM.
There is nothing new about anything Trump says or does on any given day. It is simply more of the same: ignorance, greed, corruption and mental instability.
The simple fact is that we should have impeached the sonofabitch months ago and our delay is beginning to smell a lot like passive complicity. We should be ashamed.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,109 posts)what should WE do? I feel very helpless to save America from complete disaster.
Funtatlaguy
(10,885 posts)power structure should have gone to him and told him if he didnt drop out of the race that they would make his life and his familys life a living hell.
They should have told all of his secrets and shamed him into quitting.
If all that didnt work, they should have endorsed Hillary.
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)I truly don't believe they thought he'd be the monster that he's turned out to be. I think they saw him as their ticket to get control so as to do the dirty tax and court things that is their reason for being.
So now, they have to live with their screw-up - and so do we.
LuvNewcastle
(16,849 posts)I don't think he would have been any better. Might as well have Santorum.
The Mouth
(3,162 posts)and being part of his family would be 'living hell' by definition.
He doesn't give a fuck about his secrets, not one of his base will care. Personally, I think even the tax stuff is a red herring, something that at the very worst will show what a shitty businessman he is (a fact already well known, fuck he lost money RUNNING A CASINO). None of it will change one vote in 2020, but it has caused more publicity (ALWAYS good!, to Trump there is no such thing as bad publicity) and been a valuable (to him) distraction.
The sheer hatred any and all decent people have for him even helps; we forget that he has, if not intelligence as we like to think of it, a craftiness, even an inventiveness and creativity at controlling the news cycle and provoking reactions.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)I enjoyed the outrages as much as anyone else.
Today I feel like screaming.
So much air time and ink is spent on his ugly mug. He is totally dominating our national conversation.
Instead of delving into the details of the corruption and crimes, we are blasted with the ugliness.
GO AWAY! JUST TAKE HIM AWAY!
lame54
(35,313 posts)Impeachment is happening as you rant
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)far and wide.... "We are determining IF there's enough against him." So if they determine there is, great...if not, we have to tell the world there wasn't enough? Same result but without the formality of a real vote and his name in the history books. Not in my name.
lame54
(35,313 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Articles right? (full House) My point is that if he does not, he will at some point say, no we are not. Or the committee will vote not to advance. Which would be the same as saying...you are exonerated.
Roy Rolling
(6,928 posts)So much BS daily. It worked against the rubes for a few months but now the sheer volume of lies and silly tweets are to distract from other things.
Like a recession.
Or Epstein death.
Etc, etc, etc.
ancianita
(36,130 posts)Attention to the trainwreck is addictive and people need to train themselves to look away.
CloudWatcher
(1,850 posts)In my dreams ... every reporter:
When facing a Republican should ask them if they have had enough yet. If
there is any low bar that would get them to support removal with the 25th or
support an impeachment conviction in the Senate.
When facing a Democrat should be asking why the house hasn't impeached yet.
The multiple transgressions are in plain sight. Other than a hearing to confirm
the details, a long investigation is just not required.
If I were running the House we'd be sending over new impeachment charges every week.
throwthe_shoe
(26 posts)the it get's taken as the normal and then people won't give it a second thought. then we are in trouble.
" if we don't learn from history we are doomed to repeat it".
i know it gets real tiring
Red Mountain
(1,737 posts)Laugh at him and his supporters. He's stupid enough to say it and they're too dumb to get it.
Mock him and his core endlessly.
They get that.
They will feel shame......and pull away from trump......but only after they realize they're the punchline.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Who Mourns for Adonais? TOS
Apollo needs adoration but Kirk and the landing party laugh and mock him instead.
I'm tired of seeing that ugly orange face.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)that Star Trek is responsible for. It isnt just the computers or the cellphones or the medical MRIs!
crazytown
(7,277 posts)start practicing your putting. Four!
homegirl
(1,433 posts)Trump will be off to Denmark to buy Greenland from Denmark, OMG! How retarded is Donald?
Blue Owl
(50,484 posts)n/t
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)We've got a lot more suffering to go.
wiggs
(7,816 posts)a nation, a democracy, or as a first world country.
A body that can't fight infection is in trouble.
And the infection will spread, if some serious, sweeping changes dont occur soon.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)him accountable is just beyond sad.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Shame for what? Other peoples sins? No thanks. They are the ones who are accountable for what they do.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)will finally send a significant part of his base running.
He's so greasy though. He always dials it back or sends ScabbyAnne out to spin it. He's always surfing the line and pushing what he can get away with.
Here's hoping he wipes out soon for the sake of the world...
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Except an appeal to the better nature they haven't got.
G_j
(40,367 posts)but worse than that, I am terrified.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)The longer the House waits, the more it sends the message that the conduct described in the Mueller report is not, in itself, enough to merit impeachment proceedingsand the more it weakens its own potential argument that such proceedings are a matter of moral and constitutional necessity, rather than the Trump camps refrain that they are a bare political calculation. After all, if the presidents obstructive acts, as set out in the Mueller report, were sufficiently dire as to demand an investigation into whether he had violated his constitutional obligations, surely the proper thing would have been to begin that investigation right away. And for that reason, delaying impeachment proceedings signals that the devastating material in the report is not really so devastating at all.
The moral urgency of impeachment can only remain ripe for so long.
Freddie
(9,272 posts)This time is too much! This will finally make the Rs see what a mistake they made! Etc. etc.
And I have to remind him, every time. No. There is no bottom. He could perform an abortion or drown puppies on TV. The ONLY way were getting rid of him is next November, please dear God. Or death in office, but since his dad lived to be 93, thats very unlikely.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)I voted Hillary, and James Cargas as my representatives.
I phone banked and canvassed for both.
I donated as much as I possibly could to both.
I both promoted and defended both as much as possible on social media.
I proudly did all I could likewise to get Lizzie Fletcher elected my district in 2018, and as much as I could for Beto for Senate as well.
No, I refuse to feel shame for the stupidity of others when I did everything I could to promote the best choices.
The ones that actually did Bernie or bust? Yeah, those should feel shame.
Stein supporters? Shaaaame.
Anyone but the 1% that supported/voted Trump? SHHHHHHAAAAAAAAaaaaaammmmmeeee.
Me? Not so much.
malthaussen
(17,215 posts)... some cretin will hand you a shovel.
-- Mal
LiberalLovinLug
(14,175 posts)I was sick of those during W Bush's term and I'm sick of them now.
The impending justice coming any day now because THIS TIME, they went too far, this time all the moderate Republicans will jump ship in national shame and humility and join us on the streets.
Because what it does is, even a little, get ones hopes up over nothing. He literally COULD shoot someone on 5th avenue at this point. And I'm sure there'd be repeated OPs in here that FINALLY he has gone too far and is going down. Yet the next day you'd have Fox n Friends helping Donald with a few talking points about how it was an act of defence, how the victim was a liberal nutcase and that their dear leader is not wrong when he said after that the US is better without them in it. And any other news organization that says otherwise is fake liberal news. Mitch would do nothing but mumble out something about it being "inappropriate" followed by Graham warning gun owners about the evil Democrats using this one little act as an excuse to strike off the second amendment.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,856 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)...there is the question about whether this is a result or a culmination.
I think we've been sick for a long long time and the disease is finally erupting.
russ1943
(618 posts)R&K
Paladin
(28,269 posts)When your party's leadership is stuck in 2008, and with a national media failing to show up, it's amazing what your adversaries can get away with. The OP is correct: we ought to be thoroughly ashamed of ourselves.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)it is that some expected one I find surprising.
Things are just barely getting started, he hasn't even warmed up yet.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)He is like a shock jock and will say anything for attention. And we repost every tweet and give him the attention he craves. Its shameful and we shouldn't play.
Evolve Dammit
(16,754 posts)Why ignoring of subpoenas (McGahn, Hicks, etc.) isn't clear, impeachable obstruction is beyond me.