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leftyladyfrommo

(18,869 posts)
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:09 PM Aug 2019

Poor Trump. He has no idea how to act like a

halfway normal person. He tries but it comes out all wrong.

Most psychopaths learn how to act normal. It's all just a show but they learn how to be charming and how to act in various scenarios.

Trump never learned. He just acts all wrong for the occasion. He is trying out smiling a lot right now. Last week he was trying to appear authoritative.

He's a mess.

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Poor Trump. He has no idea how to act like a (Original Post) leftyladyfrommo Aug 2019 OP
Psychopaths know how to act normal, Sociopaths don't give a shit about "normal". marble falls Aug 2019 #1
Would love Timmygoat Aug 2019 #2
That's not a terribly good distinction between psychopath and sociopath. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #3
The only thing I agree with you on is neither psychpaths or sociopaths can change. The big ... marble falls Aug 2019 #5
Ok Pacifist Patriot Aug 2019 #6
It's like he purposefully *TRIES* to be a dick. Initech Aug 2019 #4
K&R UTUSN Aug 2019 #7
Trump never wanted to lead or govern... He wants to rule. keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #8
I agree with this assessment Skittles Aug 2019 #9
Anybody else who does absolutely nothing on the job as Trump has done, other than to stand up ooky Aug 2019 #10
I Believe RobinA Aug 2019 #11
Interesting. But what's Malaria's excuse? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #12
+1, to some degree you would think she would be a check on him uponit7771 Aug 2019 #13

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
3. That's not a terribly good distinction between psychopath and sociopath.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:04 PM
Aug 2019

Psychiatrists quibble about the distinctions within the anti-social personality disorder. Online articles about the differences between the two don't help much as you'll get wildly different information/opinions with every article you read. Knowing how to act normal and not caring about acting normal doesn't really play into the difference.

Personally, I think it's such a gray area open for debate, that it really doesn't matter all that much. Whether you have a psychopath or a sociopath in your life, it's going to be a nightmare and they aren't ever going to change. Having one in the White House is fucking hell.

marble falls

(57,134 posts)
5. The only thing I agree with you on is neither psychpaths or sociopaths can change. The big ...
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 06:56 PM
Aug 2019

difference is psychopaths are more able to adapt to society.

"But psychopaths can often be seen by others as being charming and trustworthy, holding steady, normal jobs. Some even have families and seemingly-loving relationships with a partner. While they tend to be well-educated, they may also have learned a great deal on their own."


"Sociopaths, in general, tend to be more impulsive and erratic in their behavior than their psychopath counterparts. While also having difficulties in forming attachments to others, some sociopaths may be able to form an attachment to a like-minded group or person. Unlike psychopaths, most sociopaths don’t hold down long-term jobs or present much of a normal family life to the outside world."

https://psychcentral.com/blog/differences-between-a-psychopath-vs-sociopath/

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
6. Ok
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 08:28 PM
Aug 2019

If that's the article or blog post you want to hang your hat on, I'm not going to get in your way. Cheers.

Initech

(100,088 posts)
4. It's like he purposefully *TRIES* to be a dick.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:16 PM
Aug 2019

It's like eventually people can be capable of taking the high road. But Trump looks at taking the high road and every single time he chooses the wrong answer. Like it's a sixth sense or something.

keithbvadu2

(36,843 posts)
8. Trump never wanted to lead or govern... He wants to rule.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:16 PM
Aug 2019

Trump never wanted to lead or govern... He wants to rule.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
9. I agree with this assessment
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:26 PM
Aug 2019

like other sociopaths, he tries to mimic the appropriate behavior of others, but he is so stupid and selfish he just does it really badly

ooky

(8,926 posts)
10. Anybody else who does absolutely nothing on the job as Trump has done, other than to stand up
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:15 PM
Aug 2019

in front of everyone every day lying about everything, would be immediately escorted out of the building by security guards. This "presidency" is the functional equivalent of the episodes of Seinfeld, where George gets hired for jobs he has no qualifications for, and then goes in his office and sleeps under the desk all day.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
11. I Believe
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 12:01 AM
Aug 2019

that for whatever reason he doesn’t know how to read social cues. This is more a neurology thing than a mental health issue and has nothing to do with sociopathy.

The examples are many, but that picture in El Paso with the baby and Mel where he’s grinning and giving a thumbs up is exhibit A. No self-respecting sociopath would be that dense. The look on his face is tentative, he doesn't know what to do because socially he doesn't understand the situation or what is expected, so he defaults to what is the most common reaction when one’s picture is being taken - he smiles. He plays the odds and does what would normally be the right thing to do when somebody points a camera at you, but he loses his bet because that wasn’t a normal situation.

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