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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAll the job growth from 2018 to 2019 from the US Labor Departmet was false government propaganda
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-created-500000-fewer-jobs-since-2018-than-previously-reported-new-figures-show-2019-08-21Looking for help? Retail stores arent hiring a lot of people these days as online rivals eat into sales. The U.S. government on Wednesday said the economy added 501,000 fewer jobs than initially reported.
Turns out hiring wasnt nearly as strong in 2018 and early 2019 as the government initially reported by about a half-million jobs.
No doubt Trump's men pressured the Labor department to inflate the figures.
RainCaster
(10,911 posts)Fuckin liar
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)overwelmed...forgot what stupid shit he did two days ago. This is a huge phenomenon. It is working.
Sanity Claws
(21,852 posts)rurallib
(62,442 posts)Do they come from the same source?
Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 22, 2019, 07:16 AM - Edit history (2)
More information that companies need to provide at least annually adds to the data once a year that is used to revise numbers.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)variance?
Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,698 posts)The governments employment report each month is compiled from a survey of almost 700,000 work sites, but the BLS updates its numbers every year after rechecking its results against company tax records. These record are not immediately available.
Apparently the tax filings are what are triggering the modifications.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Next you are going to tell me that we haven't always been at war with Eastasia, huh?
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)dchill
(38,517 posts)It's all they know. Truth is for assholes.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)(According to Beck)
rurallib
(62,442 posts)about labor stats. They lie about every thing else, why would they not lean on labor bureaucrats to make up numbers also?
I know that the labor depot. has to go back and correct numbers, but no correct has ever been anywhere near this one.
I figured they were lying about these stats. I dont put anything past this administration. Who knows. Maybe they are lying about this too.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)And Trump deflates his wealth to AVOID paying taxes.
Appearances people.Must keep up the phallic of emmense wealth or size.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Demovictory9
(32,469 posts)uponit7771
(90,359 posts)captain queeg
(10,235 posts)Im sure hell bad mouth any government employees involved.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)triron
(22,011 posts)You know the media has been going into contortions for Trump.
wishstar
(5,271 posts)as the lower jobs numbers indicate weakness in economy and will push the Fed to lower rates
RockRaven
(14,990 posts)Anyone supposed surprised that guy's department carried water for Trump?
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)johnnyfins
(828 posts)I'll bet it's a lot higher. So now EVERYTHING about this shithole presidency is a sham. Very sad. Think about all of the good things one could do as potus. What am infinite waste of time. It's depressing.
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)If they accused Obama of cooking the books- it means THEY cooked the books.
BamaRefugee
(3,487 posts)PatrickforO
(14,586 posts)I really, REALLY hate to say this, but this particular anomaly is not Trump's fault, personally.
However, the fault DOES lie with the Republicans. You'll recall back in '14 when Obama was still in office, the Republicans absolutely would not pass any spending measure unless there was a corresponding cut. 'Budget neutral,' remember?
In 2014, Congress passed a budget that put substantial cuts on the Bureau of Labor Statistics, because hey, who needs data, right? So, BLS took back what the states had been doing and retooled the surveys so they could do it centrally. Unfortunately, the initial estimates were much less accurate than the estimates under the former methodology. This meant that both surveys used to calculate net jobs added and the unemployment rate yielded less accurate preliminary results, so the gap between the preliminary estimate and the final (adjusted) estimate was (and will continue to be) wider.
The Republican party is squarely at fault for this, but alas, not Trump personally.
sigpooie
(106 posts)Decided back in the 80s to only report unemployment numbers based on people who are unemployed for less than two years.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Anyone "sensing" the economy knew that it was losing steam under Trump, as soon as his policies began to take hold.
catrose
(5,071 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)James48
(4,438 posts)That it isnt Trump putting pressure on federal workers to fudge numbers.
Federal workers generally do the best they can.
If anything, its that it took this long to get actual data verified.
Remember, we lost 40 days in Dec-January for the shutdown, and the ripple effect is STILL adversely affecting things.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)former9thward
(32,068 posts)The same people who reported the original numbers made revisions based on further information coming in. This happens all the time with any administration. No CT....
calimary
(81,440 posts)I guess you do what you're good at, 'eh?
yardwork
(61,700 posts)Voltaire2
(13,121 posts)The other 99.7% happened. Read your own article.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)It just takes time for the full data to get to BLS and other agencies and to be properly analyzed. After that happens, the agencies issue revised numbers.