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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDavid Koch dead at 79!
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/right-wing-activist-david-koch-dead-at-79-report/?fbclid=IwAR0YofGGSNhBSFZoGyzLZXKhOtXhhnamxG6VYfg6aKTx5FbuLvf31VLIh0wSources close to the family confirmed the 79-year-old Koch, who retired from the privately owned Koch Industries last year, passed away, according to New Yorker reporter Jane Mayer.
Koch was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 1992, and he also donated significant sums to medical research, as well as museums, theaters and other artistic endeavors.
AirmensMom
(14,648 posts)I know grave-dancing is frowned upon, but it seems like there should be some exceptions.
superpatriotman
(6,252 posts)Dancing and spitting
AirmensMom
(14,648 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)too bad his evil brother still stalks the earth
magicarpet
(14,173 posts)... or is this grave right here okay ?
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)rzemanfl
(29,569 posts)I never could dance, but I can still piss.
Blue_playwright
(1,568 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)...I can still wield a spray can though!
rzemanfl
(29,569 posts)MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)Thank goodness Im on an iPad. That was priceless.
Clash City Rocker
(3,398 posts)And was everybody dancing on the casket?
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)Celebrate and throw parties, IMO. Some evil has left this world. I hope the POS was wearing asbestos on his death bed. IMO, he's gonna need it.
It's unpatriotic to not.
lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)the other one to go.
onetexan
(13,061 posts)i.e., if others rejoice then one has not lived a moral life.
Given the devastation Koch's dark money has caused to this democracy i'd say we BREAK OUT THE CHAMPAIGNE & CELEBRATE!!
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)As Mark Twain put it, "I didn't attend the funeral, but I wrote a very nice letter saying that I approved of it."
in2herbs
(2,947 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Fullduplexxx
(7,870 posts)I thought i saw satan greasimg up his pitchfork
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 23, 2019, 11:11 AM - Edit history (1)
Not bad for an atheist!
TalenaGor
(1,104 posts)denbot
(9,901 posts)Fuck him and his brother.
Meadowoak
(5,559 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)David gave money to medical research and other causes.
Charles was focused on giving money to help him acquire more power and wealth. While screwing the rest of us.
Meadowoak
(5,559 posts)Not have prostate cancer himself.
tavernier
(12,401 posts)the other brother, and was actually charitable and concerned about global warming. Whether that was just PR, I have no idea.
Botany
(70,584 posts)superpatriotman
(6,252 posts)Youre not supposed to say anything bad about the dead. Only good.
Charles Koch is dead. Good.
moose65
(3,168 posts)I just posted something similar on another thread about this!
cabot
(724 posts)She gave us a lot of great quotes, but thats one of my favourites.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Never heard it before. Thanks!
moose65
(3,168 posts)According to the LA Times, when Davis received word of Crawford's heart attack and subsequent death in 1977, she allegedly said, "You should never say bad things about the dead, only good Joan Crawford is dead. Good.
Javaman
(62,534 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)but it sure is tempting.
Thoughts and prayers.
Oooooo, this is hard!
procon
(15,805 posts)tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)eom
rpannier
(24,338 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 23, 2019, 09:47 AM - Edit history (1)
tanyev
(42,616 posts)UpInArms
(51,284 posts)💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽
Takket
(21,626 posts)I have no issue with celebrating the death of someone who spent their life causing others misery to help improve their own bank account.
Burn in hell, Koch
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)That his brother is still around to continue the agenda and that there are a gaggle of businesses and front organizations and policies polluting our gestalt that will live on.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Dagstead Bumwood
(3,650 posts)Just long enough to savor the thought of him rotting in it. Good riddance, you treasonous bastard. May your evil sibling be right on your heels.
2naSalit
(86,782 posts)Seems like I've been waiting for centuries for this! One down, one to go. Your move, Charles... do the world a favor.
Liberal In Texas
(13,576 posts)Shrek
(3,983 posts)Everyone forgets about Bill for some reason.
rpannier
(24,338 posts)It is an interesting and pathetic story.
Sad part is, in the beginning I side with Charles who used the profits to expand the business
Bill (and Frederick) wanted money
The father was whacked. The four sons became rather pathetic
Article is a good read on the whole litigation and the family fighting
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/koch-brothers-family-history-sons-of-wichita/
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)I feel bad for them that they had a f*cked up family life.
But just because they have money, they shouldnt be able to take out their childhood trauma on us and the planet.
We need to rein in American oligarchs, period.
quickesst
(6,283 posts)Takket
(21,626 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)We think alike! I am hoping for a chain reaction. Best news I have heard in ages.
quickesst
(6,283 posts)mine was just a little bit more.... expressive?
Amishman
(5,559 posts)I knew he was a billionaire but didn't realize he was worth quite that much.
Can't find details on his will. Afraid the bastard has it set up to pump fuck you money into every regressive right-wing organization
FakeNoose
(32,763 posts)...that's not the cash in his bank accounts.
Yes the Koch family has more money than they can spend in a lifetime, and that's how they can piss it all away on these libertarian schemes of destroying the government. There's still plenty more dough until the other brother goes down.
BannonsLiver
(16,457 posts)And none of it could buy him one more second longer. I take comfort in that. I bet at the very end the money didnt mean squat. These people spend their lives accumulating this money and then forget to live in the process. In a way I pity them.
citizen blues
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Volaris
(10,274 posts)Guys like this, are why the inheritance tax was invented in the first place. Yeah, keep enough so that maybe the kids dont really HAVE to work, if they dont have the same kinds of 'ambition' as the old man, but otherwise...
You can either leave it legally to approved charities, or the government can take it and do that FOR YOU.
If he had left billions of dollars to prostate cancer research, I'd be ok with that. We both know damn well that he didnt.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Clash City Rocker
(3,398 posts)PCIntern
(25,584 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)I set not by gold, silver nor, riches,
Ne by pope, emperor, king, duke, ne princes.
For and I would receive gifts great,
All the world I might get;
But my custom is clean contrary.
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)rpannier
(24,338 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Charles Koch is his father and he is very much alive.
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)jcgoldie
(11,646 posts)walkingman
(7,667 posts)live love laugh
(13,132 posts)RVN VET71
(2,698 posts)in a hovel in Guatemala, one of eight, already flea bitten and fighting its siblings for high-tit.
At least, one might hope so.
kpete
(72,018 posts)& Amen
Bigredhunk
(1,351 posts)He stepped away from the company a year or so ago do to poor health (Alzheimer's, I think). Charles is supposedly the more political of the two. He'll be 84 in November.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-meaning-of-a-koch-brothers-retirement
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,201 posts)MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)Youre next.
Bettie
(16,126 posts)loved him and will miss him.
But, I can't help thinking the world is a tiny bit better without him in it.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,201 posts)And he couldn't make it to 80.
sigpooie
(106 posts)Its not what he said.
It's not what he did.
It's how he made us feel.
Farmer-Rick
(10,212 posts)So, he basically did nothing good. Not compared to what he could have done.
Here's hoping the grim reaper visits that family more often.
Bluethroughu
(5,192 posts)I felt the universe a bit lighter this morning.
Takket
(21,626 posts)malaise
(269,158 posts)to bad rubbish.
Hope the brother now sees that you can't take it with you or continue to fuck up the planet from the grave
Deb
(3,742 posts)live love laugh
(13,132 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,818 posts)ChoppinBroccoli
(3,784 posts)Oh, that's right.
Linda Ed
(493 posts)and got away with so much pollution with their 100 billion dollar business..their father Fred Koch, who made his first fortune building oil pipelines for the Russian dictator Joseph Stalin in the 1930s. Back in the states, Fred Koch supported racial segregation and white supremacist groups like the John Birch Society.
Koch-funded efforts include the Republican national effort to unduly police the voting process to discourage young people, minorities and senior from casting ballots.
Koch Industries is a major polluter, with ongoing incidents and violations of ... Koch's negligence toward environmental safety has led to tragic losses of life.
I for one am not sad to hear this news as they have done much damage to our democracy and our earth with all their pollution in killing people with cancer...
David Koch is dead .. unfortunately, the damage he's done to the world lives on
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/here-are-11-things-the-koch-brothers-didnt-want-you-to-know/?utm_source=push_notifications
Freddie
(9,275 posts)Ill stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down
- Elvis Costello
get the red out
(13,468 posts)Before the right has theories of how he was murdered by liberals all over social media.
Freddie
(9,275 posts)According to the RWNJ press shes leaving a trail of bodies. Last one was Jeffrey Epstein.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)https://www.cbsnews.com/news/david-koch-died-conservative-donor-and-philanthropist-dead-age-79-2019-08-23/
dalton99a
(81,590 posts)live love laugh
(13,132 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)You can buy a state but you can't inherit.
dalton99a
(81,590 posts)Burn in hell or wherever, asshole
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)His money couldn't save him. Gives me hope the same will be the case with human garbage like Trump and Cheney. Not all these fuckers are destined to live as long as Strom Thurmond.
Ponietz
(3,007 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)KG
(28,752 posts)liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)pwb
(11,290 posts).
raccoon
(31,120 posts)ffr
(22,671 posts)Like the tRump family. The deal they've made with the Devil gives them eternal life.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,794 posts)Its really really hot here!!!!
TygrBright
(20,765 posts)RockRaven
(15,001 posts)ffr
(22,671 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,289 posts)The original was written to honor the patriarch Cyrillus, who ordered a crowd of young Christians to enter the house of Hypatia, the pagan philosopher and mathematician, drag her out into the streets, hack her to pieces and burn her remains in the public square (according to one account, she was hacked to pieces while still alive). After Cyrillus' death in 444, one of the bishops of Alexandria pronounced the following funeral eulogy:
"At last this odious man is dead. His departure causes his survivors to rejoice, but is bound to distress the dead. They will not be long in becoming fed up with him and sending him back to us. Therefore, place a very heavy stone on his tomb so that we will not run the risk of seeing him again, even as a ghost."
At the very least, that first sentence sets the right tone.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10022656603 (original post)
Coventina
(27,172 posts)intheflow
(28,504 posts)to be immortal and take down the human race. Good to learn he's mortal - and dead.
Blue Owl
(50,505 posts)n/t
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)Glad you're dead fucker. May the vultures feed upon your blood money.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Sad he couldn't have redeemed his rotten old soul before 'check-out time'. "May he be reincarnated to a family of impoverished beggars in a third world nation where 'this time around' he may learn humility, kindness and compassion".
RainCaster
(10,915 posts)One less Russky in our political system
AllaN01Bear
(18,412 posts)bdamomma
(63,922 posts)you reap what you sow. Ha! Hey don't they say in comes in 3's who's next, Epstein was the first, Koch the second, okay who's next???
Fritz67
(354 posts)That said, there are people I do not mourn either.
David Koch is one of the ones I will never mourn.
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)onetexan
(13,061 posts)dalton99a
(81,590 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 23, 2019, 07:08 PM - Edit history (1)
The legacy of David Koch cannot be extricated from the work he undertook with his brother. As Jane Mayer reported for The New Yorker in 2010, the brothers were ideologically sympatico, bound together by their disbelief in climate science and their opposition to industry regulation. Their work had massive reach, though their use of shell trusts and foundations can make their money difficult to trace. Mayer, however, has reported much of it out over the years, in pieces for The New Yorker and in her 2016 book, Dark Money. Through the Cato Institute which was co-founded by Charles Koch, and where David Koch once sat on the board of directors the Kochs funded analysts and researchers who denied the extent of man-made climate change for years. They donated copiously to the Heritage Foundation, which wraps climate change denial into a broader conservative platform that opposes LGBT rights and legal abortion. They helped establish the anti-regulatory Mercatus Center at George Mason University, and that came with certain privileges; in 2018, Inside Higher Ed reported that the university had given the Kochs a say in faculty hiring. Similar funding agreements also existed at Florida State University and Utah State University. Koch money bankrolled right-to-work groups that have worked for decades to reduce union membership a goal that has, according to most experts, contributed significantly to Americas increasing wealth inequality.
But whats bad for workers tends to be good for the Kochs. Unions cut into a corporations bottom line; they make it slightly more difficult for lowly businessmen to purchase Park Avenue penthouses worth millions. The same principle of self-interest applies to one of Davids pet projects. Through the Americans for Prosperity Foundation, which he founded, the family fortune helped mobilize the tea party movement. The id they unleashed the naked white nationalism, the antibig government hysteria, all those conspiracy theories helped seed the ground for Donald Trump. David and his brother refused to donate to Trump, but he is in many ways the culmination of their work.
The consequences of the groundwork laid by the Koch brothers will shape American politics beyond Trump. David helped his brother build an infrastructure to train a generation of lawyers, scholars, and politicians who would carry the Koch mission into the future. And in a memo reported by CNBC in June, APFs CEO said the group would now consider backing Democrats. But this shift was hardly proof that the Kochs, or the organizations they helped found and fund, had liberalized. Instead, APF wanted to keep the Democratic Party from moving left by protecting incumbents who lead by uniting with others to pass principled policy and get good things done. In other words, conservatives who might find themselves targeted by the next Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and would support the familys in oil and gas interests from the Green New Deal.
David Koch died before he could reap the full bounty of his works. We will not be so lucky. His legacy is poisoned water and dirty air, decimated unions, and Donald Trump. No amount of arts patronage can purify that stain. It is likely not coincidental that the small government the Kochs desire would leave artists and scientists at the mercy of billionaires largesse. Its as if he and his brother wanted to pitch us all on their vision for the world: If we let their companies gobble as much as they could, they would throw us a scrap or two. Never enough to live on; just enough to hold us until the next handout. They would allow us a glimpse of beauty, a mirage of progress, so that we would readily accept a cage.
onetexan
(13,061 posts)And spreading the myth of climate change denial. All for greed. Now he has to answer for his crimes to the Man Upstairs. As the article said, no amount of giving to the arts can take away his sins.
chowder66
(9,080 posts)live love laugh
(13,132 posts)Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)David Koch is dead.
Good.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)applegrove
(118,781 posts)what the children are like?
pamdb
(1,332 posts)I guess money can't buy you everything.
ellie
(6,929 posts)gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)enid602
(8,652 posts)I wonder if there's a connection between being a dick all of one's life and spending the last third of your life with prostate cancer.
Raine
(30,540 posts)but with this guy I make an exception! there's a special place waiting for him in hell!
jimlup
(7,968 posts)unfortunately another monster will fill the vacuum.