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Demovictory9

(32,475 posts)
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 09:16 PM Sep 2019

Kevin Hart suffers major back injuries in car crash - driver lost control of Hart's 70 Barracuda

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/01/entertainment/kevin-hart-car-crash/index.html

Actor-comedian Kevin Hart and two others were involved in a car crash in Calabasas, California early Sunday, according to a California Highway Patrol incident report obtained by CNN.

Hart and the driver, Jared Black, sustained "major back injuries" and were transported to nearby hospitals for treatment, the report states.
Black was driving Hart's 1970 Plymouth Barracuda, according to the report, when he lost control of the vehicle. It went off the road and rolled down an embankment.
Two of the three occupants were trapped in the vehicle. Hart left the scene to his nearby residence to get medical attention, the report states.

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Kevin Hart suffers major back injuries in car crash - driver lost control of Hart's 70 Barracuda (Original Post) Demovictory9 Sep 2019 OP
Please heal fast!! NT SWBTATTReg Sep 2019 #1
1970 Plymouth Barracuda highly desired. Prosper Sep 2019 #2
I was once in a friend's Barricuda doing 140. CanonRay Sep 2019 #7
Eh, I've done a tick over on a bike sir pball Sep 2019 #12
Back road in Wisconsin CanonRay Sep 2019 #14
Eeeergh sir pball Sep 2019 #51
I did 149mph on my bike in my mis-spent youth. CentralMass Sep 2019 #52
I-95, north of Bangor Maine sir pball Sep 2019 #53
I had the same experience and anyone who has gone that fast on a bike CentralMass Sep 2019 #55
I mean, maybe Marc Marquez or Guy Martin sir pball Sep 2019 #56
Same here. CentralMass Sep 2019 #57
700 HP Supercharged Prosper Sep 2019 #20
one of the passengers was a female.. HipChick Sep 2019 #3
Quite possibly the SO of the driver, then. nt Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2019 #4
Won't be the first time he was caught out HipChick Sep 2019 #6
Apparently she is the fiance of the driver. cwydro Sep 2019 #16
I dont get how that is important in this story, regardless of who she is. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2019 #26
she was his trainer Demovictory9 Sep 2019 #9
She was his wife's trainer & fiance of driver according to reports. N/T CottonBear Sep 2019 #21
I read that the female was his wife's physical trainer and the driver Blue_true Sep 2019 #30
Oh Barracuda... RockRaven Sep 2019 #5
Lucky any of them escaped from photos I saw. Hoyt Sep 2019 #8
photos Demovictory9 Sep 2019 #10
That's a modern Hellcat engine. uncle ray Sep 2019 #15
Nor really suitable for a convertible...if that was a convertible... pecosbob Sep 2019 #18
Emergency crews cut off roof. N/T CottonBear Sep 2019 #22
You had a 69 GTX and wanted a Barricuda? Blue_true Sep 2019 #31
To eaqh his own pecosbob Sep 2019 #45
Got ya, car love is like that, each person has his or her own vision of perfection. nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #48
Link to article about Hart's Barracuda: CottonBear Sep 2019 #25
Pro cyclist Peter Sagan has a 1970 Charger that was "rebuilt" in a similar manner... bullwinkle428 Sep 2019 #38
whoa. it's almost scraping the ground Demovictory9 Sep 2019 #40
Who isn't a fan of Peter Sagan jberryhill Sep 2019 #44
Crap bdamomma Sep 2019 #35
Surprised it was back injuries sir pball Sep 2019 #13
Big engine up front, no weight out back, and zero electronic nannies. sir pball Sep 2019 #11
When I was a teenager back in the 70s... Iggo Sep 2019 #24
Hamilton? Blech! Coventina Sep 2019 #29
However you feel about him personally, sir pball Sep 2019 #49
Gotta disagree with you on that. Ralf Schumacher wasn't really all that. Coventina Sep 2019 #54
Excellent post. The best way to start to figure out one of those cars is to put them in park, Blue_true Sep 2019 #32
No doubt speeding like an idiot. cwydro Sep 2019 #17
Car was updated & modernized. Seemed to have new seatbelts. N/T CottonBear Sep 2019 #23
New belts do nothing without a modern crash cage sir pball Sep 2019 #50
It went off a ravine literally near the end of his driveway. Blue_true Sep 2019 #33
you never want to see your name in the same sentence as the word RAVINE Skittles Sep 2019 #36
I was on a business trip in Northern California and saw a car go off a ravine while Blue_true Sep 2019 #37
Jersey kid next door my freshman year in the dorms at Maine had one. bluedigger Sep 2019 #19
"Lost control" jberryhill Sep 2019 #27
Hart was the front passenger. Blue_true Sep 2019 #34
Yes. But I'm saying that the driver didn't simply "lose control" jberryhill Sep 2019 #41
Agree. cwydro Sep 2019 #47
Must be some definition of "comedian" that I'm not familiar with Clash City Rocker Sep 2019 #28
Oh so edgy... SidDithers Sep 2019 #43
Why do I just automatically think speeding caused it? nt UniteFightBack Sep 2019 #39
Why, no, the driver simply "lost control" jberryhill Sep 2019 #42
Speed in powerful cars is achieved so fast and going Prosper Sep 2019 #46

sir pball

(4,759 posts)
12. Eh, I've done a tick over on a bike
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 03:35 AM
Sep 2019

To be fair, a lump of coal in my ass woulda been a diamond (credit Ferris), but on a proper open highway it isn't that bad.

Assuming you were on a highway.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
52. I did 149mph on my bike in my mis-spent youth.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:45 AM
Sep 2019

It was on a very straight long stretch of rural highway in MA.

In 1979, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration limited speedometers to a max speed of 85mph in an effort to get car and motorcycle drivers to slow down snd conserve gas. So the motorcycle magazines published the top speed of all the new bikes at redline in their top gear. I had bought a 1983 Honda V45 Sabre. It was a water cooled shaft driven sports bike with a 45 cubic inch (750cc) V4 engine with 6 speeds.
It was my first motorcyle and was a super smooth ride that was a oretty fast bike for that era. According to the report in 6th gear at redline, 14,000 rpm, it hit a top speed of ~149mph.
So a friend wth a Kawaski 1000 with a full speedometer and I did some passes on that rural stretch of highway and removed any debris we could find and then setup for the speed run. The plan was he was going to clock me riding side by side. At, as I learned, at about 140mph, his bike started to develop some front fork wobble and he dropped off. I continued on in 6th gear feet on the rear pegs, chest on the tank using the instrument cluster as a faring of sorts. I hit redline (14,000 rpm - 149mph) and eased up on the throttle. When i felt like I had slowed enough I sat up and the wind hitting my chest at I'm guessing 115mph nearly ripped my hands of the grips. It scared the hell out me.

sir pball

(4,759 posts)
53. I-95, north of Bangor Maine
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:12 AM
Sep 2019

There's a multi-mile straight stretch through a gigantic bog up there...I stuck my GPS in my back pocket, tucked behind the little cafe-racer fairing on my lightly massaged Suzuki SV650, and ran it to 12k in top gear. Time slowed down and the road turned into a tunnel in my vision...

Steady as she went, but after I stood up and slowed down, realized what I did, the shivers kicked in. I was wearing full leathers, I guess I'd have just tumbled into scrub brush and soft moss and been not much the worse for wear, but still. Dumbdumbdumb.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
55. I had the same experience and anyone who has gone that fast on a bike
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:16 PM
Sep 2019

and claims differently isn't being truthfull.

sir pball

(4,759 posts)
56. I mean, maybe Marc Marquez or Guy Martin
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:57 PM
Sep 2019

But any of us mortals, absolutely.

And yet I'd do it again in a heartbeat...

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
30. I read that the female was his wife's physical trainer and the driver
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 08:24 PM
Sep 2019

was her boyfriend. He likely was allowing the guy to take a spin in his car and the guy lost control.

Most muscle cars react big to minor pushes on the accelerator, unless a person is used to that problems can arise. California has nasty looking ravines just off the roadside and most don't seem to have railings.

pecosbob

(7,543 posts)
18. Nor really suitable for a convertible...if that was a convertible...
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:35 AM
Sep 2019

it's kind of hard to tell anymore. The big B-body Chryslers handled the power of a big block a bit better than the smaller E-bodies like the Challenger or Barracuda, but none of them were going to win a race on a course with a lot of turns.

My first car was a 69 GTX (an overpowered Belvedere) which would be worth an insane amount of money if I had it today, but I have to admit the 'cuda was the car I always wanted. And I've had Mustangs and Camaros and Chevelles, but never an E-body Chrysler.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. You had a 69 GTX and wanted a Barricuda?
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 08:30 PM
Sep 2019

Ok . You would have moved from close to Mount Olympus to lower, IMO. The only way that you could have gotten higher was to own a 69 Camaro, 69 Mustang, or a Shelby Cobra.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
25. Link to article about Hart's Barracuda:
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 08:02 PM
Sep 2019


https://www.thedrive.com/news/28919/did-you-know-kevin-hart-drives-a-1970-plymouth-barracuda-restomod-with-a-hellcat-v-8

Did You Know Kevin Hart Owns a Hellcat-Swapped 1970 Plymouth Barracuda

Modern-day Dodge Challengers and Chargers are performance machines with a hint of retro styling to them, but if you want the full retro Mopar experience, you need a 1970 Barracuda. The downside to the throwback muscle machine is that it's nearly 50 years old and doesn't have contemporary performance or reliability. Kevin Hart's new 'Cuda built by Speedkore is special, though, because it has a Hellcat V-8 Hemi engine under the hood.

Besides Speedkore, who has also built stunning machinery for the likes of Robert Downey Jr., Kevin Hart enlisted HP Tuners to modify the 6.2-liter supercharged V-8 and Gearhead Fabrications for, well, some of the fabrication. Sending power to the rear wheels is a ZF eight-speed automatic, the same automatic which lives in the modern Hellcat Challengers and Chargers. It's reliable, the shifting is quick, and it's easy to cruise around town in. While we would have liked to have seen it with a manual, there are worse transmissions to have.

The interior is completely redone and to save space and have a streamlined look, the 'Cuda has a rotary shift knob instead of a physical shifter. It does make the dash look sleek, even if it's not a retro-inspired component. New gauges pair to a period-correct steering wheel, making it look like it rolled off the assembly line in 1970

On the outside, noticeable changes have been made to the wheels, tires, and brakes. The 'Cuda sits low, with the wheels tucking up inside the fenders. The blue paint doesn't scream "look at me" but adds a classic vibe to the performance machine.

...snip...




Pre-wreck pic at link

bullwinkle428

(20,630 posts)
38. Pro cyclist Peter Sagan has a 1970 Charger that was "rebuilt" in a similar manner...
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 09:09 PM
Sep 2019
?interpolation=lanczos-none&fit=around%7C660%3A440

Engine: The engine had to have lusty visual appeal as well as brutal performance. Engine builder Kenny Maisano started with a Mopar Performance RB engine block, and built a wicked stroker with a billet crank and rods, forged 8.0:1 pistons, a Cam Motion billet hydraulic roller cam, Edelbrock Victor cylinder heads, T&D shaft-mount rocker arms, an Indy intake, and topped that sucker with a BDS 8-71 supercharger. Holley’s HP EFI system controls the Force Fuel Injection components, and the combination makes a legit 1,000 hp and 1,200 lb-ft of torque on the engine dyno at a very conservative 9 psi of boost.

Transmission/Rearend: To handle that torque, Westminster Performance built a bulletproof 727 transmission with a 300M alloy input shaft, four- and six-pinion planetary gear sets, and billet hubs and servos. Peter rows the gears with a B&M Stealth Pro Ratchet shifter, and a custom Drivelines, Inc. three-inch driveshaft sends power to the fabricated 9-inch axle with 3.00:1 gears on a Detroit TruTrac differential.


https://www.hotrod.com/articles/bicycle-champion-peter-sagan-builds-the-1970-dodge-charger-of-his-dreams/

I'm a huge Sagan fan-boy, so I recall this story from a couple of years ago!

sir pball

(4,759 posts)
13. Surprised it was back injuries
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 03:38 AM
Sep 2019

Rollovers in old cars like that, with no strong cage, usually end in head/upper body injuries.

Unless they weren't wearing seatbelts and got "thrown free". That tends to result in severe back injuries indeed.

sir pball

(4,759 posts)
11. Big engine up front, no weight out back, and zero electronic nannies.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 03:26 AM
Sep 2019

No one less than Lewis Hamilton should have been driving that car hard, and I guarantee the driver decided to punch it.

I love any and all old cars, but they will all kill you VERY easily if you don't know what you're doing.

Iggo

(47,565 posts)
24. When I was a teenager back in the 70s...
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 07:55 PM
Sep 2019

...more than once someone who had no business driving a GTO would wrap one around a tree or telephone pole.

We would say, only half-jokingly, that there should be a separate license for that much car.

sir pball

(4,759 posts)
49. However you feel about him personally,
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:29 AM
Sep 2019

And I think he's a whiny, entitled, self-centric little.tw...yeah..

He's the best driver since Schumacher and very possibly better.

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
54. Gotta disagree with you on that. Ralf Schumacher wasn't really all that.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:52 AM
Sep 2019


Just kidding.

But seriously, Hamilton was in the right place at the right time. He cracks waaaaay too easily under pressure. He isn't all that brilliant in the rain (even though people say he is, I don't know why, he crashes and spins pretty regularly in the rain).

I think that once either Verstappen or Leclerk get into machines that can rival the Mercedes (maybe if Ferrari finally get their shit together) they will wipe the floor with him.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
32. Excellent post. The best way to start to figure out one of those cars is to put them in park,
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 08:37 PM
Sep 2019

then test the engine response to accelerator pressure.

Like you said, the guy likely tried to punch it with little room to control what happened after that.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
17. No doubt speeding like an idiot.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 09:47 AM
Sep 2019

They’re lucky to be alive.

Hart is a homophobic asshole, but I’m sure he’ll be fine.

sir pball

(4,759 posts)
50. New belts do nothing without a modern crash cage
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:32 AM
Sep 2019

See how the entire top of the car was gone? Fresh belts just hold you in to be sheared off along with the roof.

Restomods are great, just don't think they're survivable in a crash.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. It went off a ravine literally near the end of his driveway.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 08:39 PM
Sep 2019

Maybe the driver tried to burn it on the highway.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
37. I was on a business trip in Northern California and saw a car go off a ravine while
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 09:01 PM
Sep 2019

headed in the opposite direction. Now a few seconds earlier I had both seen the San Francisco may in the distance way below me and saw house lights well below me. I really felt sorry for the driver, but there was nothing that I could do. I did notice other drivers that were going in the same direction as the vehicle slowing down to try to help. The next day as I was driving back in the direction that the vehicle went off the ravine in, the California Highway Patrol was still there, so my assumption was one or more people died in the crash.

If you want a scary drive, take Highway 80 between Mountain View California and San Francisco, of Highway 17 between San Jose and Carmel.

bluedigger

(17,087 posts)
19. Jersey kid next door my freshman year in the dorms at Maine had one.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 11:13 AM
Sep 2019

Red 440 with a six pack. He swapped out the rear end, put slicks on it, and drag raced it back in New Jersey in the summers. Carried a fire extinguisher between the front seats. He gave me a ride back from the hockey rink to my dorm on an empty back street once. Scariest six second ride of my life! And I've done some shit since then.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. "Lost control"
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 08:10 PM
Sep 2019

I love that phrase. He “lost control”. You know, sort of like when you’re not sure where you left your wallet. Maybe it ran away on its own. But it doesn’t sound like anything the driver did. He just “lost control”.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
34. Hart was the front passenger.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 08:42 PM
Sep 2019

One article said the boyfriend of his wife's personal trainer was driving and the personal trainer was in the back seat.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
47. Agree.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 11:05 AM
Sep 2019

I’ve been driving almost 50 years and somehow have never “lost control” of a vehicle.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
42. Why, no, the driver simply "lost control"
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 09:16 PM
Sep 2019

You know, the way one just happens to “lose control” of the massive death machine one is piloting.

Prosper

(761 posts)
46. Speed in powerful cars is achieved so fast and going
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:53 AM
Sep 2019

fast needs a lot of room to stop. One liter and bigger sport bikes can approach 100 mph from dead stop across a big intersection. Flooring a 700 hp car is exhilarating but also gets a car to 100 mph using up a 100 feet or more letting off the gas and putting on the brakes.

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