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Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:26 PM Sep 2019

Argument Between West Viriginia Pastors' Wives Ends With Gunfire in Church Parking Lot

Melinda Frye Toney, 44, is accused of pulling out a pistol that accidentally discharged during an argument with another pastor's wife at New Life Apostolic Church in Oak Hill on May 11.

Toney is the wife of New Life pastor Earl Toney while the other woman, Lori Haywood, is married to New Life's youth pastor, David Haywood,

Fayette Sheriff's Detective Kevin Willis told the Beckley Register-Herald the animosity between the two women had been simmering for some time. Their husbands had thought the women should publicly bury the hatchet to avoid additional strife.

"The pastor and the youth pastor had thought, 'Maybe we could get them together, we can hash this out and fix this before it escalates,' " Willis said Wednesday. "Of course, it just made it worse, I think."




[link:https://www.newsweek.com/pastors-wife-gun-parking-lot-1457652|]

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Argument Between West Viriginia Pastors' Wives Ends With Gunfire in Church Parking Lot (Original Post) Historic NY Sep 2019 OP
New Life? Ironic. defacto7 Sep 2019 #1
Change the name to Scarsdale Sep 2019 #36
New Life Apocalypse Church. nt blugbox Sep 2019 #59
Sounds about right. honest.abe Sep 2019 #2
I don't remember guns in the bible? malaise Sep 2019 #3
Yea, that's something the Talivangilists miss when they want Biblical Laws bigbrother05 Sep 2019 #20
The Bible is full of horrendous violence. Voltaire2 Sep 2019 #32
When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #4
Almost Heaven...West Virginia. Freedomofspeech Sep 2019 #16
The "Hallelujah" hairdo Generic Other Sep 2019 #42
more like an overpermed mullet yellowdogintexas Sep 2019 #79
Thanks a lot lonely bird Sep 2019 #46
What is going on with her forehead? unc70 Sep 2019 #57
we think it is a headband. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #58
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition! 🙏🏻 Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2019 #5
Should have buried the gun..... luvtheGWN Sep 2019 #45
Cap an ass for Christ. Behind the Aegis Sep 2019 #6
LOL! Freedomofspeech Sep 2019 #15
Almost spit out my coffee... too funny but then again not. onecaliberal Sep 2019 #26
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2019 #33
Well, it WAS about a T-shirt! Newest Reality Sep 2019 #7
I wann know what was on the T-shirt! progressoid Sep 2019 #40
The pistol is my shepherd. I shall not go unarmed. It maketh me ready to threaten your life. struggle4progress Sep 2019 #8
Very good gratuitous Sep 2019 #14
This is diamond level brilliance. Collimator Sep 2019 #48
you have done exceedingly fine! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #66
I love this line: Arkansas Granny Sep 2019 #9
I suspect that would disqualify a significant number of potential gun owners. cstanleytech Sep 2019 #43
Which would put a minor dent in gun sales Grokenstein Sep 2019 #51
So much for the kiss of peace. nt Skidmore Sep 2019 #10
All arguments between evangelicals should be settled with guns! Still In Wisconsin Sep 2019 #11
Worshippers clutching AR-15 rifles hold commitment ceremony keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #12
Yes, they need to be committed. lonely bird Sep 2019 #44
Obama was right (as usual) Grokenstein Sep 2019 #50
"praise the Lord and pass the ammunition" oasis Sep 2019 #76
That is the most West Virginia headline I've ever read. Aristus Sep 2019 #13
It does seem inline with the classic hillbilly-lore thing. Blue_true Sep 2019 #63
Guns for Christ! How christian! If "god works in mysterious ways" does not work RKP5637 Sep 2019 #17
Onward Christian Soldiers. Voltaire2 Sep 2019 #34
I'm not religious, but I went to church as a little kid. My father did it for RKP5637 Sep 2019 #54
As Per The Teachings Of GOPJesus smb Sep 2019 #18
It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion ... exboyfil Sep 2019 #19
What a shame HAB911 Sep 2019 #21
I guess bdamomma Sep 2019 #22
Just another good gal with a gun Lochloosa Sep 2019 #23
going gangsta...christofascist style Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #24
With All these Purdy New Guns--Let's Bring Back Dueling Stallion Sep 2019 #25
New meaning for "bury the hatchet" 33taw Sep 2019 #27
Why would you carry a gun that can accidently go off? wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #28
Lots of guns go off accidentally sarisataka Sep 2019 #39
Right wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #61
Another example of why we don't need guns...at the sign of any argument, guess what?! They run... SWBTATTReg Sep 2019 #29
hem. AllaN01Bear Sep 2019 #30
Got us feuding like the Hatfields and McCoys Quemado Sep 2019 #31
West Virginia, Pastors, Pastors' wives, and guns Botany Sep 2019 #35
Ooooo.....the Gauley! paleotn Sep 2019 #74
Almost in heaven, West Virginia... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #37
"Men and women of god". Well, Jesus H Christ WTF is wrong with people" is my first thought JDC Sep 2019 #38
pulled a gun. barbtries Sep 2019 #41
More of those good people with guns I keep hearing so much about. Initech Sep 2019 #47
"Turn the other cheek, while you draw your gun first." - American Bible Quotes TeamPooka Sep 2019 #49
Onward christian soldiers. /nt sdfernando Sep 2019 #52
Lucky no one was hurt treestar Sep 2019 #53
Not Florida? nycbos Sep 2019 #55
Not this time, sorry. But there is always tomorrow. Blue_true Sep 2019 #65
Are the pastors going to make them Ilsa Sep 2019 #56
Mahatma gandhi.... spanone Sep 2019 #60
25 To Life Apostolic Church? hatrack Sep 2019 #62
All I can say is BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #64
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!! Coventina Sep 2019 #67
hatchets are for losers; gimme mah gun! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #68
The problem is obvious.. Permanut Sep 2019 #69
Shall we gather at the parking lot......... Historic NY Sep 2019 #70
Federalist Society wants "originalist" interpretations of the Constitution Doc_Technical Sep 2019 #71
"Wives are to obey their husbands!" Grins Sep 2019 #72
I found a pic lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #73
I briefly had to drive through the panhandle of that state recently. NNadir Sep 2019 #75
God was protecting them both. He was warning them to change their ways. Midnight Writer Sep 2019 #77
Praise Chayssus, I'm gonna blow your brains out. lpbk2713 Sep 2019 #78
We need to bring prayer back to churches kwolf68 Sep 2019 #80

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
20. Yea, that's something the Talivangilists miss when they want Biblical Laws
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:17 PM
Sep 2019

It's bad enough when the Federalist Society wants "originalist" interpretations of the Constitution, the Religionistas want to follow the laws of Moses.

Very few of them manage to uphold more than 3 or 4 of the 10 Commandments and only the 2nd of the Amendments.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
4. When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:37 PM
Sep 2019
?w=737&f=9facaec6d048262dd3f72c9cf40f6a31

Nice hair, Gun Nut.

yellowdogintexas

(22,270 posts)
79. more like an overpermed mullet
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 12:03 AM
Sep 2019

all that short poufy bit at the top followed by about a mile of long perm

I'd hate like hell to have to deal with that mess on a daily basis

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
7. Well, it WAS about a T-shirt!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:39 PM
Sep 2019

Sounds important to me. Was it an NRA shirt? That would really be worth it, then.

Give me that old time religion!

struggle4progress

(118,350 posts)
8. The pistol is my shepherd. I shall not go unarmed. It maketh me ready to threaten your life.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:41 PM
Sep 2019

It leadeth me into the parking lot for shoot-outs. It reneweth my faith in the NRA. It leadeth me to buy ammunition. Yea, though I might meet people I dislike, I shall not converse cordially with them, for my pistol is with me. Its full magazine and trigger comfort me. It prepareth for me targets in the presence of my enemies. It arointeth my head in gunsmoke; my mouth runneth overtime. Surely ambulances and corpses shall follow me all the days of my life; and I will worship my firearms forever

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. Very good
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:49 PM
Sep 2019

All that wimpy talk of shepherds and still waters really needs to get butched up for the 21st century. Thank goodness one of these women had the foresight to be carrying so that this argument could have the potential to turn into murder. How else is anyone supposed to know the disagreement was serious?

Arkansas Granny

(31,531 posts)
9. I love this line:
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:41 PM
Sep 2019

"Melinda declined to speak to police after her arrest and requested an attorney instead, according to Willis, who added that a mental evaluation of her may be part of the investigation."

Maybe a mental evaluation should be in order before one gets a concealed weapon permit.

Grokenstein

(5,727 posts)
51. Which would put a minor dent in gun sales
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:21 PM
Sep 2019

...so we can't do that.
People need guns to protect themselves from people with guns!
Guns!
Guns guns guns guns guns!!

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
11. All arguments between evangelicals should be settled with guns!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:42 PM
Sep 2019

Just a little advanced warning would be nice in order to get innocent bystanders out of the area.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
13. That is the most West Virginia headline I've ever read.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:44 PM
Sep 2019

I assume a decades-long murderous feud is in the offing...

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
63. It does seem inline with the classic hillbilly-lore thing.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 10:04 PM
Sep 2019

Except the woman with the gun may have killed the other. Someone need to change churches.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
17. Guns for Christ! How christian! If "god works in mysterious ways" does not work
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:00 PM
Sep 2019

out for you, then use a gun, I guess. ... must be written someplace in their bibles.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
54. I'm not religious, but I went to church as a little kid. My father did it for
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:29 PM
Sep 2019

political reasons, looks good for a politician to attend church with the family. So, when I heard and sung "Onward Christian Soldiers," it was a total WTF to me. All this talk about love, kindness and everything else ... then they sang "Onward Christian Soldiers." And the KKK with their burning crosses and all. God outta one side of their mouth ... and hatred and murder out the other side. ... so totally F'ed up. As George Carlin would say, it's a club. Ha, and often a club to beat people with.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
19. It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion ...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:05 PM
Sep 2019

It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them ...

Former President Obama

In this case guns and religion.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
25. With All these Purdy New Guns--Let's Bring Back Dueling
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:49 PM
Sep 2019

hopefully take out the gun-nuts 1 or even better 2 at a time

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
29. Another example of why we don't need guns...at the sign of any argument, guess what?! They run...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:00 PM
Sep 2019

and grab the guns and start firing away. Disgusting. And these were supposedly Christian and church going people. Pathetic.

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
31. Got us feuding like the Hatfields and McCoys
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:19 PM
Sep 2019

Let's go to Luckenbach, Texas
With Waylon and Willie and the boys
This successful life we're livin'
Got us feuding like the Hatfields and McCoys

Botany

(70,585 posts)
35. West Virginia, Pastors, Pastors' wives, and guns
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:26 PM
Sep 2019

What could go wrong?

BTW I am going to Oak Hill, WV in a few weeks. I go through Oak Hill on my way to the Gauley River.

paleotn

(17,970 posts)
74. Ooooo.....the Gauley!
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 08:23 PM
Sep 2019

Beautiful river. Well beyond my capabilities. Think I'll stick to flat water.

JDC

(10,133 posts)
38. "Men and women of god". Well, Jesus H Christ WTF is wrong with people" is my first thought
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:39 PM
Sep 2019

So I guess they are speeding the word that way.

That last quote qualifies for understatement of the year.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
41. pulled a gun.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:44 PM
Sep 2019

in other news, a woman "accidentally" shot her daughter who was coming from school to surprise her with a visit.

i think some gun nuts just really want to shoot someone. accidental my ass. negligent at the very least.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
53. Lucky no one was hurt
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:25 PM
Sep 2019

Her own husband kept her from shooting the other woman, and could have been injured himself, since he was trying to wrestle the gun from her.

spanone

(135,880 posts)
60. Mahatma gandhi....
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:27 PM
Sep 2019

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,430 posts)
68. hatchets are for losers; gimme mah gun!
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 12:47 AM
Sep 2019

"Turn that other cheek this way, sweetie, and I'll pop a cap in that ass."

Doc_Technical

(3,527 posts)
71. Federalist Society wants "originalist" interpretations of the Constitution
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 01:25 PM
Sep 2019

Does this mean that the Second Amendment only applies
to muzzle loading, black powder firearms?

Grins

(7,231 posts)
72. "Wives are to obey their husbands!"
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 05:45 PM
Sep 2019

So why didn’t the pastor/husbands tell them what they were to do and end the argument...?

NNadir

(33,556 posts)
75. I briefly had to drive through the panhandle of that state recently.
Thu Sep 5, 2019, 11:21 PM
Sep 2019

I told my son we were not to get out of the car under and circumstances short of a severe accident. I made sure we went through in the late hours.

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