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What in the actual fuck: The President of the United States altered a National Hurricane Center map (Original Post) demmiblue Sep 2019 OP
omg Demovictory9 Sep 2019 #1
What you said. LOL. Vinca Sep 2019 #2
jaw-dropping! n/t MBS Sep 2019 #42
No its not. He's been doing shit like this his entire life. Nothing new... pangaia Sep 2019 #43
True! MBS Sep 2019 #49
Can you just imagine the panic that would have ensued Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2019 #84
People also would have been cancelling travel plans. I'm sure the tourism in Tanuki Sep 2019 #86
+ 1000 n/t MBS Sep 2019 #97
Any kindergartener can tell you Bob Loblaw Sep 2019 #94
Needy Amin can never be wrong gratuitous Sep 2019 #3
"Needy Amin" volstork Sep 2019 #22
I'm stealing Needy Amin! geardaddy Sep 2019 #34
It's been around for some time--and has been my go-to nickname for him for months now. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #44
+1! superpatriotman Sep 2019 #47
Ok, I love that! mcar Sep 2019 #58
Unfuckingbelievable malaise Sep 2019 #67
Holy shit. I thought that map didn't look right. n/t LuckyCharms Sep 2019 #4
Gotta like how the aide is, "I'm just gonna let the President hold this shit because I want nothing TeamPooka Sep 2019 #39
the diameter of the cone of uncertainty NEVER decreases lapfog_1 Sep 2019 #51
No! No he didn't! He couldn't!......... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2019 #5
Everyone said the same thing about his Inauguration crowd size too. BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #95
Oh, that light black line is sooo convincing against the official cone from NHC Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #6
That is the most pathetic thing about it. smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #102
Also, per the twitter comments, map is 5 days old. n/t LuckyCharms Sep 2019 #7
Jesus H. Christ on a trailer hitch... we have entered peak Idiocracy. demmiblue Sep 2019 #14
Oh, yes! Lol. Poor fellow. ALL the late-night hosts hit it. Hortensis Sep 2019 #15
I hope they all talk about this tonight. My god.... renate Sep 2019 #68
From 11am AST, Thur 29th Aug muriel_volestrangler Sep 2019 #59
SAD !! nt eppur_se_muova Sep 2019 #8
18 U.S. Code  2074. False weather reports King of the sheep Sep 2019 #9
What's the statute of limitations? RockRaven Sep 2019 #19
!!! Kali Sep 2019 #20
In the end, it'll be the Parks Department and the Weather Bureau that lead the rebellion. AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #57
Thanks for this! Welcome to DU! Tanuki Sep 2019 #89
Trump will never be prosecuted. Fucked up justice system. Lame congress. triron Sep 2019 #107
Ignorant . . . . Iliyah Sep 2019 #10
My question: forgotmylogin Sep 2019 #11
And I'll add: forgotmylogin Sep 2019 #63
He didn't even use a white Sharpie to match LuckyCharms Sep 2019 #12
I know he likes silver sharpies, too... he could of at least used one of those! demmiblue Sep 2019 #18
He wasn't embarrassed by what he had said at all. This is his way of emphasizing his prediction. Sogo Sep 2019 #27
He is so pathetic, it is impossible to put into words the degree... RockRaven Sep 2019 #13
We're dealing with a 3rd grade level intellect Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #16
Is this real? Green Line Sep 2019 #17
It is unless the video was altered. n/t LuckyCharms Sep 2019 #21
It appears so, unfortunately. yonder Sep 2019 #26
The dumb ass couldn't even be bothered to have someone photoshop LuckyCharms Sep 2019 #23
No words. cwydro Sep 2019 #24
He's very insecure. That is obvious. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2019 #83
18 U.S. Code 2074. False weather reports brooklynite Sep 2019 #25
This is what the media should be talking about. StevieM Sep 2019 #93
Republican lies are legion Champp Sep 2019 #28
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Sep 2019 #29
Someone did it for him. He doesn't know where the States are. dem4decades Sep 2019 #30
Pictures. Lots of pictures. And crayons. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2019 #31
the dumb sumbitch doesn't know the difference between Alabama and Georgia. Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #32
he didn't extend it fur enuf, we all here in okielahoma were stocking up on ammo, just in case. n/t 5X Sep 2019 #33
😂 Duppers Sep 2019 #55
But do you have enough nukes? mnhtnbb Sep 2019 #76
they ran out at wally world, 5X Sep 2019 #77
Best meteorologist ever! BHDem53 Sep 2019 #35
reason to impeach #306, so, what's the hold up? nt yaesu Sep 2019 #36
And the tool sitting next to him just lost all credibility by default. littlemissmartypants Sep 2019 #37
This is beyond absurd BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #38
A 4 year old would be embarrassed about such a pathetic attempt to save face. The Genealogist Sep 2019 #40
Another count of impeachment. Marcuse Sep 2019 #41
Trump takes pride in doctoring the truth and blaming others for "fake news" bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #45
Good gawd. Glimmer of Hope Sep 2019 #46
Was President Twitter Tantrum planning to send Alabama federal aid rocktivity Sep 2019 #48
Time for the 25th Amendment. Straight jacket / Rubber Room spanone Sep 2019 #50
He committed another crime. What's new and who's left that has enough balls to do anything about it? woodsprite Sep 2019 #52
trump has never taken responsibility liberal N proud Sep 2019 #53
Stalinesque Hekate Sep 2019 #54
Poor dummy. Who does he think he's fooling with that bullshit, altered map? brush Sep 2019 #56
His dummy lemmings n/t moonscape Sep 2019 #78
"with a sharpie to" - I guess they took away his crayons. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #60
The traitor-tot loves sharpies. forgotmylogin Sep 2019 #70
". . .stupidest act of narcissism to date. . ." - Rep Don Beyer, D(VA) DinahMoeHum Sep 2019 #61
Imagine faking scientific information about a matter of life and death malaise Sep 2019 #62
This is actually incredibly serious renate Sep 2019 #64
Seems appropriate BruceWane Sep 2019 #65
pretty sure he was trying to draw a penis jcgoldie Sep 2019 #66
The competition is fierce but we may have just witnessed Trump's stupidest act of narcissism to date Duppers Sep 2019 #69
Every Day, Trump Finds a Way to Embarrass & Humiliate the US with his Vast Ignorance dlk Sep 2019 #71
like i have said before.... throwthe_shoe Sep 2019 #72
Here's spaghetti models from August 26th: Ilsa Sep 2019 #73
Holy crap! karin_sj Sep 2019 #74
There is nothing he won't lie about amuse bouche Sep 2019 #75
Dennis! Maggiemayhem Sep 2019 #79
Yet another action for which he ought to be imprisoned for life. Paladin Sep 2019 #80
tRump and a crayon... that about says it all. Joe941 Sep 2019 #81
This is disturbing on so many levels. royable Sep 2019 #82
OK, here's what I don't get. LudwigPastorius Sep 2019 #85
They did. Ms. Toad Sep 2019 #105
Well, at least he didn't use crayons to draw procon Sep 2019 #87
Trump orders all new dictionaries to include the word "covfefe" klook Sep 2019 #88
He can't keep up with all his own lies at this point. Pathetic. Evolve Dammit Sep 2019 #90
Smarter than the meteorologists.... czarjak Sep 2019 #91
A politician who can't admit when he's wrong is no kind of a leader. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #92
Trump has used an altered map, and given us proof that he should be impeached. Stuart G Sep 2019 #96
Didn't Dylan cover this? Midnightwalk Sep 2019 #98
Tell us again how you've never heard of a Cat. 5 hurricane, Dr. Science! Blue Owl Sep 2019 #99
Photoshop idea: change FL to AL Duppers Sep 2019 #100
From his actual briefing Historic NY Sep 2019 #101
Check this link. No sharpie line drawn in map photo from briefing. philly_bob Sep 2019 #103
Infantile colsohlibgal Sep 2019 #104
Drinking game: Shot for each time you say... In It to Win It Sep 2019 #106

MBS

(9,688 posts)
49. True!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:51 PM
Sep 2019

But I found this one particularly pathetic in the amateurishness of his attempt to change publicly confirmed facts. (yes, on second thought, the letter he wrote for his own doctor extolling his fabulous health was up there).

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
84. Can you just imagine the panic that would have ensued
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:09 PM
Sep 2019

in Alabama, IF the NWS had NOT come out and invalidated his reckless announcement ?

I've lived through three hurricanes (FL, TX and FL, again), and once the word is out, people flock to the stores and empty the shelves, race to the gas stations and fill up the cars or high-tail it out of town to safer places. The stampede of panicked, frightened people is dangerous.

His paralyzing stupidity and ruinous ego could have caused an unnecessary crisis and untold damage. But instead of saying that he was mistaken, he doubled down on his completely irresponsible comments.

WHEN DOES THE LINE IN THE SAND GET CROSSED ???

Do people have to fucking DIE for this walking hazmat to be removed ?

Tanuki

(14,921 posts)
86. People also would have been cancelling travel plans. I'm sure the tourism in
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:15 PM
Sep 2019

Orange Beach, Gulf Shores, and other Alabama vacation destinations would have been adversely affected by this totally stupid false alarm, especially over Labor Day weekend.

TeamPooka

(24,256 posts)
39. Gotta like how the aide is, "I'm just gonna let the President hold this shit because I want nothing
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:38 PM
Sep 2019

to do with this."
Sits back down and watches Trump hold the sign himself awkwardly....
LOL

lapfog_1

(29,226 posts)
51. the diameter of the cone of uncertainty NEVER decreases
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:57 PM
Sep 2019

with possible future projections.

Never mind the obvious sharpie drawing

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
95. Everyone said the same thing about his Inauguration crowd size too.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:31 PM
Sep 2019

He apparently is still acting like a three years old who thinks he is cleverly fooling the adults in his life. He certainly is not learning how to cover up his stupidity any better, is he?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
102. That is the most pathetic thing about it.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 07:58 PM
Sep 2019

It's so damn obvious! Who does he think he's fooling? He is such a fucking idiot!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Oh, yes! Lol. Poor fellow. ALL the late-night hosts hit it.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:41 PM
Sep 2019

So of course he has a duty to correct them.

renate

(13,776 posts)
68. I hope they all talk about this tonight. My god....
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:24 PM
Sep 2019

This is so in-your-face nuts and totally indefensible. It's the kind of petty, stupid, childish action--not political, not debatable, there are no two sides about this--that even people who aren't interested in politics would realize is pathetic.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,365 posts)
59. From 11am AST, Thur 29th Aug
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:16 PM
Sep 2019

Here's that forecast: https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/al05/al052019.fstadv.021.shtml?

The last item on it is

OUTLOOK VALID 03/1200Z 28.1N 81.5W...INLAND
MAX WIND 65 KT...GUSTS 80 KT.

That's just south of Orlando, the last point on the diagram the Brat scrawled over. Once a hurricane is inland, its winds decrease (the forecast for 1200 on the 2nd, ie 24 hours earlier, was max sustained winds 115 kts - then, it would have been about 30 miles off Vero Beach). So even if it had got to the closest point to Alabama on the real chart, it would have lost a lot more power (below 64 knots and it stops being called a hurricane). And still wouldn't have reached Alabama.

What we have here is a spoiled child who can't admit he's a dumbass who failed at his basic job of understanding briefings, and passing on information to the public, so he's now trying to alter history to get an excuse. It's pathetic. He's said "get me the diagram where it was closest to Alabama", then "yeah, but what if it went further???? Huh???? Yeah, they didn't think of that", grabbed a sharpie, made up his own pathetic mushroom-shaped extension, said "see? That's huge. That's what women tell me..." and decided to embarrass the USA by showing his stupid drawing on national TV like a 5 year old bringing home what they did in kindergarten.

Just imagine the lack of self-respect his flunkies now have.

9. 18 U.S. Code  2074. False weather reports
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:38 PM
Sep 2019
“Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(G), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)”


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2074

RockRaven

(15,003 posts)
19. What's the statute of limitations?
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:43 PM
Sep 2019

I want to see this asshole prosecuted for this after he leaves office. It's actually dangerous/harmful to bullshit the way Shitler does.

Kali

(55,020 posts)
20. !!!
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:43 PM
Sep 2019

Wouldn't it be cool if we could take him down with this?!

Like the murdering criminal gangsters it get taken down because of some tax code violation

forgotmylogin

(7,531 posts)
63. And I'll add:
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:20 PM
Sep 2019
Weather is inherently prediction. It's okay to be wrong. Get off my TV screen traitor-tot and go do something important like donkey-punching Mitch McConnell.

Sogo

(4,993 posts)
27. He wasn't embarrassed by what he had said at all. This is his way of emphasizing his prediction.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:56 PM
Sep 2019

"I'm smarter than ALL the meteorologists."

RockRaven

(15,003 posts)
13. He is so pathetic, it is impossible to put into words the degree...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:40 PM
Sep 2019

Imagine, if you can, going to such embarrassing lengths to avoid WHAT EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS and just admitting you misspoke. How utterly degrading of oneself, and done with a great deal of forethought and yet such terribly oafish execution.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
16. We're dealing with a 3rd grade level intellect
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:41 PM
Sep 2019

My word, this is a joke. The leader of our country used a Sharpie to alter a map so he cold claim he was right.

yonder

(9,676 posts)
26. It appears so, unfortunately.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:55 PM
Sep 2019

And he couldn't even get his own fat ass out of the chair to fetch the lie himself.

brooklynite

(94,738 posts)
25. 18 U.S. Code 2074. False weather reports
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:52 PM
Sep 2019

Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(G), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

5X

(3,972 posts)
33. he didn't extend it fur enuf, we all here in okielahoma were stocking up on ammo, just in case. n/t
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:11 PM
Sep 2019

littlemissmartypants

(22,813 posts)
37. And the tool sitting next to him just lost all credibility by default.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:34 PM
Sep 2019

He's guilty by association and our "acting" Homeland Security Director Kevin Kealoha McAleenan. He clearly has been neutered.

Good luck getting your manhood back Kev.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_McAleenan

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
40. A 4 year old would be embarrassed about such a pathetic attempt to save face.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:40 PM
Sep 2019

Literally, this is something a young child would do, while knowing it was wrong and a poor attempt to cover up their error. I'm sure all the bobble heads over at FAUX just gushed over it. And damn, is hat the extent of his ability to draw?

bucolic_frolic

(43,296 posts)
45. Trump takes pride in doctoring the truth and blaming others for "fake news"
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:47 PM
Sep 2019

He's been consistent. This is a war for credibility. Typical of corporate guy. The biggest liar is always accusing others of lying.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
48. Was President Twitter Tantrum planning to send Alabama federal aid
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:50 PM
Sep 2019

that they really don't qualify for?


rocktivity

woodsprite

(11,927 posts)
52. He committed another crime. What's new and who's left that has enough balls to do anything about it?
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:00 PM
Sep 2019

Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2074

brush

(53,871 posts)
56. Poor dummy. Who does he think he's fooling with that bullshit, altered map?
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:13 PM
Sep 2019

This imposter president's shit show gets more ridiculous everyday.

Poor us.

forgotmylogin

(7,531 posts)
70. The traitor-tot loves sharpies.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:26 PM
Sep 2019

He regularly signs his name with markers because he likes his strokes to have weight and heft.

He also doesn't like to write, but has no problem marking up others work, and the broad line of a sharpie marker makes his pithy comments stand out. Thickest line on the page, and probably in history! Also, in his mind I'm sure, marking a document like a teacher basically serves to jump in front of any potential significance it has like a picket line in front of a store.

Trump’s love affair with the Sharpie began long before his ambition to be in the White House. Before he became president he would often scrawl across newspaper articles as a way of communicating. For example, in 1999, he sent Rudy Giuliani a New York Times interview with himself. Scrawled across the print copy, which included praise for Giuliani, was Trump’s Sharpie addition: “Rudy, you’re the greatest, see you soon”.

Graydon Carter, the editor of Vanity Fair, once memorably described Trump as a in a piece published more than three decades ago. He wrote in 2015 that ever since Trump had sent him photos of himself and “on all of them he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/18/donald-trump-marker-pen-sharpie-russia-putin-scandal


'Make it look rich': Trump told Sharpie to create a custom pen for him to sign important documents
businessinsider.com/trump-...

DinahMoeHum

(21,809 posts)
61. ". . .stupidest act of narcissism to date. . ." - Rep Don Beyer, D(VA)
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:19 PM
Sep 2019


The competition is fierce but we may have just witnessed Trump's stupidest act of narcissism to date.

I hope national and regional weather professionals will be able to correct the disinformation coming from the President of the United States before it does too much harm.


malaise

(269,177 posts)
62. Imagine faking scientific information about a matter of life and death
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:19 PM
Sep 2019

to cover your lying bullshit.
If this isn't grounds for impeachment I give up

renate

(13,776 posts)
64. This is actually incredibly serious
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:21 PM
Sep 2019

The President of the United States

Let's say that again:

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, the second most powerful man in the world, is not even trying to hide the fact that he is brazenly lying in front of the entire world in order to cover up a tiny (relatively speaking) mistake he made in a damn tweet.

This isn't funny. It's pathetic, but it's not funny. His illness is on full display and absolutely undeniable, he could and would start a war to save face if he felt he needed to (maybe to cover up his tweeting of that top secret picture from Iran), and the GOP is pretending everything is fine.

BruceWane

(345 posts)
65. Seems appropriate
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:21 PM
Sep 2019

Reminds me of a first grader changing an "F" to an "A".

With the wrong color pen.

So, yeah, not really surprised.

Duppers

(28,127 posts)
69. The competition is fierce but we may have just witnessed Trump's stupidest act of narcissism to date
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:26 PM
Sep 2019

"The competition is fierce but we may have just witnessed Trump's stupidest act of narcissism to date."

Rep. Don Beyer (D-VA) nailed President Donald Trump for his desperate attempt to avoid the humiliation of not knowing which state was Alabama.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/stupidest-act-of-narcissism-to-date-congressman-nails-trump-for-desperate-hurricane-dorian-map/

dlk

(11,578 posts)
71. Every Day, Trump Finds a Way to Embarrass & Humiliate the US with his Vast Ignorance
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:33 PM
Sep 2019

It’s a gift.

 

throwthe_shoe

(26 posts)
72. like i have said before....
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 04:37 PM
Sep 2019

to call this shit pile a moron would lower the bar for a real moron... he should stick that sharpie up his ass

Paladin

(28,273 posts)
80. Yet another action for which he ought to be imprisoned for life.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:04 PM
Sep 2019

It's getting to be a very long list.

LudwigPastorius

(9,177 posts)
85. OK, here's what I don't get.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:13 PM
Sep 2019

Why did not ONE of those fucking reporters in the room ask out loud, hey, what's that big black line over Alabama that someone obviously drew on the map?

I don't care if it's rude to interrupt the president. I don't care that your White House press pass might get revoked.

Blatant, vain, idiotic mendacity of this type MUST be called out, or you lose the right to call yourself a reporter, journalist, or correspondent forever.

Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
96. Trump has used an altered map, and given us proof that he should be impeached.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:38 PM
Sep 2019

If this is true, (a number of sources have reported this) then Trump has impeached himself.
Here is proof that he is not capable of holding this job. If word gets out that he drew the black line, or ordered it to be drawn, then it is clear to everyone, even Republicans, what the truth is. While it isn't the biggest deal, it is the proof that is needed, that Trump is not telling the truth about something very important...
...Yes, impeachable offense to present a map that lies and is altered about where the hurricane is headed.

Lying about something this important, is impeachable offense. Now what we need is proof that Trump ordered it. When that comes out, he is done.

Duppers

(28,127 posts)
100. Photoshop idea: change FL to AL
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 06:27 PM
Sep 2019

Would he even know the difference?
He can't find anything on a map anyway.

philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
103. Check this link. No sharpie line drawn in map photo from briefing.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:01 PM
Sep 2019

In other words, there either was no sharpie line on one chart -- or, in a third level of duplicity, they replaced the altered map with the real map on the whitehouse.gov website.

[link:https://imgur.com/a/800igez|

He thinks we are idiots!

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
104. Infantile
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 10:29 PM
Sep 2019

This is like a 2nd grader changing his report card thinking her/his parents won’t notice. Then when they do notice lie about it.

My guess is this map fudging will never be pointed out on Fox “News”.

Would love to see this lying cheating criminal hauled off to Prison the minute Liz or Joe or Kamala take office. Not only is he a crook and serial liar he is terminally unlikeable, a waste of space and oxygen.

In It to Win It

(8,285 posts)
106. Drinking game: Shot for each time you say...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:08 PM
Sep 2019

"What in the actual fuck" during the Trump presidency from this day going forward.

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