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Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:01 AM Sep 2019

Please give the... "Whistleblower Story" a chance to become well known.

...Today is Thursday...Maybe by the weekend most people will have heard about this one. People will talk about it, and consider, "Is it as important as we think it is?"...people will think and question. What could Trump have said that a Whistleblower would risk doing this? This became news yesterday evening . This could be the "major event" or there could be another story more important. Time will tell.
...What will Trump do or say about this?..That could be very important in understanding this. As of now, Thursday morning 9:05 AM ET, Trump has said nothing.

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Please give the... "Whistleblower Story" a chance to become well known. (Original Post) Stuart G Sep 2019 OP
Good point-- the DNI and Trump resisting will help keep it in the news. dawg day Sep 2019 #1
Yes, I think you are right on that. Not tweeting on that is an indication of something. Stuart G Sep 2019 #3
Trump often *doesn't* know what he has said. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #37
I agree. His use of his tweet machine is 42bambi Sep 2019 #5
I hope he's watching sad people cleaning out their desks. JohnnyRingo Sep 2019 #18
I've been wondering if the Democrats should go for broke on this story. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #2
Intel Cmte Chair Schiff is calling the acting DNI in for questioning bigbrother05 Sep 2019 #7
Any reason to think answers will be complete, transparent, unlimited, and useful? nt wiggs Sep 2019 #11
Schiff is the right man to hold this session. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #20
really think he will even show up? pangaia Sep 2019 #21
If you want to get on the wingnut welfare circuit, showing contempt to a Democratic tblue37 Sep 2019 #38
Schiff can get Contempt of Congress only with a vote by both houses. One of them won't do it. ancianita Sep 2019 #32
Spreading it on other sites and FB blm Sep 2019 #4
all of us must make effort to keep FB free of any news AlexSFCA Sep 2019 #6
I don't find that approach to be valid. It would be surrendering FB space blm Sep 2019 #10
Me, neither. I get a lot of likes from people who comment on MJ, tech companies, legal orgs, etc. ancianita Sep 2019 #33
I will not be silenced h2ebits Sep 2019 #13
Yes, this could be the tape on the door (analogy to Watergate) or reveal of the Oval Office tapes.nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #8
The number one reason i believe it's bad is bluestarone Sep 2019 #9
Maybe it will make a ding, but the public has become numb to the corruption. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #12
"public has become numb to the corruption." pangaia Sep 2019 #22
Now you KNOW we are going to bomb Iran James48 Sep 2019 #14
Trump's STILL restrained and protective in his tweets Hortensis Sep 2019 #15
This may be a vital piece to the puzzle that pushes House Dems to action bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #16
He'll say it's a Deep State coup. JohnnyRingo Sep 2019 #17
people won't think or do anything.............. sheeple.. pangaia Sep 2019 #19
Is this headlining on the MSM? Wednesdays Sep 2019 #23
Get ready for another big diversion sometime in the KPN Sep 2019 #24
Watch how the GOP responds. GusBob Sep 2019 #25
He did finally tweet this morning bsiebs Sep 2019 #26
I saw this a few minutes ago..It does not look like his normal word usage or writing. Stuart G Sep 2019 #30
Yep, not his style at all. greymattermom Sep 2019 #36
Liar. If someone (or multiple someones) thought that you crossed the line, you can bet that you... SWBTATTReg Sep 2019 #31
yes, someone is dumb enough Skittles Sep 2019 #34
You got it. This isn't going away if only because it's a mystery the public will want to see solved. emmaverybo Sep 2019 #27
I'll definitely be ranting about it thomhartmann Sep 2019 #28
Treat it like - Who shot J.R.? lame54 Sep 2019 #29
So if Rudy Giuliani is involved, greymattermom Sep 2019 #35

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
1. Good point-- the DNI and Trump resisting will help keep it in the news.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:06 AM
Sep 2019

Trump isn't even tweeting about it... must be scared! I hope!

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
3. Yes, I think you are right on that. Not tweeting on that is an indication of something.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:12 AM
Sep 2019

He is scared or not sure what to do and waiting for advise on what to do. Perhaps this is the very last thing that he expected, because he thought the conversation that he had was totally private and protected. Time will tell, this story is new. We will all see one way or another. Further, if what was said to someone was, "illegal and totally wrong for him to do, then he has a much greater problem then what to "tweet today." Trump knows what he said, and we don't. But, at some point we will probably find out..

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JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
18. I hope he's watching sad people cleaning out their desks.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:45 AM
Sep 2019

Maybe now he knows how the GM workers felt at Lordstown.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. I've been wondering if the Democrats should go for broke on this story.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:12 AM
Sep 2019

It sounds enormous. Maybe all of our top Committee people should temporarily put other matters on hold and make this into a huge story, push it, talk only about this one story, hold press conferences, make appearances. If Wolf Blitzer wants to talk about something else, to hell with it, talk about THIS story.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
7. Intel Cmte Chair Schiff is calling the acting DNI in for questioning
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:45 AM
Sep 2019

There will be a closed session before the open hearing. Stonewalling the Gang of 8 is not a good way to start a new job.

Also, Contempt of Congress doesn't look good on a resume.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
20. Schiff is the right man to hold this session.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:51 AM
Sep 2019

Even if the acting DNI stonewalls, he can hold a news conference and blow this thing up.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
21. really think he will even show up?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:52 AM
Sep 2019

They are THE ENEMY !!

"Also, Contempt of Congress doesn't look good on a resume.'


On, come on big brother05!!

You must have chosen that name for SOME reason...surely you know what is going on...

tblue37

(65,403 posts)
38. If you want to get on the wingnut welfare circuit, showing contempt to a Democratic
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:24 AM
Sep 2019

congress is resume gold.

ancianita

(36,066 posts)
32. Schiff can get Contempt of Congress only with a vote by both houses. One of them won't do it.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:29 PM
Sep 2019

Guess which adversaries will tout a contempt effort as just another impotent declaration.

Loyalists of this admin think Congress' claims alter their power so little that they don't have to care about resumes.

I know Schiff's doing a brilliant job. Regardless, it will still be up to Congress and courts to rule rule when time is of the essence (allegedly). I see no movement in the courts.

The FBI's time to enforce appears to be over. Congress and the courts can't call on them.

Without enforcement power, Schiff's efforts won't be timely enough, or sold powerfully enough to matter to a seemingly disengaged or discouraged public. No amount of evidence and outrage -- talk of contempt, or court rulings -- enforces the law.

Structurally, there's no enforcement entity other than the DOJ.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
6. all of us must make effort to keep FB free of any news
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:45 AM
Sep 2019

it is family/friends sharing service. After the election I shared some news with a link and got schooled by a friend (rightfully so): “I don’t get my news from FB”. And no one should but we must help stop spreading news through facebook in the first place. I assume all news on FB is fake news, and many other folks do. So if you post something important on FB, it may become fake news in the eyes of those who read it.

blm

(113,064 posts)
10. I don't find that approach to be valid. It would be surrendering FB space
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:48 AM
Sep 2019

To the Trumps and Putin’s of the world.

ancianita

(36,066 posts)
33. Me, neither. I get a lot of likes from people who comment on MJ, tech companies, legal orgs, etc.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:30 PM
Sep 2019

h2ebits

(644 posts)
13. I will not be silenced
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:02 AM
Sep 2019

I use FB to spread news all of the time. It is the only thing that I use FB for and I post everything public. My "FB friends" are free to "unfriend" me but appreciate getting the information that I post.

bluestarone

(16,972 posts)
9. The number one reason i believe it's bad is
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:47 AM
Sep 2019

tRUMP isn't TWEETING!! We ALL know that's not like him! When we get the full story, i can only hope it DESTROYS ALL the RETHUGS!!

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
12. Maybe it will make a ding, but the public has become numb to the corruption.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:00 AM
Sep 2019

I am getting to the point where we make a pact with the Democrstic leadership:

"You start official impeachment hearings and hammer on all the klowns LOUDLY AND REPEATEDLY AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS, and we the people will start MASSIVE campaigning to re-elect you in 2020... and herald in a Dem majority in every pocket of this nation we can."

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
22. "public has become numb to the corruption."
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:54 AM
Sep 2019

YOU said it... plus numb to everything....

dumb
lazy
ignorant
asleep

James48

(4,436 posts)
14. Now you KNOW we are going to bomb Iran
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:10 AM
Sep 2019

Just to deflect attention off the Whistleblower story.

Maybe even nuke something inside Iran with a small nuke, just to squelch the “promise” story.

Watch.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Trump's STILL restrained and protective in his tweets
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:16 AM
Sep 2019

this morning, which we tend to see when he's feeling threatened.

bucolic_frolic

(43,176 posts)
16. This may be a vital piece to the puzzle that pushes House Dems to action
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:38 AM
Sep 2019

the IC informs Congress, maybe this has been in the works for awhile

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
17. He'll say it's a Deep State coup.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:39 AM
Sep 2019

I hate to be a cynic, but Fox News will be right there with him. This is just another IQ test for the population at large.

It depends on how toxic the revelations are.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
25. Watch how the GOP responds.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:22 AM
Sep 2019

No one will call him out publically

But there will be a rash of "behind the scenes off the record" folks in the GOP and WH are sweating bullets

bsiebs

(688 posts)
26. He did finally tweet this morning
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:55 AM
Sep 2019

He did finally tweet this morning..... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump


Donald J. Trump
?Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Another Fake News story out there - It never ends! Virtually anytime I speak on the phone to a foreign leader, I understand that there may be many people listening from various U.S. agencies, not to mention those from the other country itself. No problem!


Donald J. Trump
?Verified account @realDonaldTrump

....Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially “heavily populated” call. I would only do what is right anyway, and only do good for the USA!

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
30. I saw this a few minutes ago..It does not look like his normal word usage or writing.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:58 AM
Sep 2019

..Almost as if someone helped him write his response in the above sentences.

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
31. Liar. If someone (or multiple someones) thought that you crossed the line, you can bet that you...
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 01:38 PM
Sep 2019

crossed the line. What did you promise, you lying sack of crap?

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
35. So if Rudy Giuliani is involved,
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:46 AM
Sep 2019

he's a private citizen and presumably can be arrested. Trump will say he's never met him, and Rudy will sing.

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