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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:39 AM Sep 2019

Disputing Trump claims, Japan says no evidence Iran was behind Saudi attack






Disputing Trump claims, Japan says no evidence Iran was behind Saudi attack

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/disputing-trump-claims-japan-says-no-evidence-iran-was-behind-saudi-attack/





on September 18, 2019



“We are not aware of any information that points to Iran,” said Japanese defense minister Taro Kono.

Japanese Defense Minister Taro Kono told reporters Wednesday that he has not seen any intelligence indicating Iran was behind the attacks on Saudi Arabian oil facilities over the weekend, contradicting Saudi and Trump administration claims about the incident.

“We are not aware of any information that points to Iran,” Kono said during a press briefing. “We believe the Houthis carried out the attack based on the statement claiming responsibility.”

The only evidence the Trump administration has released to substantiate its claim of Iranian responsibility are satellite photos that experts said are not clear enough to assign blame. Ret. Gen. Mark Hertling, a CNN intelligence analyst, said the images “really don’t show anything, other than pretty good accuracy on the strike of the oil tanks.”............................



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“Up to now France doesn’t have proof permitting it to say that these drones came from such and such a place, and I don’t know if anyone has proof,” said Le Drian. “We need a strategy of de-escalation for the area, and any move that goes against this de-escalation would be a bad move for the situation in the region.”





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Disputing Trump claims, Japan says no evidence Iran was behind Saudi attack (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2019 OP
100% tariffs on Japan next week. dalton99a Sep 2019 #1
France has said the same thing. They have a team of octoberlib Sep 2019 #2
Japan is dependent on Iranian oil. former9thward Sep 2019 #3
No, but drones are not beyond the capabilities of Iran's Houthi allies. Eugene Sep 2019 #5
Iran would have supplied the drones to the Houthi. former9thward Sep 2019 #7
Really?? retread Sep 2019 #10
Thank you for making my point. former9thward Sep 2019 #11
MBS blows up oil facilities, TrumPutin attacks Iran Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #8
Russia is Iran's main ally. former9thward Sep 2019 #13
not mixing anything Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #15
Duh! malaise Sep 2019 #4
Tin foil hat time Bayard Sep 2019 #6
sure getting them back online in a hurry, eh? Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #9
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Sep 2019 #12
I doubt Japan has many intelligence assets in the Persian Gulf so not surprising.... EX500rider Sep 2019 #14

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
2. France has said the same thing. They have a team of
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:55 AM
Sep 2019

inspectors on the way to Saudi Arabia to see for themselves.

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
3. Japan is dependent on Iranian oil.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:14 AM
Sep 2019

As well as oil from Iran's main ally Russia. Does Japan think the Saudis blew up their own oil facilities?

Eugene

(61,900 posts)
5. No, but drones are not beyond the capabilities of Iran's Houthi allies.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:49 AM
Sep 2019

Striking Saudi targets is happens on days that end with Y, but they never scored this big before.

Also, now that the UAE and the Saudis have turn against each other, Iran and the Houthis aren't the only hostile actors anymore.

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
7. Iran would have supplied the drones to the Houthi.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 01:58 PM
Sep 2019

You don't get to supply arms to one side in a conflict and then say "They did what with them? We never thought that would happen!"

retread

(3,762 posts)
10. Really??
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:11 PM
Sep 2019

"According to the latest figures available from the Congressional Research Service, the United States was credited with more than half the value of all global arms transfer agreements in 2014, the most recent year for which full statistics are available."

“There is a US imprint on every civilian death inside Yemen, which is radicalizing the people of Yemen against the United States, There really is no way this bombing campaign could happen without United States participation…And this Congress has not debated this engagement.” Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.)

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
11. Thank you for making my point.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:22 PM
Sep 2019

Yes, opposition groups in many countries hate us and wish us harm for our weapons sales. If you arm an enemy then you are the enemy also. It completely applies in the Saudi Iran conflict.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
8. MBS blows up oil facilities, TrumPutin attacks Iran
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:05 PM
Sep 2019

Sounds as reasonable as anything else the fool in our WH has done.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
15. not mixing anything
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 10:29 PM
Sep 2019

Dirty Donnie is loyal to himself, self aggrandizement, money, and power.

Until we know what the whistleblower knows, it's a Schrodinger's bag of conspiracies containing all the bad actor foreign heads of state. We certainly can't take this regime's version of the facts as credible.

Bayard

(22,099 posts)
6. Tin foil hat time
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 11:14 AM
Sep 2019

I wouldn't be surprised if Saudi torched their own facilities to push a war on Iran. All they have to do is whisper in tRump's ear.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
9. sure getting them back online in a hurry, eh?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:06 PM
Sep 2019

Trouble with the TrumPutin regime is that they have zero credibility about everything.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
14. I doubt Japan has many intelligence assets in the Persian Gulf so not surprising....
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:26 PM
Sep 2019

....I doubt the the island nation of Tonga has any proof either.

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