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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:59 PM Sep 2019

WaPo: Yes, there is something the House can do to punish Trump right now

Yes, there is something the House can do to punish Trump right now

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/21/yes-there-is-something-house-can-do-punish-trump-right-now/

Many Democrats have made the case that this is impeachable behavior on Trump’s part. Many others — including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) — point out that impeaching Trump would be a futile gesture, because the Republican-led Senate would never vote to remove him from office. Those who are resisting impeachment also raise a valid concern that, whatever the merits, the backlash over a drawn-out impeachment proceeding could actually help Trump win a second term.

This argument will continue, with new fuel being added by the administration’s refusal to turn over a whistleblower’s complaint regarding the Trump-Zelensky conversation. It is hard to see how it could possibly be resolved before we are well into the 2020 campaign season. But there is something the House could do right now, an idea that I have raised before: censure the president.

The procedure for doing so is pretty straightforward, as spelled out in a recent report by the Congressional Research Service:

Should a House committee report a non-Member censure resolution, the full House may consider it by unanimous consent, under the Suspension of the Rules procedure, or under the terms of a special rule reported by the Committee on Rules and adopted by the House. 17 If widespread support exists for the censure resolution, unanimous consent or the Suspension of the Rules procedure may be used. Otherwise, the resolution could be brought to the floor under a special rule reported by the Committee on Rules. All three of these parliamentary mechanisms require, at a minimum, the support of the majority party leadership in order to be entertained.


In other words, a censure resolution could be brought to the House floor with support from Democrats alone, and it would not require any action on the part of the Senate.
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WaPo: Yes, there is something the House can do to punish Trump right now (Original Post) Miles Archer Sep 2019 OP
Its a start!! and Trump would be pissed to say the least! riversedge Sep 2019 #1
It's better than nothing, and it bypasses the Senate Miles Archer Sep 2019 #2
Except it isn't a start... it's an end FBaggins Sep 2019 #3
Resolutions to Censure the President - Procedure and History PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #4
didn't the House just do this recently? dweller Sep 2019 #5
Non! Mme. Defarge Sep 2019 #6
Im pretty sure Pelosi has already shot down the idea standingtall Sep 2019 #7
Weak sauce. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #8
+1, like Trump gives a damn what anybody thinks about him uponit7771 Sep 2019 #9
Pathetic. Feeds the CON narrative that libs are weak and "owned" slumcamper Sep 2019 #13
If not by unanimous consent bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #10
As election time gets closer lunatica Sep 2019 #11
It's something like saying tavernier Sep 2019 #12
Just read this. ismnotwasm Sep 2019 #14

FBaggins

(26,742 posts)
3. Except it isn't a start... it's an end
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 02:10 PM
Sep 2019

I’d say the chances are good... but a censure vote comes at the end of an investigation and effectively closes it out.

dweller

(23,634 posts)
5. didn't the House just do this recently?
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 02:14 PM
Sep 2019

i can't remember exactly, so much info political and
personal coming at me 24/7... i'm in info overload...

✌🏼

Mme. Defarge

(8,033 posts)
6. Non!
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 02:20 PM
Sep 2019

That reminds me of a clever little device a French entertainer tried to use with me when I was much younger and cuter. He taught me to say, “Tu n’auras pas dû.” Translation: You shouldn’t have done that. Then, whenever he tried to do something naughty I could just say, “Tu n’auras pas dû” and we were both off the hook.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
8. Weak sauce.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 03:31 PM
Sep 2019

It has no effect and it won't do anything to stop Trump's criminality and corruption. It might just embolden him even more because it has no effect.

bucolic_frolic

(43,168 posts)
10. If not by unanimous consent
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 04:12 PM
Sep 2019

House Republicans could go on record defending Trump, if they don't have bone spurs for the day.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
11. As election time gets closer
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 04:21 PM
Sep 2019

and the Senators start to see clearly that they’re going to lose their majority, many will be quite willing to do something about Trump.

Never underestimate the greed for power or self interest. They don’t have the conviction of their duties to this country. They have the convictions of thieves and liars. As soon as they sniff their own downfall their tune will change.

tavernier

(12,389 posts)
12. It's something like saying
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 04:54 PM
Sep 2019

I spit on your shoe.

These people can’t be shamed because they thrive on it.

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