or just another hater/ 1%er thats getting too old to make a point?

It was either brilliant, misinterpreted or just plain sad.

if you think about it- they throw out all this crazy crap and then win-they can declare they have been given a mandate by the people and come down hard in a lot of areas right away

That's a terrifying thought!

A lot of DUers were very nervous about an inside game that was going to defeat Obama.

Guess what? It was bullshit. Another example of an R thinking that if they say something long enough it will somehow come true.

BTW - if Rs were counting on voter suppression helping them win in Ohio and elsewhere, they just got their asses handed to them by the courts.

This time around, they're not just saying they're going to win - there's a blatant attempt to suppress the Democratic vote and they don't care who knows it. The courts are helping, so let's hope that continues. In any case ... it didn't discourage any of my family members from voting. In fact, it's made them more determined to defeat Romney.

I am starting to lean Rmoney got punked. Here is why. Clint Eastwood is an actor and a director. He flubbed his lines. A-list Actors don't flub like that. He was a mess. Again, how many A-list actors go on national stage looking like that? I can't recall any. I bet someone can though. Anyways, he would have rehearsed his speech for hours and wouldn't have flubbed that badly. He recently starred in a movie. So, he is probably still sharp. He acted like he wasn't I am leaning towards he was acting. If he had some kind of dementia it wouldn't be full blown like that, his recent movie indicates he was fine during filming. He might if he was having problems appear to be declining, but he wouldn't be in full bat shit crazy mode this close to making a major film.

It's not like he's been reduced to low budget garbage or reality shows and needed the exposure. The man is still a major star. He didn't have to do it.

If he looked or behaved that way on a set, it would have been reported somewhere. So how did he go from "fully capable A-list actor/director" to "completely bat shit crazy" in such a short amount of time?

You don't go full-on retard. No-one goes full-on retards!

(paraphrased)

Clint was out of his element at the RNC. Worse, he probably had a feeling of comfort because he thought he was among like-minded people who dislike Obama as much as he does. He didn't stop to think that millions of people outside of that hall would be listening.

Don't give him too much credit. He simply let himself be put in a position where his true political nature came out, and it was an ugly thing to see.

if as OP says 'He's pro-choice, pro-marriage equality and he believes in climate change. In 2008, he endorsed John McCain, but wished Obama the best after his victory. He's not a fundie, a teabagger, a birther or any other kind of RW nutjob.'

He had an approved speech, and tossed it before he went on 'stage,' so mebbe it was too REAL pro-rmoney, he couldn't face going ahead with it, so did his 'best' ad-libbing with the silly chair. I'll take that thought to bed with me.

Thanks.

Punking Romney by looking like a grumpy old man in front of the entire world--literally the entire world--wouldn't be as effective doing as a commercial for Obama, if he really was trying to deflate Romney. And looking like a fool in order to make the convention look ill-planned... that would require a mastery of ten-dimensional chess that even Obama couldn't match. It worked in terms of taking attention away from Romney's speech, but only in the sense of making the conversation all about how sad his appearance was. No lifelong movie star, who understandably cares more about his legacy than even ordinary people do (and we all do, to some extent), would make that choice.

You're right about how an A-list actor shouldn't have flubbed like that, and how he must still be compos mentis since he just starred in a movie. I also admit that in light of his recent Super Bowl commercial he would have seemed to be more of an Obama supporter than not, but I just don't see him choosing to punk Romney as a logical best choice for influencing the election. However, who knows--I'll feel pretty bad about my gloating over his epic faceplant if I'm wrong.

anti-Romney.

I'll Godwin this thread by saying that if I was a major actor back in Germany in the 1930s and I had the opportunity to get in a serious, ugly dig at Hitler even if it meant professional ruin or even my own death, I would hope that I would have the courage to do that.

It would even be worth it to keep Nixon, Reagan, or W out of office. So if it would be worth it for them, why not Romney, a man who represents the worst about modern politics in general and the modern republican party in particular?

And what better way to do it than by making them look like fools?

He got them to cheer against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I'll bet anyone $10,000 that he shows up in a few weeks tanned and rested and ready to talk about his new movie.

Why would he do that to himself intentionally?

But then again, he has a film coming out very shortly, in which he could demonstrate an entirely more competent side. If his new film is something on the level of Gran Torino, then that would throw some real doubt on the conventional wisdom that Eastwood was honestly trying to doing a straightforward favor for Romney.

The old man could be punking us all. Or not. I cannot wait to see the reviews.

is Tom Cruise jumping on the couch.

My mom's got a PhD in psychology and she has worked with psychotic and senile people. She said there's no way that he was senile. He rambled, yes, but he didn't say anything that wasn't a completely uncomfortable jab against the status quo. He concluded by saying nice things about democrats and libertarians!

Even if he had gotten up there and gone "Oh crap," he would have seen the light that told him his time was up and gotten the hell off the stage. As it was, it looked to me like he wanted to keep going, but after saying "Make my day" he decided to cut and run.

I think Eastwood is a man who does not give one single shit for the Teabaggers, and he just went out in a blaze of glory in the hopes that he could take the Romney campaign with him.