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real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:03 AM Oct 2019

Tonight a Muslim said nothing about turbans...

He was an old acquaintance; and we talked of Trump and the Mid-East, especially Iran, Saudi Arabia and the invasion of Iraq.

Earlier today, there were some critics of an O.P. I wrote with errors. And I was falsely accused of being stoned.

In fact, he taught me plenty, including the effects of NM medical marijuana, which I smoked for the first time tonight.

Because it was low-potency, I shared some high-breed Colorado Indica with him.

Then we spoke more about Iraq, where he was raised and Trump, which required more high THC content Indica.

He taught me some Arabic words and I assisted him with some - much needed - English words.

Do any of those "turbine (aka turban - religious headwear) mockers want to reply and publicize this post?

BTW, why didn't this "BREAKING" O.P. I posted earlier than the oops O.P. receive any publicity at "DEMOCRATIC" Underground?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212525184

My mistake got plenty of publicity here!
Why?

Who wants to discuss Muslim immigrants suffering from Enculturation and discrimination, in the USA?


شكرا جزيلا
shukraan jazilaan

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Tonight a Muslim said nothing about turbans... (Original Post) real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 OP
kick real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #1
Do you consider enculturation bad? Mosby Oct 2019 #2
No, but both enculturation and acculturation were inflicted on the Inuit... real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #3
Your mistake was not in referring to turbans. MineralMan Oct 2019 #4
As I eventually stated... real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #11
Yes, that is your excuse. MineralMan Oct 2019 #12
Apparently, you need to read my DU Journal... real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #31
No. I don't think so. I'm not going to waste any further time. MineralMan Oct 2019 #33
uh huh, but then the wrote this OP obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #29
another quick judgment... real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #34
Thank you. cwydro Oct 2019 #13
No thanks needed. MineralMan Oct 2019 #17
It's kind of fascinating. cwydro Oct 2019 #20
Are you posting when you're stoned? Archae Oct 2019 #5
As stated in the O.P. I was stoned last night... real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #15
Then, I suggest that you not post OPs when in that condition. MineralMan Oct 2019 #18
Because equating "turbines" with Muslims... TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #6
Please allow me to introduce myself first: real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #19
That's not really relevant to that poster's advice. MineralMan Oct 2019 #22
Gotta admit. I'm a bit shocked by that. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #24
So I'm guessing you think you're making sense, yes? LanternWaste Oct 2019 #7
Lol! cwydro Oct 2019 #14
I slept well last night. How was your sleep? real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #27
Your schtick has gotten old remarkably fast. Codeine Oct 2019 #8
While stoned, last night, I learned a great deal more... real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #26
Getting stoned is not the "road to enlightenment..." Archae Oct 2019 #36
Muslims, male and female, wear a variety of headdresses, and none of them Aristus Oct 2019 #9
current replies appear to "double-down on my errors... real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #21
Bingo. cwydro Oct 2019 #43
My advice: Lay off the pot for awhile Falcata Oct 2019 #10
Thanks, my advice is don't give advice to new friends or strangers real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #23
Dude, the horse is dead. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2019 #16
The OP you replied to focuses on real issues in the USA... real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #25
You called a Sikh a Muslim, which is 100% not accurate obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #28
I don't give a shit if people post when stoned ismnotwasm Oct 2019 #30
Just curious, how many years have you been using pot? wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #32
As an extremely functional cannabis user I feel like you are giving potheads like me a bad name ... malchickiwick Oct 2019 #35
Honest advice to new writers, at DU, who will face unfair criticism: real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #37
Cannabis didn't bring anything together; Codeine Oct 2019 #38
My new friend's medical marijuana brought us together. real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #39
Weird, I can focus on things other than intolerance Codeine Oct 2019 #40
Oddly this OP posted today got no replies: real Cannabis calm Oct 2019 #41
It wasn't viewed much Codeine Oct 2019 #42

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
3. No, but both enculturation and acculturation were inflicted on the Inuit...
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 10:31 AM
Oct 2019

The combination had devastating results on their existing culture, eventually.

I learned about these effects, from a great teacher, who had practiced and reported on cultural anthropology, before becoming a college professor.

She taught about ancient practices of the Inuit, who still inhabit the Arctic region - one of the most forbidding territories on earth.

While they had many words for snow, their word for "laughing" applied to both the physical practice, which includes giggling, snickering, LOL and also sexual encounters.

Hunting - for them - was extremely dangerous. And, as a result neighboring Inuit hunters would form deals with other hunters of their tribe.

For example, after a deal was made, a stranded hunter could find refuge in the Igloo of another hunter, even while he was out hunting and "laugh" with his neighbor's woman.

However, if no deal had been made previously, and a visiting hunter came to the igloo of a neighbor and began laughing with his Inuit neighbor's woman, the absent builder of the igloo was required to kill the invader or lose face with all other Inuit, in the area.

When the Canadian Mounted Police became aware of this ancient practice, they decided to make an example of a hunter, who had not lost face with other Inuit, after an unapproved "laughing" incident had occurred, in his igloo.

The Canadian Mounted Police decided to put the Native in jail, for about a year and then release him to tell the story of incarceration to other Inuit, which they thought would dissuade them from murder, after he told his story of lost freedom, to other tribesmen.

But, the truth he told them of his incarceration did not have the desired effect.

He accurately and perhaps excitedly describe "THREE FREE MEALS A DAY!"

Also, he told fellow Inuit that he had been detained in a place that "NEVER GOT COLD!"

No Inuit were dissuaded from their ancient practices, regarding "laughing," by reports of experiences the hunter, who had been detained in jail, as an example.

Muslim immigrants, living in the USA, experience enculturation, acculturation and racism, especially Muslim women, who do not wear turbans, but do wear traditional clothing in many cases. And they are treated badly for wearing the clothing their ancient religion requires.


MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. Your mistake was not in referring to turbans.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 10:38 AM
Oct 2019

Your mistake was in calling a Sikh policeman in Texas a Muslim. That's not just a typo; it's a serious error. Despite a headline in the news story stating that he was a Sikh, you changed his religious faith to Muslim.

Why? So, yes, many of us pointed out your error, because it was an egregious one. We didn't make the error. You did. I'm still curious about why you would change what the headline said to call him a Muslim erroneously. You didn't explain that.

And now, you're complaining about us correcting your mistake? Really?

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
11. As I eventually stated...
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:34 PM
Oct 2019

After and during the O.P. I was focused on more important work, which began immediately after I posted. I did not take the time to review replies, until after my real work was completed. That day, I had no time to sit in front of my computer to check the results of my admitted mistakes. More occurred in those replies than valid criticisms.

This O.P. however, is about enculturation acculturation and prejudice. But leaving the past behind is also important.

Would you rather keep focusing on the past or discuss real problems in the USA?

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
31. Apparently, you need to read my DU Journal...
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:04 PM
Oct 2019

instead of continuing to make absurd judgmental statements and accusations on this OP, which should focus on cultural prejudices.

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
34. another quick judgment...
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:08 PM
Oct 2019

Instead of a reply to the main topics on the current OP. Why are there no replies to the current topics in this OP?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
20. It's kind of fascinating.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:49 PM
Oct 2019

I’ve seen a lot here, but this is an original lol.

That said, I agree with what you said about finding it annoying.

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
15. As stated in the O.P. I was stoned last night...
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:43 PM
Oct 2019

I wrote the O,P. while totally stoned on serous hybrid Cannabis Indica.

While everything wild that reproduces and grows naturally in the world remains important to me, I still have an agenda, which includes legalizing recreational marijuana in every state, especially New Mexico. It appears that medical marijuana growers have a powerful lobby operating here, although recreational cannabis would dramatically improve our economy and poor educational system.

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
6. Because equating "turbines" with Muslims...
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:03 AM
Oct 2019

Probably isn’t a good way to start a conversation. It’s just not.

Might I make a suggestion? Delete this op and start a new one. Make a strong attempt to make the subject matter the cornerstone of your op, not yourself. Stick to facts. If you don’t know something don’t make it up.

Give it a try.

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
19. Please allow me to introduce myself first:
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:48 PM
Oct 2019

I obtained a Bachelors Degree, with a major in communications and a minor in Anthropology. Afterward, I worked extensively in communications, especially broadcast radio.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
22. That's not really relevant to that poster's advice.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:50 PM
Oct 2019

You'll find many well-educated articulate people on DU.

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
24. Gotta admit. I'm a bit shocked by that.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:51 PM
Oct 2019

Not by the fact it poses no relevance. More that you are claiming communication skills as a part of your wheelhouse. You did the exact opposite as I advised and made it even more about you.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. So I'm guessing you think you're making sense, yes?
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:06 AM
Oct 2019

A couple slices of pizza or a slice of key lime pie plus a few hours sleep may not be the worst thing.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
8. Your schtick has gotten old remarkably fast.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:25 AM
Oct 2019

But at least you can take comfort in the knowledge that you learned what a Sikh is and that they aren’t Muslims.

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
26. While stoned, last night, I learned a great deal more...
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:55 PM
Oct 2019

From a neighbor, who is now a Muslim friend of mine.

Archae

(46,337 posts)
36. Getting stoned is not the "road to enlightenment..."
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:23 PM
Oct 2019

In fact it's the opposite.

When drunk and/or stoned, people are incoherent, unbalanced and will say and do stupid things.

I've done it myself.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
9. Muslims, male and female, wear a variety of headdresses, and none of them
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 11:35 AM
Oct 2019

is a turban.

Please don't double down on your error. It just makes you look worse.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
28. You called a Sikh a Muslim, which is 100% not accurate
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:57 PM
Oct 2019

Sikhs get beaten and discriminated against for "being Muslims." They aren't. Many of us told you that, and you refused to address why you said they were (YOU CHANGED THE ARTICLE TITLE TO SAY SIKHS ARE MUSLIM!).

Why were you inaccurate ON PURPOSE, why did you refuse to fix your error, and why did you not address why you did it?

But yet wrote this OP trying to say WE were the issue, not your false information.



ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
30. I don't give a shit if people post when stoned
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:02 PM
Oct 2019

I do care when Sikhs and Muslims get interchanged for some bewildering reason. Doubling down to make your point is not illustrating an effective strategy for initiating discussion, but that’s just my opinion

This is too bad, because being Muslim in America is quite the experience from what I hear from friends and what I read. Just the experience of Christmas for instance.

Didn’t know Indica was still a thing. It’s been years since marijuana interested me on a personal, as opposed to political level.



 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
32. Just curious, how many years have you been using pot?
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:06 PM
Oct 2019

Is it the center of your existence? Your name seems to lead me to assume that

I was a seller and user in the early 80’s in Los Angeles. I quit getting high and drunk then.

In my life I have known two people who were heavy pot users who died as a consequence. One ODed on a mix of drugs and pot and one committed suicide. The suicide person had extreme survivor’s guilt from the Vietnam war and the other person was a party animal. Both guys were high most of the day.

I don’t know anything about today’s cannabis scene. I have a negative opinion of getting high now.

Mostly based on Buddhist thought. I am intrigued by people who feel it is an important part of their life. That is because you really are not functioning well while stoned. So I like to know how often people like to get stoned.

I have nothing against legalization of pot.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
35. As an extremely functional cannabis user I feel like you are giving potheads like me a bad name ...
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:22 PM
Oct 2019

... No amount of indica, sativa, or any hybrid on the spectrum would EVER lead me to completely bungle the way your first post did, and now this post does.

Own it, and don't blame my friend Mary Jane!

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
37. Honest advice to new writers, at DU, who will face unfair criticism:
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:33 PM
Oct 2019


That's not the focus of this OP!

It's focus is on Cannabis bringing people of diverse cultures together!

Can you read?
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
38. Cannabis didn't bring anything together;
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:48 PM
Oct 2019

conversation did. Conversation is just as easily achieved without use of intoxicants as with them, and is usually more coherent in the former state.

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
39. My new friend's medical marijuana brought us together.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:11 PM
Oct 2019

My Colorado imported Indica helped us focus on music, instead of intolerance and controversy.

I'm glad you finally read the OP. Please take the time to read several current news articles in my journal, which were written while I was not high, but instead sober, like I will remain until tonight.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
42. It wasn't viewed much
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:25 PM
Oct 2019

because your title gave no indication of what it was about. Many readers won’t bother to click on what amounts to a blind post.

I’m pretty confident nearly everyone at DU has been to a march at some point, myself included.

I’m genuinely curious why you deflect so much; any attempt to get you to explain your errors results in little more than a desperate “Look over there!!”

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