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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTonight a Muslim said nothing about turbans...
He was an old acquaintance; and we talked of Trump and the Mid-East, especially Iran, Saudi Arabia and the invasion of Iraq.
Earlier today, there were some critics of an O.P. I wrote with errors. And I was falsely accused of being stoned.
In fact, he taught me plenty, including the effects of NM medical marijuana, which I smoked for the first time tonight.
Because it was low-potency, I shared some high-breed Colorado Indica with him.
Then we spoke more about Iraq, where he was raised and Trump, which required more high THC content Indica.
He taught me some Arabic words and I assisted him with some - much needed - English words.
Do any of those "turbine (aka turban - religious headwear) mockers want to reply and publicize this post?
BTW, why didn't this "BREAKING" O.P. I posted earlier than the oops O.P. receive any publicity at "DEMOCRATIC" Underground?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212525184
My mistake got plenty of publicity here!
Why?
Who wants to discuss Muslim immigrants suffering from Enculturation and discrimination, in the USA?
شكرا جزيلا
shukraan jazilaan
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)Mosby
(16,319 posts)Honestly I'm not that familiar with the concept.
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)The combination had devastating results on their existing culture, eventually.
I learned about these effects, from a great teacher, who had practiced and reported on cultural anthropology, before becoming a college professor.
She taught about ancient practices of the Inuit, who still inhabit the Arctic region - one of the most forbidding territories on earth.
While they had many words for snow, their word for "laughing" applied to both the physical practice, which includes giggling, snickering, LOL and also sexual encounters.
Hunting - for them - was extremely dangerous. And, as a result neighboring Inuit hunters would form deals with other hunters of their tribe.
For example, after a deal was made, a stranded hunter could find refuge in the Igloo of another hunter, even while he was out hunting and "laugh" with his neighbor's woman.
However, if no deal had been made previously, and a visiting hunter came to the igloo of a neighbor and began laughing with his Inuit neighbor's woman, the absent builder of the igloo was required to kill the invader or lose face with all other Inuit, in the area.
When the Canadian Mounted Police became aware of this ancient practice, they decided to make an example of a hunter, who had not lost face with other Inuit, after an unapproved "laughing" incident had occurred, in his igloo.
The Canadian Mounted Police decided to put the Native in jail, for about a year and then release him to tell the story of incarceration to other Inuit, which they thought would dissuade them from murder, after he told his story of lost freedom, to other tribesmen.
But, the truth he told them of his incarceration did not have the desired effect.
He accurately and perhaps excitedly describe "THREE FREE MEALS A DAY!"
Also, he told fellow Inuit that he had been detained in a place that "NEVER GOT COLD!"
No Inuit were dissuaded from their ancient practices, regarding "laughing," by reports of experiences the hunter, who had been detained in jail, as an example.
Muslim immigrants, living in the USA, experience enculturation, acculturation and racism, especially Muslim women, who do not wear turbans, but do wear traditional clothing in many cases. And they are treated badly for wearing the clothing their ancient religion requires.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Your mistake was in calling a Sikh policeman in Texas a Muslim. That's not just a typo; it's a serious error. Despite a headline in the news story stating that he was a Sikh, you changed his religious faith to Muslim.
Why? So, yes, many of us pointed out your error, because it was an egregious one. We didn't make the error. You did. I'm still curious about why you would change what the headline said to call him a Muslim erroneously. You didn't explain that.
And now, you're complaining about us correcting your mistake? Really?
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)After and during the O.P. I was focused on more important work, which began immediately after I posted. I did not take the time to review replies, until after my real work was completed. That day, I had no time to sit in front of my computer to check the results of my admitted mistakes. More occurred in those replies than valid criticisms.
This O.P. however, is about enculturation acculturation and prejudice. But leaving the past behind is also important.
Would you rather keep focusing on the past or discuss real problems in the USA?
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Consider taking what you post here seriously. We do.
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)instead of continuing to make absurd judgmental statements and accusations on this OP, which should focus on cultural prejudices.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)So, you are showing this was all in bad faith.
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)Instead of a reply to the main topics on the current OP. Why are there no replies to the current topics in this OP?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)+1000
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I find things like this annoying. I take DU seriously.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Ive seen a lot here, but this is an original lol.
That said, I agree with what you said about finding it annoying.
Archae
(46,337 posts)Seems that way at times...
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)I wrote the O,P. while totally stoned on serous hybrid Cannabis Indica.
While everything wild that reproduces and grows naturally in the world remains important to me, I still have an agenda, which includes legalizing recreational marijuana in every state, especially New Mexico. It appears that medical marijuana growers have a powerful lobby operating here, although recreational cannabis would dramatically improve our economy and poor educational system.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)They don't reflect well on you when you do.
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Probably isnt a good way to start a conversation. Its just not.
Might I make a suggestion? Delete this op and start a new one. Make a strong attempt to make the subject matter the cornerstone of your op, not yourself. Stick to facts. If you dont know something dont make it up.
Give it a try.
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)I obtained a Bachelors Degree, with a major in communications and a minor in Anthropology. Afterward, I worked extensively in communications, especially broadcast radio.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)You'll find many well-educated articulate people on DU.
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Not by the fact it poses no relevance. More that you are claiming communication skills as a part of your wheelhouse. You did the exact opposite as I advised and made it even more about you.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)A couple slices of pizza or a slice of key lime pie plus a few hours sleep may not be the worst thing.
Yes indeed!
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)I awoke early and went to the bank.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)But at least you can take comfort in the knowledge that you learned what a Sikh is and that they arent Muslims.
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)From a neighbor, who is now a Muslim friend of mine.
Archae
(46,337 posts)In fact it's the opposite.
When drunk and/or stoned, people are incoherent, unbalanced and will say and do stupid things.
I've done it myself.
Aristus
(66,388 posts)is a turban.
Please don't double down on your error. It just makes you look worse.
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)Why?
Falcata
(156 posts)real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Stop beating it.
We all make mistakes.
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)It barely touches on my previous mistakes.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Sikhs get beaten and discriminated against for "being Muslims." They aren't. Many of us told you that, and you refused to address why you said they were (YOU CHANGED THE ARTICLE TITLE TO SAY SIKHS ARE MUSLIM!).
Why were you inaccurate ON PURPOSE, why did you refuse to fix your error, and why did you not address why you did it?
But yet wrote this OP trying to say WE were the issue, not your false information.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)I do care when Sikhs and Muslims get interchanged for some bewildering reason. Doubling down to make your point is not illustrating an effective strategy for initiating discussion, but thats just my opinion
This is too bad, because being Muslim in America is quite the experience from what I hear from friends and what I read. Just the experience of Christmas for instance.
Didnt know Indica was still a thing. Its been years since marijuana interested me on a personal, as opposed to political level.
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)Is it the center of your existence? Your name seems to lead me to assume that
I was a seller and user in the early 80s in Los Angeles. I quit getting high and drunk then.
In my life I have known two people who were heavy pot users who died as a consequence. One ODed on a mix of drugs and pot and one committed suicide. The suicide person had extreme survivors guilt from the Vietnam war and the other person was a party animal. Both guys were high most of the day.
I dont know anything about todays cannabis scene. I have a negative opinion of getting high now.
Mostly based on Buddhist thought. I am intrigued by people who feel it is an important part of their life. That is because you really are not functioning well while stoned. So I like to know how often people like to get stoned.
I have nothing against legalization of pot.
malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)... No amount of indica, sativa, or any hybrid on the spectrum would EVER lead me to completely bungle the way your first post did, and now this post does.
Own it, and don't blame my friend Mary Jane!
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)That's not the focus of this OP!
It's focus is on Cannabis bringing people of diverse cultures together!
Can you read?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)conversation did. Conversation is just as easily achieved without use of intoxicants as with them, and is usually more coherent in the former state.
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)My Colorado imported Indica helped us focus on music, instead of intolerance and controversy.
I'm glad you finally read the OP. Please take the time to read several current news articles in my journal, which were written while I was not high, but instead sober, like I will remain until tonight.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)and Ive never been high once.
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)It got 6 recommendations but little publicity.
Have you ever participated in a protest march?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)because your title gave no indication of what it was about. Many readers wont bother to click on what amounts to a blind post.
Im pretty confident nearly everyone at DU has been to a march at some point, myself included.
Im genuinely curious why you deflect so much; any attempt to get you to explain your errors results in little more than a desperate Look over there!!