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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGOP defenses for Trump's Ukraine call quickly collapse under scrutiny
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/01/gop-defenses-for-trumps-ukraine-call-quickly-collapse-under-scrutiny.html
John Harwood @JOHNJHARWOOD
KEY POINTS
The Republican defenses for President Donald Trumps conduct on Ukraine simply dont hold up.
At first glance, that can be hard to discern. Trump, his aides and select allies in Congress have feverishly sought to redirect a whistleblowers complaints toward Democratic adversaries.
It is the height of insanity for the Democrats to try and bogusly impeach President Trump for simply calling out this corruption, a Republican National Committee spokesman asserted over the weekend.
Yet even cursory scrutiny of evidence that has emerged so far knocks down assorted GOP arguments like shanties in a hurricane. Heres a brief review:
It was hearsay
House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy notes that the whistleblower wasnt on the call between Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart. Hearsay, Sen. Lindsey Graham insists, cannot be a basis for impeachment.
Both observations are irrelevant. In the partial transcript of the call released by the White House itself, Trumps own words affirm the whistleblowers account. That is direct evidence, not hearsay.
If they thought it would be exculpatory, they miscalculated badly, GOP former Sen. Jeff Flake told me.
Biased whistleblower
The president says the still-unidentified whistleblower harbors known bias against him. This observation, which the intelligence community inspector general called arguable, does not discredit the whistleblowers allegations, which the inspector general found credible.
If the whistleblowers information is accurate, his motivation doesnt matter. Trumps own former homeland security advisor, Thomas Bossert, has described himself as deeply disturbed by the presidents behavior, too.
Media distortion
On 60 Minutes Sunday night, CBS correspondent Scott Pelley asked about Trumps comment that I need you to do us a favor, though after Ukraines new president requested military aid to counter Russian aggression.
You added a word there, GOP leader McCarthy replied, referring to the damning though.
McCarthys assertion was false; Pelley accurately quoted the White House-released document. The most charitable interpretation of the GOP leaders embarrassment is that he had not actually reviewed the evidence he had gone on national television to discuss.
It wasnt about Biden
On Meet the Press, House GOP Whip Steve Scalise insisted the favor Trump sought was an investigation into the cybersecurity firm Crowdstrike, rather than dirt on Biden. That investigation, in turn, might explain the true source of outside interference in the 2016 election.
In fact, the partial transcript shows Trump specifically requested an investigation of Biden and his son. The U.S. government already knows the origin of 2016 interference: Russia, which favored Trump over Hillary Clinton.
Scalise alluded to unfounded suspicions among conspiracy-minded Republicans that Ukraine, seeking to help Clinton, was the real meddler. Those suspicions, former Trump aide Bossert notes, have been completely debunked.
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John Harwood @JOHNJHARWOOD
KEY POINTS
Trump, his aides and select allies in Congress have feverishly sought to redirect a whistleblowers complaints toward Democratic adversaries.
Yet even cursory scrutiny of evidence that has emerged so far knocks down assorted GOP arguments like shanties in a hurricane, writes John Harwood.
The Republican defenses for President Donald Trumps conduct on Ukraine simply dont hold up.
At first glance, that can be hard to discern. Trump, his aides and select allies in Congress have feverishly sought to redirect a whistleblowers complaints toward Democratic adversaries.
It is the height of insanity for the Democrats to try and bogusly impeach President Trump for simply calling out this corruption, a Republican National Committee spokesman asserted over the weekend.
Yet even cursory scrutiny of evidence that has emerged so far knocks down assorted GOP arguments like shanties in a hurricane. Heres a brief review:
It was hearsay
House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy notes that the whistleblower wasnt on the call between Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart. Hearsay, Sen. Lindsey Graham insists, cannot be a basis for impeachment.
Both observations are irrelevant. In the partial transcript of the call released by the White House itself, Trumps own words affirm the whistleblowers account. That is direct evidence, not hearsay.
If they thought it would be exculpatory, they miscalculated badly, GOP former Sen. Jeff Flake told me.
Biased whistleblower
The president says the still-unidentified whistleblower harbors known bias against him. This observation, which the intelligence community inspector general called arguable, does not discredit the whistleblowers allegations, which the inspector general found credible.
If the whistleblowers information is accurate, his motivation doesnt matter. Trumps own former homeland security advisor, Thomas Bossert, has described himself as deeply disturbed by the presidents behavior, too.
Media distortion
On 60 Minutes Sunday night, CBS correspondent Scott Pelley asked about Trumps comment that I need you to do us a favor, though after Ukraines new president requested military aid to counter Russian aggression.
You added a word there, GOP leader McCarthy replied, referring to the damning though.
McCarthys assertion was false; Pelley accurately quoted the White House-released document. The most charitable interpretation of the GOP leaders embarrassment is that he had not actually reviewed the evidence he had gone on national television to discuss.
It wasnt about Biden
On Meet the Press, House GOP Whip Steve Scalise insisted the favor Trump sought was an investigation into the cybersecurity firm Crowdstrike, rather than dirt on Biden. That investigation, in turn, might explain the true source of outside interference in the 2016 election.
In fact, the partial transcript shows Trump specifically requested an investigation of Biden and his son. The U.S. government already knows the origin of 2016 interference: Russia, which favored Trump over Hillary Clinton.
Scalise alluded to unfounded suspicions among conspiracy-minded Republicans that Ukraine, seeking to help Clinton, was the real meddler. Those suspicions, former Trump aide Bossert notes, have been completely debunked.
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GOP defenses for Trump's Ukraine call quickly collapse under scrutiny (Original Post)
Dennis Donovan
Oct 2019
OP
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)1. "The president says the still-unidentified whistleblower harbors "known bias" against him."
Since the whistleblower has not been identified, there is no way for the president to determine the extent of "known bias". Nor does that bias change the White House transcript.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)2. The good and trump still having a pity party
Playing the victim card
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)3. Even the Crowdstrike investigation
is something that is on Russia's wish list and should raise huge red flags
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)4. Kick
Biden interfered
Trump asserts that, as Barack Obamas vice president, Biden sought to protect his son by demanding that Ukraine fire a prosecutor. At the time, Hunter Biden worked for a Ukrainian energy firm that had faced an investigation.
Yet Bidens demand was not personal. He made it on behalf of the U.S. government and allies including the European Union and the International Monetary Fund none of whom have accused the former vice president of misconduct.
Moreover, Ukrainian officials say the investigation into Hunter Bidens company was inactive when the prosecutor was ousted. The prosecutor who replaced him told the Los Angeles Times he had no evidence of illegality.
No quid pro quo
In the call, Trump did not explicitly condition military aid on a new Biden investigation. I didnt do it, the president told reporters. There was no quid pro quo.
As a matter of propriety, that does not absolve Trump for baselessly seeking derogatory information about a domestic rival from a foreign government an abuse of presidential power under any circumstances.
But former federal prosecutor Mimi Rocah, calling Trumps purpose 100% clear, notes that even mobsters dont make extortion demands explicit. Writing in The Washington Post, Flake said the partial transcript removed all ambiguity about the presidents intent.
The whistleblowers account seems convincing, concludes Kori Schake, a former national security aide to President George W. Bush, that the president was using our countrys foreign policy to blackmail a foreign country.
Ukraine is getting aid
The U.S. expanded military assistance to Ukraine after Russia seized part of its territory in 2014. Trump says he has helped more than Obama.
But furnishing aid requires support by Congress. Both parties have provided it.
The Trump administrations Pentagon, State Department and National Security Council all supported the aid this summer, Fox News has reported. But Trump personally froze it just days before calling the Ukrainian leader.
Trump unfroze the aid only after the whistleblower complained to Congress. The Ukrainian leader still hasnt gotten the long-sought meeting in Washington he reminded Trump about on the call.
Trump asserts that, as Barack Obamas vice president, Biden sought to protect his son by demanding that Ukraine fire a prosecutor. At the time, Hunter Biden worked for a Ukrainian energy firm that had faced an investigation.
Yet Bidens demand was not personal. He made it on behalf of the U.S. government and allies including the European Union and the International Monetary Fund none of whom have accused the former vice president of misconduct.
Moreover, Ukrainian officials say the investigation into Hunter Bidens company was inactive when the prosecutor was ousted. The prosecutor who replaced him told the Los Angeles Times he had no evidence of illegality.
No quid pro quo
In the call, Trump did not explicitly condition military aid on a new Biden investigation. I didnt do it, the president told reporters. There was no quid pro quo.
As a matter of propriety, that does not absolve Trump for baselessly seeking derogatory information about a domestic rival from a foreign government an abuse of presidential power under any circumstances.
But former federal prosecutor Mimi Rocah, calling Trumps purpose 100% clear, notes that even mobsters dont make extortion demands explicit. Writing in The Washington Post, Flake said the partial transcript removed all ambiguity about the presidents intent.
The whistleblowers account seems convincing, concludes Kori Schake, a former national security aide to President George W. Bush, that the president was using our countrys foreign policy to blackmail a foreign country.
Ukraine is getting aid
The U.S. expanded military assistance to Ukraine after Russia seized part of its territory in 2014. Trump says he has helped more than Obama.
But furnishing aid requires support by Congress. Both parties have provided it.
The Trump administrations Pentagon, State Department and National Security Council all supported the aid this summer, Fox News has reported. But Trump personally froze it just days before calling the Ukrainian leader.
Trump unfroze the aid only after the whistleblower complained to Congress. The Ukrainian leader still hasnt gotten the long-sought meeting in Washington he reminded Trump about on the call.