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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 10:37 AM Oct 2019

This Is the Moment Rachel Maddow Has Been Waiting For

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/magazine/rachel-maddow-trump.html



How the MSNBC host staked her show on Trump — and won the largest and most obsessive audience of her career.

Rachel Maddow was trying to get to work. She only had to get from the glass door of her doctor’s office to the tinted-windowed S.U.V. that was idling at the curb, waiting to spirit her to 30 Rockefeller Plaza, but there was a hitch. Maddow had torn three ligaments in her left ankle — fishing accident — and one of those ligaments ripped off a piece of her bone, so now she was lumbering toward the sidewalk, her foot strapped into a boot, her lanky body bent over crutches that creaked and boomed with every hit to the sidewalk. In Manhattan, this had the effect of a kind of ritualistic drumbeat, alerting every liberal within earshot to her presence.

A woman with a graying ponytail suddenly wriggled into Maddow’s path. “Rachel,” she said, extending her phone to secure a selfie for a friend in Oregon who watches her show every single night and was going to bug out when she saw this. Maddow smiled for the camera as a man in long shorts planted himself 20 feet away, holding his own phone up horizontally to film the scene. When he saw Maddow see him, he smiled and waved slowly, as if he were a proud relative capturing a milestone. Farther down the block, a woman screamed something incomprehensible in her direction. As Maddow finally neared the curb, a woman with silver hair and chunky glasses materialized at her side and said with blasé familiarity: “I don’t know what happened to you, but I just want to say I love you. Keep up the good work. Can I give you a hug?”

Maddow balanced on her good foot. She spread her crutches out to accommodate the stranger’s embrace. “What’s your name?” Maddow asked brightly, as if she had hobbled out expressly for the purposes of saying hello. “Emily,” she said. She made a perfunctory gesture toward the silent bald man next to her. “This is Ed, my ex-husband.”

“Big fan of yours,” Ed said, and he went in for a handshake, which Maddow was eager to meet until she discovered, midreach, that her ankle could not make the pivot to a second greeter. “Whoa,” Maddow said. “No twisting! Sorry!”

<snip>

At 8:57 on Sept. 23, the night before Representative Nancy Pelosi would call for an impeachment inquiry into Trump, Maddow limped out onto her show’s cavernous soundstage in Adidas sneakers and a black velvet blazer. She dumped her crutches, slid into her anchor chair and used the three minutes before she went on the air to scan a document and type silently into a computer hidden in her desktop. She wore a resting frown. Then, at precisely 9, she looked up into the camera lens, inhaled sharply and, suddenly animated, burst out: “What a time to be alive, right?”

She leaned familiarly toward the lens and put a bright spin on the latest Trump scandal that was swiftly coming into view. “You will always be able to look back at this time in your life and say: ‘You know, I was alive during that presidency. I remember how crazy it was,’?” she said. Then she segued into her signature move: a 25-minute soliloquy on the convoluted schemes swirling around the Trump-Ukraine incident, burrowing into a dense network of connections among Paul Manafort, Senator Mitch McConnell, Rudy Giuliani, the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, the Ukrainian natural-gas billionaire Dmitry V. Firtash and the former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych. By the time she cut to her first commercial break, she had zoomed out so far that Trump’s July 25 phone call with the president of Ukraine appeared to be just one little pushpin on a map of vast global corruption.

</snip>


...a day in the life of a hero.
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This Is the Moment Rachel Maddow Has Been Waiting For (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #1
What an apt comparison! lunatica Oct 2019 #20
RACHEL FOR POTUS!!! lindysalsagal Oct 2019 #2
Whoa. I love the thought of her as POTUS. n/t Mersky Oct 2019 #3
She'd be one of the smartest and most capable POTUS's ever joost5 Oct 2019 #7
No. She wouldn't. SlogginThroughIt Oct 2019 #22
She might well be the most capable in a long time. soldierant Oct 2019 #33
How capable would she be i foreign affairs? SlogginThroughIt Oct 2019 #34
Capable enough to appoint the most capable SOS possible soldierant Oct 2019 #40
So far she's written 2 books that have a large foreign affairs component joost5 Oct 2019 #48
I think the plural is "POTI" lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #47
The new book sounds excellent too, just from her interview last night bullwinkle428 Oct 2019 #4
her new book Blowout is out today! nt yaesu Oct 2019 #5
Buy it at Amazon LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2019 #16
She will be on Cobert tonight RainCaster Oct 2019 #6
Shout out for Colbert! colorado_ufo Oct 2019 #32
K&R gademocrat7 Oct 2019 #8
To the Maddow critics here at DU - seriously????? NoMoreRepugs Oct 2019 #9
Who the ____ is critical of Rachel Duppers Oct 2019 #12
I am not critical of what she reports...... lastlib Oct 2019 #17
Yes, her educator's approach gets a little tedius, but we need poor listeners to absorb the TryLogic Oct 2019 #21
Well, as an anonymous and faceless viewer among millions lunatica Oct 2019 #23
Bingo! Couldn't agree more. stopbush Oct 2019 #26
Agree. I watch her only sometimes because of this. Some of moonscape Oct 2019 #29
I am a critic of her Awsi Dooger Oct 2019 #43
I don't understand this comment. kag Oct 2019 #46
She's the Patron Saint of Veracity joost5 Oct 2019 #49
Correcting my faulty memory above: Yes, I've Duppers Oct 2019 #52
Rachel is one of the most important things keeping me sane right now leftieNanner Oct 2019 #10
Yes she's all that - and she's worked hard to earn her success too FakeNoose Oct 2019 #14
And remember -- It's Dr. Maddow. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2019 #38
You would be right at home in our house. kag Oct 2019 #45
Anyone else listen to Stephanie Miller in the morning? joost5 Oct 2019 #50
I used to on Air America leftieNanner Oct 2019 #51
She is the Cronkite/Murrow of the 21st century nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2019 #11
Rachel is most excellent at what she does. KnR! Hekate Oct 2019 #13
A great article that accurately shows Maddow, as Maddow is interpreted, and as she wants to be seen. ancianita Oct 2019 #15
she sounds so nice... it must be exhausting to work so hard and then be welcoming to fans renate Oct 2019 #18
She is! DFW Oct 2019 #25
Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! renate Oct 2019 #27
Cool story! Good to know she's a genuinely nice in person as she appears to be on the air flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #36
"staked her show on Trump"? I don't think so. TryLogic Oct 2019 #19
I agree lunatica Oct 2019 #24
Yeah, they should lose that line. Thankfully the article ecstatic Oct 2019 #37
I was trying to describe LBC.co.uk's James O'Brien to my sister. "He's the UK's Rachel Maddow", no OnDoutside Oct 2019 #28
I adore her with the passion of 1000 suns (or something). n/t ariadne0614 Oct 2019 #30
All the rest is infotainment. She is the real deal. LuckyLib Oct 2019 #31
I believe Lawrence O'Donnell is her equal FakeNoose Oct 2019 #39
k&r n/t lordsummerisle Oct 2019 #35
Thank you for posting this! I just read the whole article Upthevibe Oct 2019 #41
Thanks so much for posting. Kind of Blue Oct 2019 #42
The "tax returns" episode was kind of a dud :p but I still trust her and like her style. NCLefty Oct 2019 #44
I love her whiteboard wall o'notes! (n/t) forgotmylogin Oct 2019 #53

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
20. What an apt comparison!
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:36 PM
Oct 2019

Your so right!

She really is like him in her professionalism, yet she’s allowed to be more than he could be because his job and his role were really quite restricted and confined by the state and the media rules of the time. Yet it didn’t stop him from being a giant in his field.

Thanks!

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
22. No. She wouldn't.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:42 PM
Oct 2019

She is damn good at what she does. She is wicked smart but to say she would be the most CAPABLE, is crazy.

Love Rachel but this is way overboard.

soldierant

(6,884 posts)
33. She might well be the most capable in a long time.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 07:32 PM
Oct 2019

Frankly, though we have had some who were way better then some others, during my lifetime the bar for capable has been low. (I'm 74)

soldierant

(6,884 posts)
40. Capable enough to appoint the most capable SOS possible
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 10:17 PM
Oct 2019

and to support the Department in rebuilding the diplomatic service. Leaders don't do everything themselves. The people they have around them can make or break them. She's very good at sizing up people's capabilities and bringing out th best in them.

joost5

(421 posts)
48. So far she's written 2 books that have a large foreign affairs component
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:17 PM
Oct 2019

She understands more than most politicians about how the world is run.

lastlib

(23,244 posts)
17. I am not critical of what she reports......
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:07 PM
Oct 2019

...but I am critical of her treating me like a fifth-grader--long-winded, tedious, repetitious explanations that could be given in one-third the time and verbiage. I'm an educated, intelligent man--I don't need to be treated like an imbecile. But I do thank God she's on our side.

TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
21. Yes, her educator's approach gets a little tedius, but we need poor listeners to absorb the
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:38 PM
Oct 2019

information. Repeating the truth may be as important for democracy as repeating lies is for dictators and despots.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
23. Well, as an anonymous and faceless viewer among millions
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:46 PM
Oct 2019

you’re in the company of imbeciles, like it or not. If you take that into consideration it’s not too hard to appreciate that she actually imparts knowledge to people who may be less educated on the subject. Why criticize her for reaching far more people?

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
26. Bingo! Couldn't agree more.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:28 PM
Oct 2019

It’s the reason I seldom watch her anymore. Give me Nicolle or Lawrence.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
29. Agree. I watch her only sometimes because of this. Some of
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 04:07 PM
Oct 2019

her explanations and background are great, when it's something I don't already know. If she would say where she's going, why the background, then I could decide if it's of interest. Honestly, I'd watch her more if she did this I'm sure.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
43. I am a critic of her
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 02:47 AM
Oct 2019

Rachel Maddow has a grotesque evaluation of variables and probability. That is true in election years regarding state polling, and has been especially true throughout the Trump presidency.

Posters here had overboard faith in Mueller ousting Trump largely due to Rachel Maddow and her inept assessment of where that report would lead. I never question her research. Just the opposite. It will be heralded down the road as this atrocity of a president is scoped. But Rachel absolutely butchers the conclusions and impressions in regard to how the system will deal with everything she uncovers. Often her 20 minute repetition is more time than the system itself will ever care.

I spent 24 years in Las Vegas as a sports bettor. There were frequent blowhards in that realm who would know all the details but couldn't pick a winner. We called them a "go against." As in, "Oh yeah, I've known him for months. Don't waste your time..unless you need another Go Against." That would be Rachel Maddow in politics.

I realize my priorities may be different. I don't want someone dissecting what happened 9 months ago or 38 months ago. Republicans are scheming in the background all the time toward 2020 and beyond. I would prefer someone in that 9 PM role with visionary insight toward that, and how to stop/prevent it. Nothing like that ever occurs to Rachel Maddow. She'll have a wonderful time in 2023 telling us about all the cheating Republicans undertook in 2016 through 2020.

Those "Go Against" types sometimes earned a pat on the back. Likewise I hope this whistleblower development and all of its offshoots allows Rachel Maddow to stumble into the winner's circle for a change.

kag

(4,079 posts)
46. I don't understand this comment.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 07:28 AM
Oct 2019

Nobody is "betting" on anything Rachel says or does. Her job is to provide commentary on the politics of the day, and she does that very well. Her job is NOT to instruct legislators or voters in how to stop the Trumps of the world or prevent them in the first place, but when a Trump happens, I want Rachel there telling the world the historical context in which he is acting.

I agree that she can be repetitive. (It drives my spouse crazy.) But I find her very entertaining and insightful.

"Winning" doesn't mean causing Trump's downfall. It means telling the story of it in a smart, compelling way. And by that measure, I don't think she has "stumbled" into the winner's circle (unless you're referring to her torn ACL). She's there now.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
52. Correcting my faulty memory above: Yes, I've
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:41 PM
Oct 2019

Encountered those creeps here too, throwing sludge at all MSNBC, including Rachel. Rachel's the BEST!! So screw those naysayers. 😁

🇺🇸

leftieNanner

(15,119 posts)
10. Rachel is one of the most important things keeping me sane right now
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:28 PM
Oct 2019

Well, that and wine.

I will be attending her book tour event in San Francisco on this Sunday night and I am beyond excited. I will report back next week. If you look at the tour schedule, it's brutal! She is a rock star!

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
14. Yes she's all that - and she's worked hard to earn her success too
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:59 PM
Oct 2019


I just thank God every day, that we have her to keep us sane.

kag

(4,079 posts)
45. You would be right at home in our house.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 07:11 AM
Oct 2019

Every night, sometime after her show has aired, the hubby and I fire up the DVR, and very often have a glass of wine in our hands when we do it. These days it's even champagne!

ancianita

(36,066 posts)
15. A great article that accurately shows Maddow, as Maddow is interpreted, and as she wants to be seen.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 12:59 PM
Oct 2019

I now understand how the history of connected dots is better information than the "official stories" of other networks.

I also appreciate her striving to learn from Roger Ailes, and what he knew about media power.

renate

(13,776 posts)
18. she sounds so nice... it must be exhausting to work so hard and then be welcoming to fans
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:18 PM
Oct 2019

I don't know how she does it, but I sure do appreciate it.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
25. She is!
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:25 PM
Oct 2019

A few years ago, I was bringing my daughter to the tiny airport terminal (shack is more like it) in Provincetown, Mass. While we were waiting for her group to be called to go through security, I saw a tall, short-haired gawky-looking woman with big black glasses approach the terminal. I thought, "she must think she's Rachel Maddow, or something."

Well, as it turned out, she had every right to think that, because she WAS Rachel Maddow. An elderly couple we had been chatting with turned out to be her parents, who were visiting her there for a fishing trip. She walked up to us and said, "Hi, I'm Rachel." Right, like we wouldn't have known!!! She is as smart and pleasant in person as she comes across on her show. That's the real Rachel Maddow.

renate

(13,776 posts)
27. Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:45 PM
Oct 2019

Omg! I’m plotzing over here!

That is SO COOL! Thanks for sharing that!

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
36. Cool story! Good to know she's a genuinely nice in person as she appears to be on the air
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 09:09 PM
Oct 2019

She's truly a national treasure.

TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
19. "staked her show on Trump"? I don't think so.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:27 PM
Oct 2019

She staked her show on reporting "what they do, not what they say". In addition to her intelligence, talent, skill, diligence, and ability to maintain a certain positive air, this is what made her show a winner.

Most people get really tired of listening to lies, spin, and BS. Her information is among the most reliable, if not the most reliable available.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
24. I agree
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:01 PM
Oct 2019

Her approach was and is genius.

And imagine the work and research that goes into her daily show by her entire staff. Where others just repeat the same headline in show after show With their favorite guests and pundits giving educated opinions, Rachel’s staff uses real research techniques to find entire stories and data to offer the audience a complete timeline of historically connected dots.

No one does that outside of documentaries. She bucked the system, probably knowing there was an audience out there who needed her specific kind of journalism. She was right. There are many of us who see the world as a continuum where things that happen today have their raison d’être in past happenings. It’s called seeing the whole picture.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
28. I was trying to describe LBC.co.uk's James O'Brien to my sister. "He's the UK's Rachel Maddow", no
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:14 PM
Oct 2019

higher compliment.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
39. I believe Lawrence O'Donnell is her equal
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 10:14 PM
Oct 2019

They are both so damn good, sometimes it's really hard for me to decide which one I like better.

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