Hope so, but I don't see it yet.

Good. She is clearly guilty as sin.

a crumb of justice.

Yes! Yes! Yes!

After that *wink wink nudge nudge find her innocent* Castle Doctrine nonsense from the judge, I expected the worst.

call me shocked.

because the jury knew he was in his castle eating ice-cream when he was shot - she faced no threat whatsoever.

Wanted that. As I posted yesterday. in my eyes it weakened her position rather than forming a path to acquittal

But the job of a defense attorney is to get their client acquitted or at least a conviction of lesser charges. Bringing up castle doctrine did not help that goal IMO.

I did like that one of the jurors asked what would have happened if Jean had shot her when she barged into his home. Unfortunately, defending your castle might be a limited defense for anyone who isn’t white.

They'll probably still appeal, but they won't be able to argue that the Castle Doctrine defense was denied to them.

didn't expect it, but glad to hear it. I thought they may have overcharged her a la casey anthony. plus it's TX.

Hope she gets the maximum. I watched part of the trial, mostly her testimony. She definitely deserves her fate. Botham Jean did not deserve his.

No real emotion, simply someone acting like an upset person.

Her lawyer made a mistake putting her on the stand.

"This is affecting me..."

I don't think they had a tape of her "testifying" like Zimmerman. The Texas Rangers missed that as part of their home cooking. I am actually shocked they didn't.

I still wonder if a male white police officer would have been convicted.

I don't know.

Even in a male-favored environment, there's still a bit more ... I dunno ... sympathy for the idea that a female would feel threatened by a strange male, whereas males are supposed to be more 'brave' and such, esp. a cop. Talking about the machismo culture of TX. She had a better chance of saying she feared for her life in that scenario and be believed on that point ... than a male cop would. At least that's my guess.

But sexism might've won out as well, hard to know.

I don’t know what kind of time she faces.

The make up of the jury was also important in this case.

was anything other than clean, she would have laughed her way to an easy acquittal, forget about the fake tears...

Sadly.

But not an unexpected outcome.

A tweet from last September

DJ Wade-O (@djwadeo) Tweeted:
Botham Jean leading worship. This is who Amber Guyger killed. https://t.co/NDv2zFoj1p

Link to tweet

I really hope she gets serious time.

I'm somewhat surprised by the verdict.

I'm surprised to see this, but for once it's surprised in a good way.

Woodward got life for causing the death of infant, Matthew Epping. On appeal, her charges were reduced to involuntary manslaughter. She went home to the UK after 279 days of "time served".

makes a compelling cautionary reminder to keep our expectations for justice in check. Good call.

Of all people, you would expect a police officer to have skill and expertise in the use of their weapon and know when and how to use it. You would think her training and experience would have caused her to show greater restraint and be able to assess her situation.

see's him in HIS apartment--and immediately draws her gun and shoots him? doesn't take in the environment that it isn't her apartment.

I never bought her story for one second. You KNOW what your place looks like.

What's the appeal process?

-- Mal

Did the prosecution give a motive? Did she know the guy?

to hurt her. I don’t think she knew him.

She was not paying attention. She was sexting with her DPD partner/lover. Parked on the wrong level in the garage. Went down the wrong hall. Went into the wrong apartment, which she thought was hers. Door was unlocked. She thought it was her own apartment and shot Jean.


Pure negligence from start to finish.

There was no viable defense.

I would have accepted whatever verdict they came up with. They're the ones who take an oath, view all the evidence, hear the arguments, weigh the applicable laws, and see all the human traits in a trial.

This BS of pulling a gun and shooting first without considering other options needs to stop.

She could face up to 99 years, for a few moments of confusion. Yes, someone is dead. And she should pay for her negligence. But to me "murder" should involve some kind of either premeditation, or a crime of passion. Fear for ones own safety is not a motive for murder.

I think its absurd that prosecuters even tried to argue about how she could not notice she was on the wrong floor, or have the wrong door mat. If that was the case, then she DID deliberately, for some bizzare reason, purposely go up one floor, and then coincidently the exact door that mirrors her own was open! All going to plan. So she enters HOPING to find Guyger, or any other innocent person, inside so she could shoot them when they came to answer it.

Or...she just could have thought she was at her own apartment, and being a police officer, and being a bit drunk with probably clouded her judgment, thought she could handle it. And when a shadowing figure, in "her" apartment, rushed at her, she did what she was trained to do.

Which one sounds more plausible?

Did she over-react? Not call back up instead? I guess. But this is in no way "murder". Its manslaughter at most. I'm as sickened by many about police killings. Especially white officers against black citizens. But its wrong to cheer an unfair verdict just to dish out a bit of schadenfreude for other cases that didn't go the right way.

She murdered the man, period. The circumstances of that murder will be determined at sentencing..

I haven't heard any of the trial details, but I do know that for murder you have to show intent. Had she ever met her neighbor? Did they have arguments that could have made her want to shoot him? I read it like this, she went out after work had a few drinks, came to what she thought was her apartment, and BLAM!

I thought she just got off work.

Not that it should make any difference.

(And that's coming from a non-believer).

I honestly was not expecting justice to prevail, and I'm very happy it did.

I hope this will give his family some sense of closure.

eating ice cream and she thinks he's in her apartment eating ice cream and, apparently, eating ice cream is such threatening behavior she killed him. He'd be alive and she wouldn't be going to prison if she'd just waited for backup to tell her she's a daffy woman and it's not her apartment in the first place.

Did the jury reject her story that she thought she was in her own apartment?