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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:18 PM Oct 2019

Seriously though, what the hell is going on in Rome? Are these assholes conspiring in plain sight?

First Barr.

Now Pompeo and "Doctor" Gorka.

No one knows exactly what these assholes are doing, other than reports that they might be soliciting the Italians (or somebody else) to get dirt to trash US Intelligence on Russian election interference.

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Seriously though, what the hell is going on in Rome? Are these assholes conspiring in plain sight? (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2019 OP
Kissing a few rings? nt woodsprite Oct 2019 #1
Isn't Newt's wife *helmet hairdo" an ambassador to the Vatican? Frustratedlady Oct 2019 #2
I am thinking Trump's ego is insistenting that Russian interference thing has to be smeared. Thomas Hurt Oct 2019 #3
I believe the point to Rachel's piece was that the sanctions we currently have on Russia TheRealNorth Oct 2019 #16
Exactly, but it feeds the amoral pig's ego too. He won fair and square and bigly. Thomas Hurt Oct 2019 #20
Shopping BruceWane Oct 2019 #4
Papadopoulos went to Rome on his drunken spree, didn't he? dawg day Oct 2019 #5
Oh, is that the connection? Thanks. Mike 03 Oct 2019 #9
Isnt Bannon MFM008 Oct 2019 #6
no connection whatsoever, but off topic, supposedly the JFK assassins librechik Oct 2019 #7
i've read that book dweller Oct 2019 #17
It's a book called The Devil's Chessboard by David Talbot. librechik Oct 2019 #19
i'm thinking of another dweller Oct 2019 #24
Opus Dei convention? backtoblue Oct 2019 #8
Hanging out with the fascist Catholic and Russian Orthodox crowd. hunter Oct 2019 #10
Isolated Tribe In Amazon Says Trump Pressured It To Investigate Democrats Hoyt Oct 2019 #11
ROFL! flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #14
+1 dalton99a Oct 2019 #25
why not theyre caught and they know it and they know there is little that can be done to stop them Fullduplexxx Oct 2019 #12
The timing is bizarre. Unannounced, they urgently go to Rome while impeachment inquiry in full swing flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #13
Manufacturing has severely declined in the US. Maybe they are going Mike 03 Oct 2019 #15
Conspiring, of course. moondust Oct 2019 #18
Yes, next question... Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #21
Russian aircraft on the ground when Barr was there. slater71 Oct 2019 #22
Yes onecaliberal Oct 2019 #23
It may not seem clear... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #26

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. Isn't Newt's wife *helmet hairdo" an ambassador to the Vatican?
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:23 PM
Oct 2019

Maybe they are meeting with her to give her an actual job to do...or, to Newt?

I noticed he has surfaced this week.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
3. I am thinking Trump's ego is insistenting that Russian interference thing has to be smeared.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:24 PM
Oct 2019

Rachel Maddow was talking about it last night. Fabricate an smear to destroy the intelligence community's position on Russia and then Trump can impress Putin.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
16. I believe the point to Rachel's piece was that the sanctions we currently have on Russia
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:53 PM
Oct 2019

Are on the premise that Russia interfered in our election. If Trump and his cronies can invent a cover story that exonerated Russia, then the sanctions go away, which makes Putin a happy dictator.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
20. Exactly, but it feeds the amoral pig's ego too. He won fair and square and bigly.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:08 PM
Oct 2019

As long as it might be the Russian interference it impugns Trump.

BruceWane

(345 posts)
4. Shopping
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:27 PM
Oct 2019

They're shopping for a willing accomplice to help manufacture the "evidence" they want. Probably offering a covert cut of Russian oil revenue that will result when sanctions are lifted following the "exoneration" of Russia.

Bonus percentage if accomplice is willing to "find" evidence that pins a "Russia hoax" conspiracy on the Democratic party.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
5. Papadopoulos went to Rome on his drunken spree, didn't he?
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:27 PM
Oct 2019

Mifsud, the "professor" he consorted with, met him there once, I seem to recall.

Connects with Trump's very recent demand that the Aussies (do whatever, implicate the FBI, Hillary, something?). It was to an Australian diplomat Papadopoulos drunkenly spewed all his secrets.

Think about it. Right this very moment, Barr might be trying to obstruct justice.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
9. Oh, is that the connection? Thanks.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:31 PM
Oct 2019

I was straining to remember some Italy/RussiaGate connection but couldn't.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
7. no connection whatsoever, but off topic, supposedly the JFK assassins
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:28 PM
Oct 2019

were hired by CIA through the Rome office. They have something going on there still.

Silly silly thoughts. Of course LHO was the lone assassin! I'm told. Right?

dweller

(23,641 posts)
17. i've read that book
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:57 PM
Oct 2019

a piece of fiction i'm racking my brain trying remember the title and author

🤔

✌🏼

librechik

(30,674 posts)
19. It's a book called The Devil's Chessboard by David Talbot.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:05 PM
Oct 2019

very enjoyable, like an exciting suspense novel, a pageturner. I think it's a nonfiction effort though.

dweller

(23,641 posts)
24. i'm thinking of another
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:47 PM
Oct 2019

i thought it was Elia Kazan novel, but no luck searching
i have a copy somewhere...

✌🏼

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
13. The timing is bizarre. Unannounced, they urgently go to Rome while impeachment inquiry in full swing
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:48 PM
Oct 2019

Who is so important in Rome that's SO urgent our embattled government leaders need to go to meet with them, right now?

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
15. Manufacturing has severely declined in the US. Maybe they are going
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:50 PM
Oct 2019

to Rome to manufacture some evidence.

moondust

(19,991 posts)
18. Conspiring, of course.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:57 PM
Oct 2019

Other countries have intelligence agencies that could be helpful to Trump in 2020. They just have to find the right contacts there. Maybe Salvini was far enough inside to make some contacts and would be glad to help out for a price.

slater71

(1,153 posts)
22. Russian aircraft on the ground when Barr was there.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:18 PM
Oct 2019

Someone following flights on his computer, had a russian government aircraft on the ground in Rome same time as Barr`s aircraft. Anyone else here anything about this?

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
26. It may not seem clear...
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 04:11 PM
Oct 2019

But Oligarchs are going to Oligarchy. It seems like we are also moving a few board game steps farther away from democracy all total.

Sometimes events can make that seem less transparent, no conspiracy theory intended. It is very possible that the shaking of the tree will reveal a few acorns here and there. The news is not so much about "fake" as it is selective, both in what is reported and, more importantly, what is not mentioned. Ah, who owns over 80% of the media, prey tell?

Like Carlin said, (I paraphrase) they have a club and we are not members. We aren't invited to attend. It is exclusive.

Does anyone think that the general population has access to all information concerning certain matters or even an approximation of what goes on in the backrooms? That would be naive.

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