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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,033 posts)
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:21 PM Oct 2019

Rudy Giuliani Laughs At Subpoena On Fox News: 'They Seem To Forget That I'm A Lawyer'

Just hours after being issued a subpoena from top congressional Democrats, Rudy Giuliani appeared on Fox News to defend his involvement with Ukraine, actions that have become central to an impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump.

Trump’s personal attorney appeared on Sean Hannity’s program as part of his latest effort to distance himself from the political whirlwind surrounding Trump’s July 25 call with the Ukrainian president.

During the “Hannity” segment, Giuliani appeared to question the motives behind the subpoenas while defending his communications with officials in Ukraine about investigating former Vice President Joe Biden, a top Trump rival in the 2020 presidential campaign. He also reminded viewers that he was a professional lawyer as he pushed unfounded conspiracy theories targeting a spate of his boss’s political rivals.

“These people are such intellectual heavyweights, I don’t know if I could handle Schiff,” Giuliani said Monday, appearing to joke about Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the chair of the House Intelligence Committee who recently sent him a subpoena.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/rudy-giuliani-fox-news-subpoenas-022445729.html

Hubris hasn't worked out so well for Trump so you might want to tone it down a bit Rudy.

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Rudy Giuliani Laughs At Subpoena On Fox News: 'They Seem To Forget That I'm A Lawyer' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 OP
No Rudy, they remember you are a lawyer. Doreen Oct 2019 #1
Ummm...yeah, hubris. Can we agree Backseat Driver Oct 2019 #2
So were Nixon, John Michell, John Dean, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #3
Until he gets disbarred, that is FakeNoose Oct 2019 #4
Laugh it up, Rudy. blogslut Oct 2019 #5
Criminal acts, including conspiracy, are not privileged, dipshit! RockRaven Oct 2019 #6
Please proceed Rudy.... TeamPooka Oct 2019 #7
I love it. lindysalsagal Oct 2019 #16
To be fair, Rudy, it is real easy to forget you're a lawyer. Mike 03 Oct 2019 #8
When I think of Rudy of think of the clown in IT. riversedge Oct 2019 #9
From Pompeo's reaction, it looks like they will continue to ignore Jarqui Oct 2019 #10
Fuck you, Rudy. I'm a cantaloupe. LuckyCharms Oct 2019 #11
We all did Rudy - we all did lame54 Oct 2019 #12
Not for long. Baitball Blogger Oct 2019 #13
Oh really, Rude One. area51 Oct 2019 #14
He seems to forget, so was Cohen! WhiteTara Oct 2019 #15
"I don't have to answer questions because I have a lawyer. My lawyer doesn't have to answer question lindysalsagal Oct 2019 #17
So was Michael Cohen. nt Flaleftist Oct 2019 #18
And yet...Rudy lawyered up MiniMe Oct 2019 #19
It's an easy mistake to make, Rudy.... lastlib Oct 2019 #20

Backseat Driver

(4,393 posts)
2. Ummm...yeah, hubris. Can we agree
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:32 PM
Oct 2019

that most Professional Codes of Ethics are just laughable these days and backed up by "legal beagles" that really don't have any. I know, for example, that claims against real estate brokers for misconduct have an extremely short reporting time period, essentially over before the victim knows what hit 'em. Good luck finding those who will fight again banking and insurance giants, corporate labor, or government shake-downs of low- to no income American citizens unless it will go mainstream high-profile.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
4. Until he gets disbarred, that is
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:37 PM
Oct 2019

.... and no Rudy, you can't handle Adam Schiff. You're a fool if you think you can.

RockRaven

(14,972 posts)
6. Criminal acts, including conspiracy, are not privileged, dipshit!
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:42 PM
Oct 2019

This almost as dumb as Jr claiming attorney-client privilege on a convo with Dump45 because there was a lawyer in the room. Schiff isn't going to let that slide like Mueller did.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
8. To be fair, Rudy, it is real easy to forget you're a lawyer.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:44 PM
Oct 2019

Of course lawyers are called to testify all the time. One of the funniest cross-examinations I've ever seen is when Yale Galanter had to testify regarding his defense of OJ Simpson in Simpson's armed robbery trial.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
10. From Pompeo's reaction, it looks like they will continue to ignore
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 02:00 PM
Oct 2019

the House subpoenas.

Explainer: How powerful are Congress subpoenas, contempt citations?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-congress-subpoena-explainer/explainer-how-powerful-are-congress-subpoenas-contempt-citations-idUSKCN1S81FP

What Can Congress Do If Flynn (Or Anyone Else) Refuses to Comply With a Subpoena?
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-can-congress-do-if-flynn-or-anyone-else-refuses-comply-subpoena

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/fining-william-barr-congresss-best-option/589798/

The criminal-contempt statute, passed in 1857, makes it a federal crime to defy congressional subpoenas. Congress has the option of asking the Justice Department to sue anyone held in contempt for violating this federal law. If Congress succeeds in obtaining a favorable judgment, the judge can order the contemner to be jailed or fined. But, not surprisingly, if the individual held in contempt is an executive-branch official, Justice will likely refuse to sue him or her—as it has in every case involving a federal official in the past 10 years.
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First, courts are hesitant to entertain disputes that involve a tug-of-war between two branches of the government. Second, litigating the matter in courts can be time-consuming in practice, so it’s not helpful when Congress’s main concern is expediting access to information. In the past, similar cases have dragged out in the courts for long enough that the requesting Congress and the incumbent administration’s terms both expired before reaching a resolution.


There does not seem to be definitive teeth for Congress to enforce it's subpoenas

Trump et al are lawless. They're not going to comply.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
17. "I don't have to answer questions because I have a lawyer. My lawyer doesn't have to answer question
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:36 PM
Oct 2019

questions because of client/presidential privilege."

They really think their circular reasoning will work.

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