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A complete lie about Biden and Ukraine. I know it's not illegal to lie in political ads but I hope the Dems have something to counteract this effectively.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)alwaysinasnit
(5,066 posts)New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964),[1] was a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that the freedom of speech protections in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution restrict the ability of American public officials to sue for defamation.[2] Specifically, it held that if a plaintiff in a defamation lawsuit is a public official or person running for public office, not only must he or she prove the normal elements of defamationpublication of a false defamatory statement to a third partyhe or she must also prove that the statement was made with "actual malice", meaning that the defendant either knew the statement was false or recklessly disregarded whether or not it was true.[3][4]
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,734 posts)But the text of the ad is vague enough with respect to him that they might be able to weasel out of a claim of defamation as to him. Since the target is Joe and not Hunter the really foul allegations are aimed at Joe.
musicblind
(4,484 posts)A limited public figure can include someone being prominently featured in a news story.
JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,909 posts)Then Benedict Donald approves this message.
spanone
(135,844 posts)He did the same thing to Hillary.
and Obama.
Then fox reports it as news.
There's truth in advertising. Should be truth in politics.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)This is the same ad that Trump has on his Twitter page. I chose not to post it here for what I am sure will be seen as "obvious reasons."
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)In gd.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)This false narrative stuff plays with his base but not far beyond that
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)These baseless attacks reek of desperation.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... drag Biden into the dirt Trump is in.
They're going to the point of making up crap now about him and his son, there's no there there.
blm
(113,065 posts)Via Ukraine. As if he and Giuliani are the heros who uncovered corruption.
Trumpworld expected Biden to be the nominee last spring, so they set about the business of manufacturing unethical behavior and corruption in the Ukraine. The whistleblower messed up their timing, so, now they have to defend themselves publicly by spreading their own narrative. The news media isnt helping them this time, so, not surprised they started running these ads to get their storyline against Biden out.
This isnt an electoral politics ad, this is a buy what were selling ad - and theyre selling their excuse to do Putins bidding reUkraine.
shanti
(21,675 posts)Wasn't aware that MSNBC showed his bs ads.
ooky
(8,924 posts)Any lie for the right mount of money.
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)TomSlick
(11,100 posts)What amazed me is that they paid to run the ad on MSNBC. Trump's campaign does know who watches MSNBC - right?
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)We are in a race against time to save this great experiment.
highplainsdem
(49,004 posts)Link to tweet
Why? Because he knows Ill beat him like a drum.
Goodheart
(5,327 posts)Few (if any) voters will believe it.