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kpete

(72,022 posts) Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:58 AM Oct 2019

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OMG the deep state got to Xi!

Global Times

“China will not interfere in the internal affairs of the US, and we trust that the American people will be able to sort out their own problems," China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi said.

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OMG the deep state got to Xi! (Original Post) kpete Oct 2019 OP

Trumps quid pro quo refused by China. Impeachment imminent. That should be the headline Captain Zero Oct 2019 #1

Why would China have any interest in helping that asshole? Blue_true Oct 2019 #31

If only our President respected our elections as much as our adversaries. dem4decades Oct 2019 #2

Uh, if you think our adversaries respect our elections I have an 8 year old hamburder to sell you. pangaia Oct 2019 #22

Let's just be happy they mind there own fucking business. rickyhall Oct 2019 #30

Don't know. I'm watching Sciutto on CNN now and he hasn't said anything new on Xi/China and Trump. highplainsdem Oct 2019 #3

Another... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #4

The Chinese know Trump is a fucking loser dalton99a Oct 2019 #5

Xi to greatest deal maker in the world: "Sit on this spike." nt NCjack Oct 2019 #6

China to Trump: "How do you like me now, Tariff King?" Baitball Blogger Oct 2019 #7

Xi's response may have been correct but. pangaia Oct 2019 #23

True. Baitball Blogger Oct 2019 #26

I wish they said the Republican party BootinUp Oct 2019 #8

If only. Everyone has to be oblique and non partisan. Both sides, you know. Ugh! rainin Oct 2019 #17

Even in this communique, they're talking about Taiwan, which they consider their "internal affair" Rainbow Droid Oct 2019 #9

YUP..... 94.6% Taiwan, 1.4% HK, and another 100% for the rest of CHINA. pangaia Oct 2019 #24

Yep. Another fight we dont get to engage in even on the best of terms for the best of reasons... Volaris Oct 2019 #35

This is a mess. I don't feel ecstatic Oct 2019 #10

Well if you trust the Chinese...They say one thing and do another. Kind of like Russia. Fla Dem Oct 2019 #11

The difference being the Chinese don't like Trump and his tariffs. The Chinese comradebillyboy Oct 2019 #12

Trump is looking like a loser!! blakstoneranger Oct 2019 #15

The Chinese will hedge their bets. Trump's demise is not guaranteed. Fla Dem Oct 2019 #16

I agree. They are pragmatic from centuries of cultural horning. Blue_true Oct 2019 #32

I doubt Russia is too thrilled with Trump either at this point Danascot Oct 2019 #28

You Would Expect China To Say This DallasNE Oct 2019 #13

Now This is Truly Embarrassing! blakstoneranger Oct 2019 #14

China is putting a lot of trust in the American people IronLionZion Oct 2019 #18

They want us to collectively damage ourselves as much as possible. Blue_true Oct 2019 #33

Tariffs will help IronLionZion Oct 2019 #34

You're correct on all points. Blue_true Oct 2019 #37

Oh snap!!! PatSeg Oct 2019 #19

That is what they say in public NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #20

Trust me, that statement does NOT come without a quid pro quo... pangaia Oct 2019 #21

Ain't that the truth... Volaris Oct 2019 #36

The Chinese are about as trustworthy as Trump is... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #25

Trump just got Art Of The Deal'd! Initech Oct 2019 #27

We should always trust the communist Chinese government! dchill Oct 2019 #29

They seem to be doing quite well making every damn thing you buy at Walmart. YOHABLO Oct 2019 #38

Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2019 #39

I'm sure that if they intended to ratf**k our elections, their Foreign Minister would announce it. Midnight Writer Oct 2019 #40

Xi is a skillful politician. Dumpster is a skullful thug.not hard to figure onetexan Oct 2019 #41

Captain Zero

(6,826 posts)

1. Trumps quid pro quo refused by China. Impeachment imminent. That should be the headline

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:02 AM

Oct 2019

Trump just impeached himself.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

31. Why would China have any interest in helping that asshole?

Reply to Captain Zero (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:28 PM

Oct 2019

I would even bet that China will be working it's ass off in 2020 to prevent Russia from helping him.

dem4decades

(11,304 posts)

2. If only our President respected our elections as much as our adversaries.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:03 AM

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)

22. Uh, if you think our adversaries respect our elections I have an 8 year old hamburder to sell you.

Reply to dem4decades (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 11:35 AM

Oct 2019

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)

30. Let's just be happy they mind there own fucking business.

Reply to pangaia (Reply #22)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:07 PM

Oct 2019

highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)

3. Don't know. I'm watching Sciutto on CNN now and he hasn't said anything new on Xi/China and Trump.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:06 AM

Oct 2019

I thought he'd start the hour with the news he was hinting at in that tweet.

Btw, thanks for the link!

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)

4. Another...

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:08 AM

Oct 2019

Another side effect of this is that, diplomatically, it is embarrassing.

Our tin pot dictator is making this country appear petty and moronic. That, in some ways, makes us appear weak and also vulnerable. We have a clown at the wheel, not a statesman. Sad!

dalton99a

(81,599 posts)

5. The Chinese know Trump is a fucking loser

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:08 AM

Oct 2019

NCjack

(10,279 posts)

6. Xi to greatest deal maker in the world: "Sit on this spike." nt

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:08 AM

Oct 2019

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)

7. China to Trump: "How do you like me now, Tariff King?"

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:27 AM

Oct 2019

We should be humbled. CIA was brutal in the affairs of other countries in the past. Xi's response is the correct one.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)

23. Xi's response may have been correct but.

Reply to Baitball Blogger (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 11:39 AM

Oct 2019

As I replied to dem4decades...

"Uh, if you think our adversaries respect our elections I have an 8 year old hamburder to sell you."

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)

26. True.

Reply to pangaia (Reply #23)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:09 PM

Oct 2019

BootinUp

(47,197 posts)

8. I wish they said the Republican party

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:31 AM

Oct 2019

Has to work out their problems.

rainin

(3,011 posts)

17. If only. Everyone has to be oblique and non partisan. Both sides, you know. Ugh!

Reply to BootinUp (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:04 AM

Oct 2019

Sometimes the truth is going to sound partisan. It's still the truth and we need courageous people to say that out loud.

Rainbow Droid

(722 posts)

9. Even in this communique, they're talking about Taiwan, which they consider their "internal affair"

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:33 AM

Oct 2019

That's the main point of this release. It has only marginally to do with Trump.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)

24. YUP..... 94.6% Taiwan, 1.4% HK, and another 100% for the rest of CHINA.

Reply to Rainbow Droid (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 11:40 AM

Oct 2019

Volaris

(10,274 posts)

35. Yep. Another fight we dont get to engage in even on the best of terms for the best of reasons...

Reply to Rainbow Droid (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:20 PM

Oct 2019

Because goddamnd Donald Fucking Trump.

ecstatic

(32,733 posts)

10. This is a mess. I don't feel

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:39 AM

Oct 2019

reassured by this. The statement itself is sort of meddling. Hopefully any additional meddling activities are focused on trump's ouster. And, yes, I'm fully aware of how desperate and hypocritical that sounds.

Fla Dem

(23,765 posts)

11. Well if you trust the Chinese...They say one thing and do another. Kind of like Russia.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:46 AM

Oct 2019

Putin says he had to tell Trump 'several times' that Russia did not interfere in US election
It was the first formal summit between the leaders of the nuclear armed powers

Andrew BuncombeNew York @AndrewBuncombe
Monday 16 July 2018 12:27

Speaking to reporters after a their first formal bilateral summit, the Russian said had been obliged to stress the point to Mr Trump several times, suggesting the US leader had pressed him on the issue. He said the meeting marked the first steps to restore “an acceptable level of trust and go back to previous level of interaction on all mutual interest issues”.

“(Trump) touched upon the theme of Russia's so-called meddling (in the 2016 US election). I had to repeat what I've said before, that the Russian state has never interfered and has no intention to interfere.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-putin-helsinki-summit-latest-us-election-russia-press-conference-a8449916.html

comradebillyboy

(10,176 posts)

12. The difference being the Chinese don't like Trump and his tariffs. The Chinese

Reply to Fla Dem (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:51 AM

Oct 2019

government might be unethical but they are very pragmatic. Trump is looking like a loser right now and Xi won't lash himself to the dead weight of the Dotard.

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)

15. Trump is looking like a loser!!

Reply to comradebillyboy (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:01 AM

Oct 2019

Dude we all look like losers. They're laughing at all of us!!

Fla Dem

(23,765 posts)

16. The Chinese will hedge their bets. Trump's demise is not guaranteed.

Reply to comradebillyboy (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:03 AM

Oct 2019

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

32. I agree. They are pragmatic from centuries of cultural horning.

Reply to Fla Dem (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:33 PM

Oct 2019

They also appear to be very insular, they won't do something unless doing so is 100% in their best interests.

Danascot

(4,694 posts)

28. I doubt Russia is too thrilled with Trump either at this point

Reply to comradebillyboy (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:38 PM

Oct 2019

More idiot; useful, not so much.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)

13. You Would Expect China To Say This

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:51 AM

Oct 2019

We still have to wait and see what China actually does. Our first clue may be any change regarding the Hong Kong demonstrations. Will the crack down get more harsh, for instance.

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)

14. Now This is Truly Embarrassing!

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:59 AM

Oct 2019

This president has made us look weak, disorganized, mismanaged, and very unprofessional. Trump makes us look like a 3rd world country, he makes us look stupid. This is truly an embarrassing time for all of us. SAVE AMERICA, DUMP TRUMP 2020!!

IronLionZion

(45,541 posts)

18. China is putting a lot of trust in the American people

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:05 AM

Oct 2019

to sort out our own problems. Our president and his enablers are the problem.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

33. They want us to collectively damage ourselves as much as possible.

Reply to IronLionZion (Reply #18)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:37 PM

Oct 2019

They really only care that we are able to continue buying their stuff as we suicide eachother.

IronLionZion

(45,541 posts)

34. Tariffs will help

Reply to Blue_true (Reply #33)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:20 PM

Oct 2019

us to pay more for their stuff without helping American companies who don't make that stuff.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

37. You're correct on all points.

Reply to IronLionZion (Reply #34)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:43 PM

Oct 2019

China is actually doing some innovative things, especially in the area of "green" packaging. The issue that an American business that is ethically run has doing business with a Chinese company is finding ones that are not tempted to take shortcuts to jack up their profits, sometimes very dangerous shortcuts.

PatSeg

(47,613 posts)

19. Oh snap!!!

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:16 AM

Oct 2019

The expletives must be flying in the White House right now.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)

20. That is what they say in public

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 10:24 AM

Oct 2019

who knows if they're cutting deals behind the scenes?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)

21. Trust me, that statement does NOT come without a quid pro quo...

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 11:34 AM

Oct 2019

Volaris

(10,274 posts)

36. Ain't that the truth...

Reply to pangaia (Reply #21)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:25 PM

Oct 2019

Hey, yeah hi there. Remember when we DIDNT fuck with your national sovergnity? Soooo...about that little 'issue' with Hong Kong..

Wounded Bear

(58,721 posts)

25. The Chinese are about as trustworthy as Trump is...

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 11:55 AM

Oct 2019

Watch what they do, not what they say.

Initech

(100,105 posts)

27. Trump just got Art Of The Deal'd!

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 12:15 PM

Oct 2019

dchill

(38,547 posts)

29. We should always trust the communist Chinese government!

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:36 PM

Oct 2019

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)

38. They seem to be doing quite well making every damn thing you buy at Walmart.

Reply to dchill (Reply #29)

Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:46 PM

Oct 2019

If people really wanted to hurt the Chinese they'd quit buying all the goods that are produced there. Everything we purchase is now made in China. Go figure.