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Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:02 AM Oct 2019

If you admit you committed a crime, the crime you commited is no longer illegal.

That is what Trump is trying to sell now.

Trump is like a serial killer who led police to field of all his buried bodies because he thought they would get tired for digging up so many bodies and just let him go

Then he's cries about how unfair it is continue pursuing him for his crimes, when they should instead be awarding him a medal for solving the crimes he committed instead.

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Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. So, then...
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:24 AM
Oct 2019

If we take it more broadly, he is putting the law of the land in serious jeopardy.

Suppose that this is about more than just what he did and the results? It is by no means a mere conspiracy theory to consider his agenda to be a methodical, seditious attempt to chip away at our entire political and economic system with an axe and thereby weaken and destroy it on several fronts. You could say, with serious face, that he and his minions are at war with the USA and you don't have to be paranoid to believe it.

If we don't take the Putin connection lightly, then I would think these contentions are justified. There is talk about Drumpf's money lust, but the power he may have been promised is probably more enticing. That motivation has been evident since he to over...I mean, took office. This is a serious betrayal of the oath of office at an even deeper level than the quid pro quo debacle.

Clear and present danger! Warning Will Robinson!

mwb970

(11,360 posts)
3. The doubling down in public on repeated impeachable offenses is what gets me.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:02 AM
Oct 2019

trump is like a schoolchild who steals the principal's car in broad daylight to prove that it was OK when he stole that other kid's bike last week.

kimbutgar

(21,157 posts)
4. I was watching one of those murder mystery shows on investigation discovery
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:20 AM
Oct 2019

And the host was talking about this person who thought they could get away with a murder and she used the word grandiose meaning “to inflated pretension or absurd exaggeration. I immediately thought this was a perfect word for MF45 how he talks about everything. This even applies to how he denies then says “ well yes I did it and there’s nothing you can do to stop me”.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
5. Exactly. He is actually using the Mueller investigation as evidence that his coordination
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:20 AM
Oct 2019

with Russia to interfere with the 2016 election was a legitimate thing to do. It's so frigging obvious that every day he isn't held to account gets added to his pile of BS proof that he is acting within the law and those who question it are criminally undermining his so-called presidency.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
8. Of course he hasn't. He doesn't know anything
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:47 AM
Oct 2019

about the law, either. His idea of ok is just whatever he wants to do at the moment. Winning at any cost is all he goes by.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
11. His entire existence is based on television
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:21 AM
Oct 2019

Unless someone discusses the constitution on TV it does not exist in his mind.

I've personally never met anyone as messed up as Trump is in real life. All the narcissistic idiots I know at least speak to their family now and then, all Trump cares about is watching himself being discussed on television or Twitter.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
13. That's what I've been saying all week. And Democrats should point this out.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:42 AM
Oct 2019

As I posted recently:

Trump is not trying to self-impeach as someone suggested. He's trying to control the narrative. He's trying to make people think, "If it's out in the open, it must not be wrong." If Democratic leadership doesn't pounce on that shit, Trump's attempt to control the narrative will be successful.

And Dems shouldn't just say that what he's saying and doing is wrong. Point out to the American public that what Trump is doing is a strategy, that he's trying to normalize his criminality, that he's trying to say, "If I'm open about collusion, then collusion is not a crime." Because as obvious as his strategy is to some, I guarantee you that most need to have it explained to them. If you can get the public to recognize the tactic as a tactic, you'll be more likely to succeed in getting the public to dismiss Trump's obfuscation.

As soon as he does something like publicly ask a foreign government for election help, hold a press conference to condemn him *and* make clear that he's employing a strategy that people should recognize for what it is.

When the likes of Kellyanne Conway Gish Gallop all over the TV, give a quick and easy-to-understand definition of Gish Gallop. The whole point of the Gish Gallop is to keep your opponent from being able to address all of the bullshit, and it works, especially when you only have a couple minutes to respond. So, just read the definition of Gish Gallop, say that Kellyanne or whoever is doing just that, and that you aren't going to play her game. When she's ready to join the rest of us in our fact-based reality, we can have an honest discussion.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
14. Yep, Trump's Presidency has been a boiling frog experiment from Day One
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:50 AM
Oct 2019

Even Trump is surprised at how much he's been able to get away with by chipping away at law, order, morality, ethics and decency, one Tweet at a time.

He knew is Presidency was over on May 17, 2017 when he said "This Is the End of My Presidency. I'm Fucked,"


... except it wasn't over, nobody was willing to do anything about his criminality, so he just keep pushing it further and further, and he will not stop until someone stops him. He's compulsive criminal.

Talitha

(6,593 posts)
15. "If you admit you committed a crime, the crime you commited is no longer illegal"
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:55 AM
Oct 2019

Liddle' Donnie isn't smart enough to have thought this up on his own... this is straight out of Putin's playbook.

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