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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:34 AM Oct 2019

All the Democrats have to do now is to dot the i and cross the t in impeachment.

The hard work is done. They found the smoking gun evidence that is impossible to defend. Trump is guilty.

All they have to do now is wrap up all the evidence, put a bow on it and send it to the Senate with this hidden message.

We dare you to vote against this evidence.

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All the Democrats have to do now is to dot the i and cross the t in impeachment. (Original Post) shockey80 Oct 2019 OP
I'm feeling much more optimistic now that a second whistleblower may come forward. Mike 03 Oct 2019 #1
Too bad... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #2
Very valid legal claim yes. Senate political vote w/o constituent approval, not happen. empedocles Oct 2019 #3
need heaings with witnesses under oath, or held in contempt, jailed and fined, this has beachbumbob Oct 2019 #4
It's long been obvious to trumpsters to get Impeachiment out of the way, before empedocles Oct 2019 #5
HE CONFESSED. Iwasthere Oct 2019 #6
How can that be? He is a stable genius. Lol! shockey80 Oct 2019 #7

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. I'm feeling much more optimistic now that a second whistleblower may come forward.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:38 AM
Oct 2019

There could even be a race to come forward. Between whistleblowers and Inspector Generals, there's no way for the DOJ to stop this now.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. Too bad...
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:39 AM
Oct 2019

If the Republitrumps were truly patriotic and took their oaths of office seriously, we wouldn't have to be too concerned about their response to this. It would be a matter of fact.

These are times that reveal and test loyalty and fidelity to this democracy and the Republic. This is more of a crucible than they may even realize, due to their contradictory concerns. It is pivotal.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
3. Very valid legal claim yes. Senate political vote w/o constituent approval, not happen.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:41 AM
Oct 2019

Effectively getting rid of trump, requires broad political consensus in the political Constitutional impeachment process design.

The process is working. Not ideal, but such contested political processes are rooted in realism - not idealism.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
4. need heaings with witnesses under oath, or held in contempt, jailed and fined, this has
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:49 AM
Oct 2019

a month or 2 at least, perhaps until Xmas as turmp/gop will appeal in federal court. And depending on how far the House Leadership want to go. To me, its all in, this is the one and only chance. That gotta use every bit of power they have under the constitution and House rules.

Send the Sgt of Arms, forcefully detain, etc

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
5. It's long been obvious to trumpsters to get Impeachiment out of the way, before
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:54 AM
Oct 2019

the political tide turns even more strongly against trump. trump is not taunting the Impeachment Now crowd to try and pressure the Speaker to not maximize the tide in the Dem's favor.

Political, culture change takes time. Impeachment Now is trump's best hope.

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