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still_one

(92,219 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:25 AM Oct 2019

It is obvious that trump and the republicans strategy is to try and make this about the Democrats,

and how successful they will be depends on the media coverage, and the ability of the Democrats to stop the lies in there tracks before they take hold



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It is obvious that trump and the republicans strategy is to try and make this about the Democrats, (Original Post) still_one Oct 2019 OP
I'm pretty sure the Democrats got this . . . Iliyah Oct 2019 #1
The Democrats have to be united and with one voice on this one still_one Oct 2019 #2
for a change, democrats will need to go after the media who are collaborating with GOP/Trump beachbumbob Oct 2019 #3
I am not sure about going after the media per set, but responding to lies and distortions quickly still_one Oct 2019 #5
like this Chuck Tood been allowed to say about anything without challenge for a few years beachbumbob Oct 2019 #6
I agree still_one Oct 2019 #7
I think that... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #4

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. I'm pretty sure the Democrats got this . . .
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:29 AM
Oct 2019

Republicans are not patriots and right now that is a known fact. Party before country coupled with greed, hatred, and a fucked up religion.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
3. for a change, democrats will need to go after the media who are collaborating with GOP/Trump
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:35 AM
Oct 2019

no more high fricken road

still_one

(92,219 posts)
5. I am not sure about going after the media per set, but responding to lies and distortions quickly
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:37 AM
Oct 2019

and forcefully is the way to do it

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
6. like this Chuck Tood been allowed to say about anything without challenge for a few years
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:48 AM
Oct 2019

by democrats on his show(s). When a media "personality" is passing on falsehoods they need to corrected then and hard.

no more high road, period. Media are NO friends to democrats. We have seen that for years

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. I think that...
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:37 AM
Oct 2019

Much of the success they will have revolves around loyalty. We have jumped the guardrails when it comes to arguing facts, law or truth when it comes to the devotion and loyalty of his followers, be they ordinary people or political figures.

It is almost a waste of time to argue with people who have, in one way or another, pledged their allegiance to Trump and those in the GOP who refuse to honor and respect their oath of office and uphold the law of the land as spelled out in the Constitution.

What is do a mobster and an authoritarian, Fascist dictator have in common? Loyalty first and foremost, above and beyond anything else. That kind of blind allegiance to a personage can make people feel they are sacrificing things for a cause rather than losing the shirt off their backs. That's one of the reasons this does not seem to make sense to us; we are not factoring that in and it is the most important issue and pivotal to how this goes.

With that in mind, how do you deal with that kind of loyalty, especially when it can foment and support a seditious view and behavior that threatens our whole system right now?

That's the place to focus and what to think about and strategize on. The rest is academic and hopefully, we can return to that kind of basis soon.

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