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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:57 AM Oct 2019

Does anyone actually think...

that illegitimate and the rest of his cabal really believe any of the crap they are peddling? I don't!! They know what happened in 2016, they know that illegitimate conspired with russia, among others, they also know that there has been a massive cover-up going on and is continuing. It is being reported as if they are genuinely trying to find some nonexistent facts. The press must do a much better job in undermining all this BS!!

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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. Right. There's mounting evidence they know the conspiracy theories are bogus
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:01 PM
Oct 2019

and were warned off of them by career diplomats. The media has to stop implying that there is any doubt, or that facts might be uncovered, etc...

This is why I think the Bidens should sue: because you have to prove the people who defamed you knew it was false. And public figures are protected, too.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
2. I saw some RNC spokeswoman on CNN--
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:03 PM
Oct 2019

and she kept saying, "We have to investigate corruption!"
No matter what was asked, even asked about Romney's criticism and Trump's nasty little ad hominem insulting response. That's going to be their thing... appealing to the rightwinger "disgust" instinct. (Rightwingers supposedly have a higher tendency to feel disgust, which affects their attitude towards anyone different from them-- and things like Trump's disgust that Hillary Clinton might pee -- really-- while, of course, presumably, he does too.)

So "corruption, rot, filth, infestation"-- those are all the things they want people to take away.

But it's not working, because all the bad news keeps coming against Trump.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
3. To them "the ends justify the means" is a code of survival.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:22 PM
Oct 2019

What are they trying to survive? I think it's the demise of their fantasies of domination. That can cover a pretty wide field.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
4. I pretty much agree, but a lie repeated often enough can take hold in the mind of the liar.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 03:48 PM
Oct 2019

It's entirely possible that Trump and some others truly believe a portion of the nonsense they spew.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
5. What press conveys won't matter, if this prez wins through internal and foreign rigging in 2020.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 03:56 PM
Oct 2019

I bring up worse case scenario because it's worth considering.

We might not, after 2020, see another valid election again, either at federal or state levels.

Rule of law will be out the window, used only to outspend The People in court, yet court battles will be all The People have left.

Executive order with congressional Republican rubberstamping will be the rule of government.

Those of The People who resist the new government -- which will simply run a global corporate campus -- will be labeled "terrorist," and purgings, or "law enforcement," violent or otherwise, will stamp out entities who try to reinstate democratic process.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
7. Knowing what you and the rest of us know won't be enough to remove him. We'll see what does.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:33 PM
Oct 2019

If anything.

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