Clueless, ruthless, guiltless, heartless, steaming pile of mess.

Had to double check that this WASN'T the Onion....

How sad when you can't tell the diff anymore!

As my Idol, Oscar Wilde once said: Life imitates Art far more than Art imitates Life. I'm sure there's a paraphrase in there somewhere!

because of the way HE responded to hurricane flooding in Wilkes-Barre PA.

Flooding triggers some flaw in the Romney-bot software:

http://www.timesleader.com/stories/Romneys-fathers-visit-in-72-didnt-go-so-well,133665#ixzz25Pxhq0CR

clueless clueless clueless.....GAH!!!!

Or make that three, some of the sons of Romney don't seem so bright either.

to "go home and call 211" to get assistance.

And the media refuses to stop propping this guy up.

...means we tilt the field when a taco runs against a statesman for President of the United States.

Instead of turning to GOVERNOR Jindahl and asking what could be done to help her, he basically said, "GO AWAY, can't you see I'm campaigning." Husband said he at least could have asked one of his staff for a phone so she could call while he was there. And shows what an ash wipe Jindahl is.

Two cold, mean politicians.

What a clue-less dumb-ass.
I'm at a loss for words...speechless.

to the point where the outgassed volatile components were held in an atmosphere of sufficient pressure for the stabilization and retention of liquid water.

Also it is theorized that comets from the outer reaches of the main asteroid belt colliding with the Earth may have brought water to the world's oceans, among several other theories.

Honestly, it sounds like a question a child would ask, like "why is the sky blue, Daddy? or "where do babies come from?""

Mittens..did you ever take ANY of the sciences classes? Like some basic biology or maybe physics?
You surely studied astronomy though, so you could find out where Kolob is.
Idiot...how do you remember to breathe?

he was too stupid to run any company and was simply a mindless puppet the Mormon Mafia set up for money laundering.

Reagan
Shrub
Then they ran, and lost, McCain
Mitt is in the same league..measures wet on the IQ scale.

At Bain, "success" was measured by money brought into the company. Period. Didn't matter how they got it, didn't matter who they stuck with the bill, didn't matter how many lives they threw to the wolves, the numbers (and just one particular number: profit) were everything.

Anyone paying any attention to what happened during Katrina got a basic primer on flooding hazards in NO and in that region of Louisiana. Obviously he had other priorities than paying a modicum of attention to national affairs, this man who wants to be president.

You know, that save the planet stuff.

In that area, you might want to know if it was tidal surge, river flooding, levee failure or all the above.

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A serious person wouldn't say

They would say "was it run off from the rain, rivers that overflowed their banks or from high tides that swamped the dikes."


Its sounds like "Oh children look at the choo choo train" when the kids are in their twenties.

The phrasing was peculiar for an adult unless he was addressing children. "Fall from the sky?"

trees that are "the right height".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021240887

'The President's main job is to communicate to and for the American people.


Putting aside all of the policy issues his very odd phrasing and unscripted comments are in fact a major issue.

Imagine him as President and every day mangling the most basic statements like instead of saying 'rain' saying water from the sky.

Like Bushisms (which I would argue were not as bad) they detract from an effective Presidency and while great for SNL undercut the ability of the President to govern effectively.

But those are just some words on the subject that came into my brain that ended up coming through my vocal chords which I modulated at the right decibel level.

Sloppy as any liberal out there.

tsk tsk.

Focus on the heartless, brain-dead, very revealing comment by Romney that "disaster relief is immoral".

We had fun with Bushisms, lots of fun, but like Romney, there was much more important stuff to drill into the heads of the undecided.

If you try to push the idea that Romney occasionally has an inartful phrasing, you'll get a bunch of "meh". But show just how cold-hearted money-driven Romney is, and you'll get some lightbulbs turning on.

both sides are similar and you stepped up in it.

Obama doesn't 'slip up' in the way that you infer and he didn't look at business leaders and tell them they didn't build their businesses he told them that they didn't build the bridges and the schools and everything else that is essential for their businesses to operate.

It only became a 'gaffe' when FOX news edited it out and took words out.

Marshall McLuhan famously said that "The medium is the Message" and it expressed the fact that how you communicate actually communicates what you think.

Romney's continued odd ball way of communicating is not just a poor choice of words, it reflects an odd view of the world. He cannot empathize with what other people are dealing with in a real way and can only tell a poor woman to go home and make a phone call as a solution to her problems from Isaac.

There is no point on continuing on the issue but if you want to learn more about the inherent sybiotic quality of medium and message go here;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_medium_is_the_message

I will say that the fact that you think that there is any kind of similarity between President Obama and Romney on how they communicate their message leaves my brain vacant of an immediate response to send an approprate nuerological response to the vocabulary part of my brain there by accessing a number of words of the appropriate length that could be compiled into a sentence and that absence renders my ability to render a verbal response moot.

(on edit amplified remarks about the woman)

That's exactly backwards. I'm saying Obama cares and Romney is heartless. They could not be more different.

All politicians make verbal slips. Everybody tries to read a little too much into them. When Obama said "you didn't build that", it did not reveal a hidden Marxist agenda like the T's and R's would like you to think it does. Similarly, when Romney inartfully asks about the root cause of the flooding inartfully, it doesn't reveal much.

What does reveal a lot is when Romney directly, clearly, unequivocally says disaster relief is immoral in a time of corporate-rescue government deficits.


Agreed.


Nah. It was inartful wording. It is small potatoes compared to Romney plainly telling flood victims in 2011 that disaster relief is immoral.


Actually, he wrote "Massage", but your point is partly correct. It was more that the medium used has a much more dramatic effects on the message than commonly supposed. Radio is a hot medium and TV is a cold one. Radio requires the listener to build mental images and TV / YouTube spoon feeds the viewer.

Justice Powell and later Newt Gingrich took notes and established think tanks to develop language guides to frame issues. George Lakoff has striven to do the same for Democrats and Progressives, but doesn't get the attention he deserves.


Of course! But the OP doesn't talk about that and neither are we! You can suddenly introduce the woman now late in the discussion, but that only makes my point. What Romney said to the woman was direct and heartless. It is the kind of thing that needs to be highlighted. That is much more revealing.

The OP and this thread and the thread title and the picture and the article the picture captures are all about Romney's statement about the water. To explain to an undecided that his inartful question had a real question behind it but if you read between the lines you can detect a distance, a remove, that Romney has from the struggles of ordinary people, ... well that requires a lot of words and connecting the dots for the reader / listener.

You don't need to connect the dots for anybody when Romney says "disaster relief is immoral" but corporate relief is not, or when he tells a homeless victim to "go home".


Thank you, but I've seen McLuhan speak in the 70s and I read his books around the time they came out in the late sixties.


No. You could not have that more wrong. Obama cares and says it. Romney directly in plain speech communicates his heartlessness. Is that clear enough for you? Capiche?


That means you are at a loss for words.

I am not, and neither is Obama.

Don't you EVER speak for me.

Grantcart's wife does all my talking.

Grantcart's dog, his wife and his fucking Yugo that is.

(By the way, Grantcart - - the Yugo failed DEA, or EPA or whatever the fuck you call it here in the Emerald Empire, and those nice young men want to "Find the registered owner for a little quality facetime" really pressured me for your address and I held out heroically against their unpleasantness until they brought out the cheezeburgers and the cat and I ratted you out faster than your better half snags those great 'Home Shopping Network' deals.

It was epic. They ought to be at your place any time now. Gotta go, the UPS dude is here with my new gnome cannibal figurines.)

Altho in all probability, more than one member of the LGBT community was swamped.

Jesus, that's funny...I just got it...

the imagery of that particular word mixup IS a bit unsettling to the mind, indeed.

like you just did.

The way it was phrased was stupid - of course, everything he says sounds awkward and just wrong - but it does seem a legitimate question.

phrasing. He certainly has the money. This bespeaks a kind of arrogance that he can do no wrong and no one can advise him. With his resources he could "buy the best" of campaign consultants. So why doesn't he?

Without that feedback, he has no clue what is normal behavior in society.

you would ask that question...not "where did the water come from"..

Apparently, he's nothing more than just Dumbya-lite.

You know, the stuff people do when they don't try to lie, cheat and steal their way to the top?

You ever hear of "google," Mitt? Anyone on your staff? Maybe Clint Eastwood could give you a lesson - movie directors and actors need to a little bit before performing.

That's almost as bad as the Jindal-Entergy show - oh, are we really going to have power outages and water problems? But it's such a little storm - just move along. We'll get everything fixed, at some point.

Idiots.

to do research, gather intelligence/facts for you so you don't make an ass out of yourself.
THIS guy is college educated, was a Governor...
Governor Sir: "big storm come, have much wind and rain...rain fall down..creeks and rivers rise..big mess."
I'm thinking there is something "wrong" with Williard..seriously.

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Romney was simply asking which it was and attempting to be a bit artful about it and comes off as a doufus.

However, there are much more revealing statements of his that deserve much more attention than the remarks highlighted in this thread.

In 2011, Rmoney said that giving out Federal disaster assistance was immoral in a time of high deficits. Those high deficits were caused by propping up corporations who needed disaster assistance after the Bush catastrophe.

Much more at this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021240887

This one needs to be skyhooked for real - promulgated on a slew of ads. Shows again how compassion-less he is.

yes.

standing right there by Bobby Jindal, I would have thought it a joke.

My first thoughts were, yes, he is asking a legitimate question, albeit worded crazy. However, if he really wanted to learn, all he had to do was listen to the news or go online since the coverage of HOW (huge storm surge and massive rain). And it's not like he didn't know that Issac was close and stirring up trouble since it affected HIS convention. My question to Romney is: Why are you just now asking where all this water came from and how would you have helped the people immediately affected by the flood waters if you had been president, since this is all "new" news to you?

Goes to show he doesn't know what's going on in the real world.

jackass!!

That's what Ryan is for--string pulling. Whatever they're holding over Mittens Rmoney's head has to be huge, or he's just very stupid and very lucky. Good thing his Dad was rich, because I have a sense that if he had to work his way up from the bottom, he'd still be there. He's a self-entitled jackass and he should pull another wife out of his closet, because this one can't seem to keep her mouth shut unless she's reading from a scripted speech. How embarrassing for this country they both are. Can't he even get one of his sons to enlist?

Oh, my goodness. He's more stupid than he looks.

"$200 million, that's great. So where'd all this come from? The carried interest, the management fee conversions, or the total-return swaps?"

The coast was affected by the Gulf, we here on the North Shore flooded by Lake Ponchartrain plus we got over 20 inches of rain, the West Bank flooded from the Mississippi River, and my sister evacuated yesterday doe to lock failure on the Pearl River. So where did the water come from? Everywhere! Do you freaking homework and look at a map!

didn't it ALL come from the rain - that fell into the ocean which flowed into the river and swelled it which then broke through barriers - that caused the flooding? He couldn't figure that out for himself?

blowing the waters into the lake and river (the Mississippi River ran backwards for 3 hours). That why I said look at a map, see all the water that normally is here, then add thousands of gallons. What an idiotic question!


Edited to add: The swamp also overflowed half a mile from my subdivision. We were very lucky this time.

and I would give him a six year old level answer ... yes

And just about half of the USA wants this guy to take the job of most powerful man on earth.

Was that Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin dressed up like Romney?

OMG-Sarah Palin is Mitt Romney!!!!! LOL!

The more he talks,the places he visits,I think he is energizing our Democratic base.

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there is a chance that we could have this guy as our President.


I am fairly sure he will lose but the downside is so large that even that slight possibility of his winning bothers me.

We're going to need higher levees.

have to ask that stupid question

The question makes no sense if he has any common sense, therefore he has no common sense.

There. Processed.

I still don't believe this. It's a joke. It has to be. No one I mean no one is this stupid. It isn't possible. He would be on a soft food diet or on an IV one. He has to be doing this on purpose. I think he is trying to lower the bar for himself for the debates. I repeat there is no way he can be this stupid.

They tend to bring wind, waves, tidal surges, and lots of rain..... The water came from all directions, those hurricane things are just like that. At one point it will come from the south, at another from the east, then the perhaps the north and the west. It is often moving pretty fast and seems horizontal. Occasionally the rain will have large hard objects mixed in it. Occasionally the water even comes bubbling up from below....

It is like Wet and Wild, but alot less fun.

"Governor, we're going over to XXX to see the flooding caused /when the levee was overtopped/ the river flooded/due to the storm surge"

His question was the equivalent of getting off a plane and asking "Now, which state is this ?"

. . a month away.

Who the hell am I kidding?

I would like to see "The Daily Show" dub in a laugh track to Romney's answers.

...amid a scene of downed trees, high water and National Guard troops.

Is government one of those other organizations Bobby?