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Attorney for Botham Jeans Family: Neighbor Who Testified Against Amber Guyger Shot and Killed in Dallas
Joshua Brown, the next door neighbor of Botham Jean, was shot and killed late Friday night in Dallas, Texas, an attorney for Jeans family said. Brown recently testified for the prosecution in the murder trial of former Dallas cop Amber Guyger.
According to the Dallas Morning News, officers arrived on the scene at around 10:30 p.m. to the Atera apartments located at the 4600 block of Cedar Springs Road in Dallas Turtle Creek neighborhood.
Per that report:
Police found a man on the ground with multiple gunshot wounds. He was taken to Parkland Memorial Hospital, where he died from his injuries.
Witnesses told police they heard several gunshots and saw a silver four-door sedan speeding out of the parking lot.
The Dallas Police Department (DPD) has yet to release information about the victim or the suspect. But attorneys with knowledge of the case and Browns family confirmed Browns identity via social media on Saturday afternoon.
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/neighbor-of-botham-jean-who-testified-against-amber-guyger-reportedly-shot-and-killed-in-dallas/
dawg day
(7,947 posts)But that's a big coincidence.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)dlk
(11,567 posts)The hatred from racial animosity is poisoning our country.
hlthe2b
(102,289 posts)"vengeance" consequence for his testimony.
Devastating.
barbtries
(28,798 posts)it was probably committed by LEO.
it's tragic that's for sure. I hope there is no connection.
malaise
(269,040 posts)History will absolve me - this was an assassination.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)up the road from million dollar homes..he was murdered..
malaise
(269,040 posts)By the way that was my first thought.
malaise
(269,040 posts)How interesting
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)when they want to send a message
malaise
(269,040 posts)Don't you dare speak
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)malaise
(269,040 posts)Damn!
cwydro
(51,308 posts)He was shot last year at a bar too, and was supposed to testify against the shooter.
I had a feeling this was going to happen, but as usual, DU jumps to conclusions. Sigh.
malaise
(269,040 posts)This is nice and neat
cwydro
(51,308 posts)No, that never happens.
So much more cheerful to believe the cops are out assassinating citizens.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)It would be interesting to see what caliber he was shot with. Service weapons?
Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that solving this just won't be put at any high priority level?
Sinistrous
(4,249 posts)1.) Joshua Brown's testimony helped put an ex-cop in prison.
2.) Amber Guyger is white.
3.) Joshua Brown was black.
malaise
(269,040 posts)Highly suspicious
patphil
(6,180 posts)Some of the "dirty" cops keep throw-away guns for situations like this, or when they want to plant a gun on a dead suspect.
Not saying this was the case, but don't expect the bullet to lead back to a police issue gun.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)the perpetrators would have to be among the stupidest criminals alive if they used an easily traceable weapon.
Still......We are possibly talking about a revenge killing here, so who knows.
Not to mention if it is true this was dirty cops, the cops will be investigating the cops! So again, I don't hold much hope for an accurate, much less swift resolution.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Any gun the cops use are also common and available to the civilian market, so knowing it was a Glock doesn't really narrow it down, unless they have ballistics data on all the police-issued guns and start comparing bullets.
A very large percentage of semi-auto pistols sold are either 9mm, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP, which are the most common police service cartridges, so those are not distinctive in any way.
It's possible the DPD might use a type of ammo that is law enforcement specific, so that is a potential source of useful evidence.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Joshua Brown was a drug dealer, he was carrying a gun, and he shot first.
He was also shot in a bar last year. Have you been shot? Probably not, and me neither. This guy lived a dangerous life.
Live by the gun, die by the gun.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)Glad to see a quick resolution.
It's also good to know that this wasn't what it looked like it COULD have been.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I would think if you didnt want a witness to testify, youd kill him BEFORE the court date.
brush
(53,784 posts)Time to ge out of there.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)brush
(53,784 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)He was shot in the mouth.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)It was tweeted by the attorney
https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/joshua-brown-shooting/
brush
(53,784 posts)My guess it was rogue cops of someone connected to cops. What a sick mess. They wanted that murderer to get off.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I guess everyone has decided to ignore the fact they have two in custody and one theyre looking for.
Dont let the truth get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.
blm
(113,063 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)somehow I hear the words, "vengence is mine" growling in the background. Grandstanding of ideology in such a volatile case can be like pouring salt on the wound of a vengeful mind. Stupidity sometimes is soul deep.
a kennedy
(29,672 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)Sick!
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)I can't help but think of what we used to call police in the '60s.
But I wouldn't say it any more than I'd say the N-word.
marble falls
(57,099 posts)sheshe2
(83,786 posts)bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)They just do NOT care!
There are---or should be---NO consequences
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I remember the same in the thread about the little girl who reported her dreads being cut.
Why cant we wait and see what happens?
ZZenith
(4,123 posts)What do you expect when a man is murdered immediately after testifying against a crooked cop?! Fer chrissake, dont you think it more unlikely that he was the victim of a random act of violence?
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Someone has legitimately been murdered.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Sorry, Ive seen this kind of thing before on DU.
Shooters immediately assumed to be white MAGA males, only to find out they werent. This has happened many times.
I just hate seeing this before facts are known.
brush
(53,784 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Do we?
ZZenith
(4,123 posts)A man who just testified against a racist cop who got put away for a racist murder got murdered.
Thats what happened.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)who shot him in a nightclub last year. So things really are not quite as cut and dried as we might think.
ZZenith
(4,123 posts)In the case brought by Botham Jeans family.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)a drug deal gone wrong.
So there ya go.
ZZenith
(4,123 posts)Too funny.
ZZenith
(4,123 posts)You have centuries of historical precedent and suddenly everyone around here is shocked when people dont take the cops word as gospel.
Funny if it werent so fucking sad.
Do you think the good-ole-boy network is a figment of our imagination?
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)What is also not funny is silly conspiracy theories. This young man was shot last year by another young man. That is not funny either.
Two men have been arrested for this murder. Why is it so hard for you to admit you were wrong? I see nothing funny.
ZZenith
(4,123 posts)I have no problem admitting I am wrong once I have actually been proven wrong. What I really have a problem with is those who try to chastise anyone skeptical of the police when something smells rotten, as though we must be out of our minds to even suggest the police could do something that awful. Every single day in this country some cop somewhere is railroading or beating or killing a person of color simply because of their color and they are getting away with it because of the blue line. Its a huge problem but not everyone is aware of it.
treestar
(82,383 posts)His testimony from the trial is taken down and could be used in that event.
ZZenith
(4,123 posts)brush
(53,784 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Trashing this thread.
As usual, DU jumps to a conclusion, which is proved wrong, but people will twist themselves into pretzels just to justify some conspiracy theory they desperately want to believe.
And in that case, the girl had actually made the claim. This is just a knee jerk conclusion.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)dalton99a
(81,515 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Killed while selling drugs to some criminals.
He was carrying too, and he even was the one who shot first.
Funny how no one cares about this guy now the truth has come out. Smh.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Dawson Leery
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WhiskeyGrinder
(22,356 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Of course, Brown was the dealer; they just came to buy.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Why am I not surprised?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Drug deal shooting.
Falcata
(156 posts)of getting shot wouldn't it?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Apparently he was the one selling. He also shot first when the fight began.
This guy was no angel.
snowybirdie
(5,229 posts)Dallas police said they arrested one and are looking for two more Louisiana men who killed him in a drug deal gone bad.
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