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mysteryowl

(7,390 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:50 PM Oct 2019

Will Trump resign before an impeachment vote?

I did an internet search regarding chatter about Trump resigning and there are many that think he just might do that.

The chatter is that it will be very abrupt and he will do it before the impeachment vote.

Heck, I even saw an astrologer post they had "done" his chart and saw he would resign, and that was before the impeachment hearings started.

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Will Trump resign before an impeachment vote? (Original Post) mysteryowl Oct 2019 OP
He Leave and Blame It on Shin Splints Duckandcover Oct 2019 #1
NO WAY. nt UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #2
He's such a narcissist that it's hard to imagine him doing that. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #3
Not as long as Moscow M and Repububs support him. Kablooie Oct 2019 #4
He's bothered by it. there is talk that at least two dozen HOUSE R's are upset enough hlthe2b Oct 2019 #5
Never budkin Oct 2019 #6
He will believe he will win the impeachment vote, just like he believes he won the Mueller inquiry. Doodley Oct 2019 #7
If there is an impeachment vote, he will be impeached DFW Oct 2019 #29
No. obnoxiousdrunk Oct 2019 #8
He will have to resign before the end of the term if Sneederbunk Oct 2019 #9
I have no idea, badseedboy Oct 2019 #10
He can't. Chellee Oct 2019 #11
That's the way I think. Corgigal Oct 2019 #17
Nope. Only way he'd resign is if McConnell told him he was going to be removed. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #12
I agree. Moscow Mitch would have to tell him he was done. NCLefty Oct 2019 #19
No radical noodle Oct 2019 #13
I doubt it. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #14
He won't resign Bettie Oct 2019 #15
Barbara Res, former exec to the Trump Org, thinks he might Poiuyt Oct 2019 #16
I wondered about this too. a la izquierda Oct 2019 #18
no Skittles Oct 2019 #20
I think a lot of it depends on Moscow Mitch. Xolodno Oct 2019 #21
NO of course not. nt Raine Oct 2019 #22
No. A sane person would, but we're dealing with a candidate for a straitjacket. Vinca Oct 2019 #23
I imagine him being trundled out of the WH on a handcart, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #24
No Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #25
He is a narcissist, he won't do it. Thomas Hurt Oct 2019 #26
I'm hoping he resigns in a huff via tweet. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2019 #27
Barbara Res told CNN that she thinks he will: Garrett78 Oct 2019 #28
I've read that he thinks a vote will hurt his legacy (aka, money laundering potential), so it's poss ancianita Oct 2019 #30
He might do just that. MineralMan Oct 2019 #31
I have said no in the past but, sarisataka Oct 2019 #32
Nope. n/t cynatnite Oct 2019 #33

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
3. He's such a narcissist that it's hard to imagine him doing that.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:55 PM
Oct 2019

I don't think he'd do it unless he could figure out a way to make it look like he'd "won" in some way, like if he said he was resigning because he could only defeat the Deep State as a fearless leader leading a revolution from outside the government.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
4. Not as long as Moscow M and Repububs support him.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:56 PM
Oct 2019

and so far it looks like they will.

If not he'll probably demand the Supreme Court throw out the votes.
(I know SCOTUS has no power to do so but Trump doesn't know that.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
5. He's bothered by it. there is talk that at least two dozen HOUSE R's are upset enough
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:57 PM
Oct 2019

they might go along with a vote to advance articles of impeachment, given it would already be a done deal with Dem votes. Seeing that could really drive Trump over the edge.

British and some US media have also been reporting on his deterioration--both with balance and speaking. Trump had a visit to Walter Reed this week that I saw no reporting on--very quick in and out with no media. Given the official excuse was to visit veterans and no photos were taken, some have wondered if he did not go for an MRI. So, if there is a confirmation of advancing dementia or similar, one might just wonder if he wouldn't find a way to blame everyone but himself for "forcing him" and leave to cover his impending decompensation.

That said, Trump is anything but "normal." Health or dementia issues aside, he's been a textbook malignant narcissist his whole live. The only thing for certain is that the only one he will consider is HIMSELF and he is fully prepared to take each and all of us down with him.

Doodley

(9,094 posts)
7. He will believe he will win the impeachment vote, just like he believes he won the Mueller inquiry.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 09:58 PM
Oct 2019

He will also believe he will have succeeded at damaging Biden, whether or not Biden wins the nomination.

He will also believe that he has done nothing but been smart in manipulating the system, the media, the people, political rivals, and world leaders.

It's a game to him and he believes he always wins. He will listen to his sycophantic circle and Sean Hannity.

Also, his lawyers may have told him, he could be prosecuted after leaving office. So no, he won't EVER resign.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
29. If there is an impeachment vote, he will be impeached
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:29 AM
Oct 2019

However, he will not lose the trial in the Senate. There are not 20 Republicans in the Senate that will vote against him. He could declare the USA to be a province of Russia, make Russian the official language of the country, and order a life-size replica of St. Basil's cathedral built on the mall next to the Washington Monument, and there would STILL not be 20 Republican Senators who would vote against him in an impeachment trial.

badseedboy

(174 posts)
10. I have no idea,
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 10:25 PM
Oct 2019

though I wish he would.
If he did, who would the gop run in 2020? Might they not put up a candidate?

Chellee

(2,097 posts)
11. He can't.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 10:25 PM
Oct 2019

The only thing stopping NY state from charging him is the fact that he currently occupies the White House. Once he's out, he's an ordinary citizen and he's fair game. I'm sure that he'd love to live in NY again, but not at Rikers.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
17. That's the way I think.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:02 AM
Oct 2019

Which is why we hear stupid talk about one of his kids being president after him.

He can’t leave now. Melina was crying when he won for a reason.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
12. Nope. Only way he'd resign is if McConnell told him he was going to be removed.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 10:41 PM
Oct 2019

Which won't happen, of course.

"I even saw an astrologer post"

Um, no.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
14. I doubt it.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:00 AM
Oct 2019

He's a narcissist. No one else is real to him. In his mind he's always the smartest person in the room, and always right. He is not capable of anything else.

Notice the way he denies having said or done things he's said and done.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
15. He won't resign
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:00 AM
Oct 2019

ever.

He'll have to be carried out of the White House like Julian Assange. He'll kick and scream, his phone in hand twittering like a madman.

And I, for one, will record it and watch it over and over and over.

Poiuyt

(18,125 posts)
16. Barbara Res, former exec to the Trump Org, thinks he might
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:52 AM
Oct 2019

A former Trump Organization executive says she thinks President Donald Trump may resign rather than face possible removal from office by impeachment.

"He does a lot of things to save face," Barbara Res, a former Trump Organization vice president, told CNN's Brian Stelter on Reliable Sources Sunday.

"It would be very, very, very bad for him to be impeached," Res said. "I don't know that he'll be found guilty but I don't know that he wants to be impeached. I think that's what this panic is about. And my gut [instinct] is that he'll leave office, he'll resign. Or make some kind of a deal, even, depending on what comes out."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/06/media/reliable-sources-former-employee-trump-impeachment/index.html

Personally, I don't think he'll resign. That's not his style.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
18. I wondered about this too.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:04 AM
Oct 2019

This would be a “positive” spin he could put on it I guess.

I don’t know the answer. I just know it’s completely bananas watching this from Germany.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
21. I think a lot of it depends on Moscow Mitch.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:24 AM
Oct 2019

Does he want the Senate to take this up for vote? If it helps them, yes. If it doesn't, then no. If it doesn't do either....who knows.

If it doesn't help retain the Senate, then Mitch will lie to Trump and tell him that the Senate will convict and he should get the hell out.

And I have to think there has to be a lot going on behind the scenes. Pence pardons Trump, he's a political dead man....but then, he probably couldn't win the Presidency anyway. Behind the scenes, I have to think Jeb, Romney and Kaisich are already talking to donors, strategists, etc. Or, perhaps even talking to Pence to be his VP should he take control. Then again, they may also consider 2020 lost, and are just angling for 2024.

One thing I think I'm completely right on, Mitch doesn't want the impeachment come to the Senate. He's already painting himself as fighting it...despite their own Memo telling them they can't.

Another landmine, a recession is coming. We get a Democratic President and largely Congress, the GOP is going to use this as a club and use it often against Democrats. I can see it now..."Trump was presiding over a great economy and the Democrats forced him out, now we have a recession". If Trump stays, its going to fall squarely on the GOP....and then the Senate for sure is in danger.

Should Trump leave, they will "marry" themselves to Trump once he's out to regain the base, while privately breathing a sigh of relief. They'll also amend their selection system quietly to make sure this doesn't happen again.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
23. No. A sane person would, but we're dealing with a candidate for a straitjacket.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 07:15 AM
Oct 2019

He might have to be dragged out of the White House . . . seriously.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
24. I imagine him being trundled out of the WH on a handcart,
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:09 AM
Oct 2019

wrapped up tight in a straightjacket and wearing a hockey mask like Hannibal Lecter.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
25. No
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:18 AM
Oct 2019

This is like any other criminal enterprise. Trump is owned by Russian mob figures and Putin, he's extremely useful to him where he is. No way they let him quit his job.

ancianita

(36,093 posts)
30. I've read that he thinks a vote will hurt his legacy (aka, money laundering potential), so it's poss
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:33 AM
Oct 2019

ible.

He has reason to think his "deal making" can continue to make his boss money while preserving the Republican Party's pretense of legitimacy.

Either way, works for me.

Then the House can get on with Pence and the rest.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
31. He might do just that.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:34 AM
Oct 2019

If he does, it will be abruptly announced and he will say something like "See how you like it when I'm gone!"

Trump acts impulsively, because he is completely unable to plan actions logically. He cannot look at a list of options and then choose the one that will have the best outcome. He is simply incapable of that.

So, when he is finally backed into a corner from which he sees no possible escape, he's likely to simply throw in the towel and walk away. It's like filing bankruptcy on a casino that is bleeding money. It's cutting one's losses when there is no hope for recovery.

Donald Trump does not act like most people act, because he is incapable of thoughtful planning. He simply reacts. There is nothing about a resignation that he could not rationalize. He is an incompetent person, entirely.

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
32. I have said no in the past but,
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:56 AM
Oct 2019

If an astrologer has done his chart and saw he will resign I should change my position

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