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TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:39 AM Oct 2019

As Long As We're Talking Batshit-Crazy Conspiracy Theories, Here's MINE!

Pelosi starts an an official impeachment inquiry, but not with the intention of removing Trump from office through impeachment. The actual purpose is to drive him over the edge, and when everybody sees how F-ING BONKERS this guy is, his own Cabinet will remove him under the 25th Amendment to the Constitution. Problem solved.

Taking a look at Trump's twitter feed...which is an unfiltered view inside the mind of a MAD MAN, it appears to be WORKING!

Sheesh! THIS GUY IS AS CRAZY AS A SHITHOUSE RAT ON CRACK!

McConnell might appeal to the Cabinet directly, and explain to them that having the Cabinet remove Trump is the EASY way out for the Republican Party. The alternative is putting him on trial in the Senate, and having to get every Republican Senator to vote, and go on RECORD as being in favor of keeping a PSYCHOPATH in power. The former way only 'tarnishes' the Cabinet. The later drags the whole Republican Party down with Trump.



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As Long As We're Talking Batshit-Crazy Conspiracy Theories, Here's MINE! (Original Post) TrollBuster9090 Oct 2019 OP
I'm not sure I ever see Carson dumping him. He's so moronic. NCLefty Oct 2019 #1
Ironically Carson is a doctor, the only cabinet officer who may be medically fit to determine Liberty Belle Oct 2019 #2
Maybe not Carson, but some of the others could be reasoned with. TrollBuster9090 Oct 2019 #3
Two words...Moscow Mitch pbmus Oct 2019 #4
I'm sure Pence will do Putin's bidding, too. But at least he won't say so out loud. TrollBuster9090 Oct 2019 #5
How many of the Cabinet are legit and not "acting?" Patterson Oct 2019 #6
Simpler version Midnightwalk Oct 2019 #7
I don't think his corrupt cabinet of sycophant$ will... Lock him up. Oct 2019 #8
There are very few sane rethuglicons left in Washington DC. democratisphere Oct 2019 #9
It's unlikely the cabinet will remove him canetoad Oct 2019 #10
25th amendment still will require a vote dansolo Oct 2019 #11

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
2. Ironically Carson is a doctor, the only cabinet officer who may be medically fit to determine
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:42 AM
Oct 2019

that the President has dementia and is fucking batshit crazy.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
3. Maybe not Carson, but some of the others could be reasoned with.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:43 AM
Oct 2019

Especially if McConnell explains to them that removal by the Cabinet is the EASY way out for the Republican Party. The alternative is to put a psychopath on trial in the Senate, and have every Republican Senator have to VOTE on whether he should stay in power or not.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
5. I'm sure Pence will do Putin's bidding, too. But at least he won't say so out loud.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:51 AM
Oct 2019

Or draw so much attention to Putin's involvement.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
7. Simpler version
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:21 AM
Oct 2019

A mash up of him begging russia and ukraine and now china to interfere in our election mixed up with cuts of last weeks and future rants with scary music and sobering voice saying “unamerican, traitorous, illegal”

That would make a great ad. It could drum up more support for removal and at a minimum I think it would work in the presidential and senate races.

Either way the continued pressure is going to eat him alive.

Lock him up.

(6,933 posts)
8. I don't think his corrupt cabinet of sycophant$ will...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:26 AM
Oct 2019

remove him.

Some of them are in real-deep troubles now too if they don't comply with the subpoenas... (re: Nixon's corrupt cabinet)

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
9. There are very few sane rethuglicons left in Washington DC.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:29 AM
Oct 2019

drumpf's cabinet and senior advisors are as crazy as he is.

canetoad

(17,168 posts)
10. It's unlikely the cabinet will remove him
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:53 AM
Oct 2019

This is a long and comprehensive article from Lawfare. It's well worth reading.

What the 25th Amendment Is Really For

By Brian C. Kalt Wednesday, October 2, 2019, 8:00 AM

Public discussion of the 25th Amendment—Section 4 of which provides for transferring an incapacitated president’s powers—has been simmering throughout the Trump administration. After every odd or unnerving public statement by Trump (most recently: crudely altering a weather map with a Sharpie, tweeting a baffling explanation of his use of the word Liddle’, and raising the specter of a “civil war” if he is removed from office), one can find his adversaries on social media questioning his mental fitness. They fume that only cravenness or corruption can explain Vice President Pence and the Cabinet’s failure to invoke the 25th Amendment. “If the 25th Amendment doesn’t apply to President Trump,” they ask, “who would it apply to? What’s it even for, then?"

But Section 4 has worked just as it was intended. The failure so far to invoke Section 4 is a reflection of the 25th Amendment’s design, not a perversion of it.

The original Constitution provided for the vice president to take over whenever the president suffered an “inability to discharge [his] powers and duties.” But the Constitution incorporated no process for determining inability, and it designated no decision maker. It also left unclear whether an incapacitated president would be able to retake power if he recovered. The result was that every time a president was incapacitated, the vice president failed to step up. Among numerous such episodes, the most troubling involved Presidents Garfield (who died 79 days after being shot) and Wilson (who was felled by a stroke and for months was unable to fulfill his duties).

President Eisenhower, who suffered multiple health crises, found it intolerable that there might be no one at the helm were a nuclear war to break out. Eisenhower executed an agreement with then-Vice President Richard Nixon to transfer power if Eisenhower became incapacitated. Eisenhower also had his administration propose a more formal and permanent solution. After President Kennedy’s assassination, the issue gained additional urgency. Congress approved the 25th Amendment in 1965, and state ratification was completed in 1967.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-25th-amendment-really

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
11. 25th amendment still will require a vote
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 06:52 AM
Oct 2019

I wish people who keep suggesting this would actually read what the 25th amendment says. If the VP and cabinet actually did this, all Trump has to do is declare that he is fit and then he is automatically restored as President. At that point it would require a 2/3 vote in both houses to remove him, which is a higher threshold than impeachment. The 25th amendment is meant for a president who is incapacitated.

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