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dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:12 AM Oct 2019

"The Kurds? Yes, you may kill them."






Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, right, shakes hands with Jared Kushner, left, US President Donald Trump's adviser, prior to their meeting at the Presidential Palace in Ankara, Turkey, Wednesday, Feb. 27, 2019 (Presidential Press Service via AP, Pool)





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"The Kurds? Yes, you may kill them." (Original Post) dalton99a Oct 2019 OP
Oh lort, this is bad. blm Oct 2019 #1
All of the above. Nevermypresident Oct 2019 #2
Plus... joost5 Oct 2019 #34
que nojo lambchopp59 Oct 2019 #3
He's not a human being, just like Ivanka...... pangaia Oct 2019 #25
Trump is actually conforming to Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #4
Sadly, yes MaryMagdaline Oct 2019 #6
Bull-Fucking-Shit! maxrandb Oct 2019 #16
Actually you might want to crack open a history book. It was George H.W. Bush that betrayed them. AtheistCrusader Oct 2019 #21
a much more accurate take stopdiggin Oct 2019 #39
In Iraq. This is Syria. They live in three different countries. station agent Oct 2019 #40
You mean 1991 and yes, that's actually the problem. They have been denied a nation of their own. AtheistCrusader Oct 2019 #41
At least 4 different countries. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #44
Thanks! Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #37
I spent 30 years in the Navy and 5 as a civil servant maxrandb Oct 2019 #46
All 4 are motives. gab13by13 Oct 2019 #5
K&R MaryMagdaline Oct 2019 #7
Previously, tRump sold out freedom of millions in HK by promising China he wouldn't support protests Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #8
Two bastards there in that picture bdamomma Oct 2019 #9
Noticed they cropped the blood dripping from their hands. PaulRevere08 Oct 2019 #10
trump has betrayed the Kurds Gothmog Oct 2019 #11
This is one of the darkest days ever for American foreign policy... regnaD kciN Oct 2019 #12
Not ''we'': The orange caligula and his rotten family of corrupt grifters. nt Lock him up. Oct 2019 #42
They act as if no one is watching. dchill Oct 2019 #13
Perfect picture an ogre shaking hands with a snake..... gordianot Oct 2019 #14
Frum's Item 4 DallasNE Oct 2019 #15
Two sociopaths or one sociopath and a psychopath shaking hands- 58Sunliner Oct 2019 #17
The world is watching - so this is how we treat our "allies" now? FakeNoose Oct 2019 #18
December 2018..... Roland99 Oct 2019 #19
+1. dalton99a Oct 2019 #20
Every day it seems, fresh grounds for Treason and Impeachment make headlines. AtheistCrusader Oct 2019 #22
Someone needs to beat the living fuck out of Prince Jared. Still In Wisconsin Oct 2019 #23
What did the Turks promise Trump? Happy Hoosier Oct 2019 #24
Cuz it's Vlad's birthday? BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2019 #28
Syria became all about defeating ISIS stopdiggin Oct 2019 #43
My stomach is lurching BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2019 #26
Contacted my senator/representative Desert_Leslie Oct 2019 #27
Thank you for taking action and calling your reps flamingdem Oct 2019 #30
YES!!! Do this!!! Make some noise! calimary Oct 2019 #36
Moscow Mitch and Russiapublicans should be blasted by voters over this Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #45
This is terrible cp Oct 2019 #29
Oh come on. It's not like Turkey has a history of genocide. SunSeeker Oct 2019 #31
If only the framers had put in a clause about emoluments in the constitution Takket Oct 2019 #32
This just infuriates me! smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #33
She's still busy doing private business on the taxpayers' dime? calimary Oct 2019 #35
The madman must be taken out, NOW! rickyhall Oct 2019 #38

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
3. que nojo
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:20 AM
Oct 2019

I have to wait at least a half hour now to eat my breakfast after looking at that picture. Jared didn't forget to put on his whitening spray that morning did he?

Voltaire2

(13,061 posts)
4. Trump is actually conforming to
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:21 AM
Oct 2019

the long standing international unspoken agreement that the Kurds will never have a state of their own and that it is always ok to sacrifice them for any reason.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
16. Bull-Fucking-Shit!
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:32 AM
Oct 2019

You really believe that a President Clinton would give the "go ahead" for Turkey to slaughter the Kurds?

Stop trying to make excuses for this worthless piece of amphibian shit.

Your post is one of many I've seen today that basically says; "oh, well, sucks to be the Kurds"...

As if a different President or person would have done exactly what Dipshit Donnie is doing.

Fuck that. Your post is the absolute worst example of "bothsiderism" I've ever fucking seen, and is example number 135,674,789 of the reasons this ignorant fuckstick is in the oval office.

You should take it down.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
21. Actually you might want to crack open a history book. It was George H.W. Bush that betrayed them.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:43 AM
Oct 2019

Clinton maintained the no-fly zone status for Iraq, but the bulk of the slaughter was long over before Bill Clinton took office.

The Kurdish people have been repeatedly betrayed, blatantly and unapologetically, by the last three Republican presidents. The person you responded to just now with demands of removing the post, didn't specify Bill or 'both sides' at all.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
39. a much more accurate take
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:21 PM
Oct 2019

Kurds have been used (when advantageous) and betrayed by all and sundry going back generations. Trump is of course the most faithless partner imaginable .. but the Kurds have had virtually NO faithful partners ..in a long and regrettable struggle. Hatred of Trump doesn't substitute for some understanding of the realities.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
41. You mean 1991 and yes, that's actually the problem. They have been denied a nation of their own.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:02 PM
Oct 2019

The Kurdish people have no single homeland at the moment. But one can identify them as an ethnic group, and observe how our nation treats them.

During the worst of the more recent Iraq war, we considered partitioning Iraq into Sunni, Shia, and Kurdish regions. Turkey in no uncertain terms, threatened to invade and destroy any attempt to create a Kurdish nation in any form. (And George W backed down.)

Voltaire2

(13,061 posts)
44. At least 4 different countries.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:42 PM
Oct 2019

But please take a brief look at how we allowed Turkey to slaughter Kurds for decades, how we used and discarded the Iraqi Kurds twice, how we ignored the Iranian slaughter of the Kurds in the 70's when the Pahlevi gang was running Iran...

Voltaire2

(13,061 posts)
37. Thanks!
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:05 PM
Oct 2019

It is always important to consider poorly informed opinions on their merit.

You might want to research the sad history of the Kurdish people over the last 100 years. Or not.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
46. I spent 30 years in the Navy and 5 as a civil servant
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:47 PM
Oct 2019

A lot of that time deployed to that region and hotspot.

I'm fully aware of the history of the Kurds, as I am with the history of the Palestinians.

There are difficult, but workable solutions that don't include giving Turkey, or Israel carte blanche to murder people.

The Kurds have been our allies in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.

We shouldn't simply cut and run because "that's the way we've always done it".

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
9. Two bastards there in that picture
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:09 AM
Oct 2019

is that going to be another empty building shell, after tRump screws Turkey too.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
12. This is one of the darkest days ever for American foreign policy...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:22 AM
Oct 2019

Don’t get me wrong. We have been far from perfect and have lots of blood on our hands. But this is the first time we have consciously sold out a valuable ally to sure genocide after they did all we asked them to do on our behalf.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
14. Perfect picture an ogre shaking hands with a snake.....
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:28 AM
Oct 2019

A snake with hands. My apologies to snakes everywhere but you do not have hands.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
15. Frum's Item 4
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:32 AM
Oct 2019

Is very worrisome. Indeed, Trump is already doing the burn. Just look at the glee on his face when he signed an Executive Order to gut Medicare Advantage. Can't get him out of there too soon.

58Sunliner

(4,386 posts)
17. Two sociopaths or one sociopath and a psychopath shaking hands-
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:33 AM
Oct 2019

with another sociopath cheering them on. What kind of fucked up person would post about a fucking hotel and then cheer on a murderous dictator to cover them? Moscow's bitches.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
18. The world is watching - so this is how we treat our "allies" now?
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:33 AM
Oct 2019

It's a wonder that we'd even have any allies left after this!


AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
22. Every day it seems, fresh grounds for Treason and Impeachment make headlines.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:45 AM
Oct 2019

I don't think it'll be long now.

Not that it will do the Kurdish people much good.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
23. Someone needs to beat the living fuck out of Prince Jared.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:51 AM
Oct 2019

I hate, hate, hate that smarmy little weasel. And that's an insult to weasels.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
43. Syria became all about defeating ISIS
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:23 PM
Oct 2019

To that end we joined forces with a genocidal dictator, and the Russians. The Kurds were useful .. but NEVER part of end game (to the extent there was one). Trump is at base level an isolationist. Doesn't believe the U.S. really has a place in this (or really any other) geopolitical situation.

Desert_Leslie

(131 posts)
27. Contacted my senator/representative
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:56 AM
Oct 2019

Among the many evil doings lately, this one stands out to me.

Special ops teams and US troops must be appalled by this news. McCain must be rolling in his grave.

I just contacted my congresspeople (GOP). The woman I spoke to at my GOP representative's DC office seemed surprised and taken aback by this development (she must not follow the news).

This will be seen as a green light to Erdogan to begin a genocide of the Kurds. "Better hurry and do it before President Trump is voted out or impeached!"



calimary

(81,308 posts)
36. YES!!! Do this!!! Make some noise!
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:01 PM
Oct 2019

If they think you don’t care, they won’t, either.

BE the squeaky wheel!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
45. Moscow Mitch and Russiapublicans should be blasted by voters over this
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:31 PM
Oct 2019

They've sold out everyone except murderous dictators.

cp

(6,634 posts)
29. This is terrible
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:30 AM
Oct 2019

I know, the bleeding obvious, but we now live in a peculiar world here in the United States.

Takket

(21,575 posts)
32. If only the framers had put in a clause about emoluments in the constitution
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:43 AM
Oct 2019

So we could rest assured decisions made about foreign matters were based on the wellbeing of the USA and not the president’s finances.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
33. This just infuriates me!
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:55 AM
Oct 2019

WTF is it going to take to get these people out? They should all have been in prison a long time ago.

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