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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:22 AM Oct 2019

What is tRump getting for betraying the Kurds?

He made some folks happy, of course. Putin, Iran and Turkey.

But I want to know what's he getting out of it?

tRump's toyed with the notion before, but he did this with zero diplomacy, consulting with our allies (There are British troops serving there as well) and more.

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What is tRump getting for betraying the Kurds? (Original Post) cynatnite Oct 2019 OP
He has a hotel there and of course all roads lead back to Putin. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #1
What is he getting out of it? He's keeping Putin happy, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #4
I 100 percent agree. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #5
This Mike 03 Oct 2019 #8
Trump Tower Istanbul Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #2
I think it's more than that this time around... cynatnite Oct 2019 #6
... demmiblue Oct 2019 #17
A momentary diversion from impeachment.... spanone Oct 2019 #3
That's actually the most likely reason for it. MineralMan Oct 2019 #7
this mopinko Oct 2019 #11
He doesn't care how many die in that diversion. spanone Oct 2019 #13
It's following thru on a promise to save his towers from Dec 2018 Roland99 Oct 2019 #9
Maybe a favor for M. Bin Salman so the Turks will finally STFU about Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2019 #10
It's Putin's birthday. It's a gift offering to stay in his good graces. Kablooie Oct 2019 #12
He has a checklist and... lame54 Oct 2019 #14
You would have to ask Vlad njhoneybadger Oct 2019 #15
A distraction that benefits him, fuck everyone else. nt babylonsister Oct 2019 #16
He gets possibly several things. lark Oct 2019 #18
as i said in another thread, he's trying to sway the narrative and distract from impeachment onetexan Oct 2019 #19
Remember when Benedict Donald used to talk about how stupid it was to ooky Oct 2019 #20
I'm not sure something like this as a distraction will even work all that much... cynatnite Oct 2019 #21

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,734 posts)
4. What is he getting out of it? He's keeping Putin happy,
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:27 AM
Oct 2019

which means he remains in the good graces of the oligarchs, which means his money-laundering scheme can continue, whatever kompromat Putin has on him stays secret, and maybe he can build that yuge hotel in Moscow.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
2. Trump Tower Istanbul
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:25 AM
Oct 2019

How much you want to bet Erdogan guaranteed he'd get his cohorts to pay full price for dozens of condos there?

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
6. I think it's more than that this time around...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:31 AM
Oct 2019

A few years ago, I would've said sure.

But with impeachment and 2020 coming, I'm more inclined to think he's looking for dirt to ensure no impeachment & removal plus to win 2020.

We've seen he's not above dealing with the devil, so to speak.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. That's actually the most likely reason for it.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:32 AM
Oct 2019

OTOH, Lindsey Graham has already spoken out against it, and Trump counts on his support, and enforces that with knowledge of something Graham doesn't want made public, I think.

mopinko

(70,127 posts)
11. this
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:47 AM
Oct 2019

remember the reports that they kept a list of outrageous things they could do to change the headlines.
this one worked really well last time he used it.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
9. It's following thru on a promise to save his towers from Dec 2018
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:40 AM
Oct 2019

Four Months After Threat To Seize Trump Towers Istanbul, Trump Gave In To Turkey’s Syria Troop Pullout Demand
(December 2018)
https://www.inquisitr.com/5221546/seize-trump-towers-istanbul-syria-troop-pullout/

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
10. Maybe a favor for M. Bin Salman so the Turks will finally STFU about
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:42 AM
Oct 2019

Kashoggi? Who knows. So many scumbags can benefit from this....... The Kurds have the misfortune of being in the middle of the shit. As usual.

lark

(23,105 posts)
18. He gets possibly several things.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:35 AM
Oct 2019

1 - helps PUtin and his ally Assad and was probably told to do this in no uncertain terms anyway
2 - turkey is the country pushing hard that MBS killed Khashoggi. drumpf and Kushner were involved are financially involved with MBS so want this to die down. MBS gave KUsher billions of $$ by bailing out their dying property. Bet we don't hear one more word from Turkey about this after drumpf gave them our allies for target practice.
3 - Turkey has a drumpf tower in Turkey - maybe Erdogan threatens it or bribed him with it. Just pulled that one out of my ass thinking about what leverage Erdogan has on drumpf.

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
19. as i said in another thread, he's trying to sway the narrative and distract from impeachment
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:37 AM
Oct 2019

his fascist base could care less about the humanitarian crisis that would ensue if the US abandons the Kurds.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
20. Remember when Benedict Donald used to talk about how stupid it was to
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:45 AM
Oct 2019

announce to the world, and your enemies, what you were going to do?

Until he did it? When he needed a distraction?

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
21. I'm not sure something like this as a distraction will even work all that much...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:49 AM
Oct 2019

If nothing else, it will emphasize the need to get him out of office even more along with the impeachment inquiry.

There's been a lot of talk of Kurdish genocide that might come as a result of this.

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