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Trump ordered Kurd defenses destroyed. (Original Post) Grasswire2 Oct 2019 OP
Recommended. Christ... Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 #1
Set them up from the beginning Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #2
Putins bitch strikes again! AZ8theist Oct 2019 #36
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #3
Willfully allowing... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #4
folks on twitter predict that Putin will order him to burn everything down nt Grasswire2 Oct 2019 #5
Hmm... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #6
It's what Putin does, and his henchmen follow orders. He's upgrading his old alliance with Turkey. ancianita Oct 2019 #7
Just like he did with Khashoggi. dchill Oct 2019 #12
Yup! Newest Reality Oct 2019 #13
Damn...he actually is a Russian agent ashredux Oct 2019 #8
Well, yeah. Groomed for decades. dchill Oct 2019 #17
Just more reasons duforsure Oct 2019 #9
if we survive, we need to restrict some presidential powers Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #35
Agree emphatically. Also limit powers of a single senator (McT) to constipate government erronis Oct 2019 #37
Trump was following Putin's Orders dlk Oct 2019 #10
Nice way to treat an ally, 'eh? calimary Oct 2019 #11
He is an absolute monster PatSeg Oct 2019 #14
Nobody will ever trust the US again. yardwork Oct 2019 #15
People are smarter than that, they know it is not the USA, it is trump and his minions Perseus Oct 2019 #20
Any country weak enough to allow such a foreign policy exboyfil Oct 2019 #26
Nope Cosmocat Oct 2019 #29
I don't know about that. Trust, once lost, is hard to regain. yardwork Oct 2019 #39
America elected a scumbag once who's to say it won't happen again. Trust is damaged. nt UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #42
I think other countries will see that we don't have the Ilsa Oct 2019 #45
and today is Putin's birthday Grasswire2 Oct 2019 #16
They are all in a race against time. littlemissmartypants Oct 2019 #19
Its not only the creature, Pompeo is responsible for it too Perseus Oct 2019 #18
He gets closer to Hitler every day Jarqui Oct 2019 #21
Fucker. geardaddy Oct 2019 #22
Leave it to Trump BluNoMatterHu Oct 2019 #23
Dragging us closer and closer to World War III. Initech Oct 2019 #24
If proven that he did this bluestarone Oct 2019 #25
Previously, tRump sold out freedom of millions in HK by promising China he wouldn't support protests Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #27
Abandoning our allies on the battlefield bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #28
Kick for visibility Mike 03 Oct 2019 #30
'Particularly chilling" is right.. whathehell Oct 2019 #31
What have we become? democrank Oct 2019 #32
Trump Tower Istambu; McKim Oct 2019 #33
K&R alwaysinasnit Oct 2019 #34
The betrayal was premeditated. dalton99a Oct 2019 #38
In the event there is a slaughter, could this be a war crime? n/t Beartracks Oct 2019 #40
Yes. roamer65 Oct 2019 #41
Richard Engle reports nothing has moved. SCVDem Oct 2019 #43
So, that means there's a reasonable presumption of premeditation? malthaussen Oct 2019 #44

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. Willfully allowing...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:47 PM
Oct 2019

Allowing a slaughter is, to me, a crime in itself and whomever has the ability to prevent it and does not is culpable at that level. Taking responsibility for actual results of his actions or inaction seems to be repugnant to this autocrat. He tends to only take credit for things he has not done, like the economy he inherited and is, in fact, eviscerating.

On my list, the slaughter is a war crime aided and abetted by Trump Dunning-Kruger. If it occurs the blood is on HIS HANDS.

Oh, and he demonstrates his lack of care, concern or compassion for human life here. He is dangerous. When will more blood flow and where?

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
13. Yup!
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:54 PM
Oct 2019

His loyalty is to himself, and perhaps to his family, (but watch out, would be my advice).

Betrayal is to be expected if it expedites his intentions. Par for the course, as they say. The Republicans may be starting to smell the stench, but they are not on the horns of a rather big dilemma. I relish that in a way.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
9. Just more reasons
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:39 PM
Oct 2019

No one, no country can trust anything this serial liar says, promises, or claims he.'ll do. He never does that, and why he has troubles getting loans, or finishing business deals, he always uses excuses to get around them. He always screws the others over, and is a repeated pattern

erronis

(15,294 posts)
37. Agree emphatically. Also limit powers of a single senator (McT) to constipate government
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:35 PM
Oct 2019

and since we're probably into constitutional amendment territory, eradicate or fix the electoral college.

Make house districts and gerrymandering subject to strict federal rules.

Don't allow "acting" heads of departments/agencies to be able to do any actions.

Require every executive branch employee and the POTUS, VP, all congress-critters have to pass a yearly background investigation.

Require these same people to supply their last 5 years of federal and state tax returns.

Don't allow children or their close friends to be able to enter any federal building. Don't let them have security clearances. Don't let wives/husbands of the POTUS decorate the WH.

No investments whatsoever in any money-making (or laundering) ventures. Be a good public servant. Sell/divest all of your holdings. Not to friends/buddies/foreign oligarchs. Craigslist would be fine.

Golfing is fine as long as you pay for it. Not the taxpayer. All play must be live-taped on CSPAN and honest scoring will be performed.

Twitter will be blocked for any peeResident and his/her aides including those that aren't really employees and including those that pretend they have client-lawyer privileges.

All meds that are taken will be published to the web. Frequency, how much, where obtained, condition being treated.

OK, I'm getting carried away.

No, stop! I don't want to be carried away!

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
20. People are smarter than that, they know it is not the USA, it is trump and his minions
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:12 PM
Oct 2019

We need to get them out of office, and when they are out people will understand. They also understand that the US voters are ignorant fools, lets hope we can fix that but not only impeaching these criminals but voting the rest of the GOP out of office.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
26. Any country weak enough to allow such a foreign policy
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:30 PM
Oct 2019

to be exercised is not a reliable ally. The person does not matter. The system should have protected from this situation.

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
29. Nope
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:43 PM
Oct 2019

You're right that they're smart, they're smart enough to know the people of this country are idiots. The world barely tolerated w, just a bunch of stupid arrogant ignoramuses.

But that wasnt good enough, we had to elect an evil russian tool this go around, and that is not even getting into congressional Rs, traveling to russia, taking their $$, the asswipes letter it Iran ...

Sorry, they know this IS the US, cause it IS.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
45. I think other countries will see that we don't have the
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:39 AM
Oct 2019

Constitutional mechanics to fix the abuse of our laws. Until that is addressed, they have every right to be sceptical of our promises, especially since other hostile nations are interfering in our elections.

littlemissmartypants

(22,691 posts)
19. They are all in a race against time.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:11 PM
Oct 2019

Have you seen the recent photos of Uncle P? He's not looking well. I hope they croak on the same day.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
18. Its not only the creature, Pompeo is responsible for it too
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:10 PM
Oct 2019

These horrible people are all in it. And I don't doubt that his children, "the advisers", also had their saying in it.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
21. He gets closer to Hitler every day
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:15 PM
Oct 2019

A President of the United States ordering the dismantling of defenses to facilitate the slaughter of an ally?

This man has no conscience and deserves an end like Mussolini.

bucolic_frolic

(43,176 posts)
28. Abandoning our allies on the battlefield
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:38 PM
Oct 2019

I don't see how this can be construed as in the best interest of the United States.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
31. 'Particularly chilling" is right..
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:08 PM
Oct 2019

My God... I thought they were 'merely' abandoning them, but this sounds like the Kurds are being set up to be Killed!...What is THAT about?!...These were our allies and now it sounds like we'te setting them up to be murdered?!?...My husband suspects this is at Erdogan's "request".... Sounds like flat out murder, and/ or a genocidal War Crime.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
43. Richard Engle reports nothing has moved.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:18 AM
Oct 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212557948

Makes me question the destroying of weapons.

I don't think the Kurds would allow that.

Did we draw down on them?
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