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Is Trump following Putin's lead on the Kurds? (Original Post) yellowcanine Oct 2019 OP
Most assuredly l flying_wahini Oct 2019 #1
uh, da spasebo lapfog_1 Oct 2019 #2
Might be Erdogan instead Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 #3
Yes. Also there's a trump tower recently built in Istanbul. flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #4
Erdogan and Putin Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #5
This is all about the Trump Crime Wellstone ruled Oct 2019 #6
If only Occam had a razor... dchill Oct 2019 #7
I started a twitter hashtag this morning cilla4progress Oct 2019 #8
No. This is about Turkey not Russia. Caliman73 Oct 2019 #9
It's about both rockfordfile Oct 2019 #10
Certainly could be with Graham's new angle Caliman73 Oct 2019 #12
Is the Pope Catholic? GoCubsGo Oct 2019 #11
Of course. This is ordered by Putin. onecaliberal Oct 2019 #13

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
4. Yes. Also there's a trump tower recently built in Istanbul.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:18 PM
Oct 2019

from Wikipedia

In December 2015, Trump stated in a radio interview that he had a "conflict of interest" in dealing with Turkey because of his property, saying "I have a little conflict of interest, because I have a major, major building in Istanbul


From Newsweek (today): https://www.newsweek.com/ivanka-trump-tweet-thanking-turkey-erdogan-attending-istanbul-trump-towers-launch-syria-controversy-1463536

Trump's businesses interests in Turkey may have prompted, or at least influenced, his decision to allow Erdogan to go ahead with his military offensive.
Ryan Lizza, Politico's chief Washington correspondent explained on Twitter that situations like this "is why presidents divest."

"It is crazy that a president is making national security decisions like the one tonight when he has lucrative business relationships at stake in the country that will benefit," Lizza added.
John Sipher, who spent 28 years working for the CIA, expressed his frustration at Trump's announcement. "At least the Trump Administration is consistent," he said on Twitter. "We are about screwing our allies, partners and friends. Don't trust America, even if you shed blood on their behalf. If you want favors build a Trump tower."

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
5. Erdogan and Putin
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:18 PM
Oct 2019

These evil despots are leading Trump and the US.

Trump is surely benefiting personally from this though. The US, not so much.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. This is all about the Trump Crime
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:21 PM
Oct 2019

Syndicate and their new Hotels in Istanbul that opened over the Weekend. Oh BTW,Vlad is running our Foreign Policy if anyone has any doubt.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
8. I started a twitter hashtag this morning
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:25 PM
Oct 2019

(my 1st): #putinisourpresident. Also: #the25thamendmentishereforthis

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
9. No. This is about Turkey not Russia.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:33 PM
Oct 2019

Remember that Russia and Turkey are backing different sides in the Syrian conflict. Turkey has had it in for the Kurds since way before Syria. The thing keeping Turkey from attacking them has been US backing. I could see Putin okaying the situation, but this would not be a Russian operation since the Kurds had effectively taken out ISIS which had been causing Asad's forces some difficulty.

Trump is trying to get something from Turkey.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
12. Certainly could be with Graham's new angle
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:56 PM
Oct 2019

The sanctions on Turkey are appropriate, but Graham saying he will push to suspend Turkey from NATO sounds like a definite Russian angle.

Typically Turkey and Russia are on opposite sides of any given situation which is why I initially said that Russia is not driving this. Turkey has wanted to eradicate the Kurds for a long long time, before Trump was in office, but the US has always had the back of the Kurds.

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