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EleanorR

(2,393 posts) Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:45 PM Oct 2019

Exclusive: Official Who Heard Call Says Trump Got 'Rolled' By Turkey and 'Has No Spine'

Donald Trump got "rolled" by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a National Security Council source with direct knowledge of the discussions told Newsweek.

In a scheduled phone call on Sunday afternoon between President Trump and President Erdogan, Trump said he would withdraw U.S. forces from northern Syria. The phone call was scheduled after Turkey announced it was planning to invade Syria, and hours after Erdogan reinforced his army units at the Syrian-Turkish border and issued his strongest threat to launch a military incursion, according to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of anonymity.

The U.S. withdrawal plays into the hands of the Islamic State group, Damascus and Moscow, and the announcement left Trump's own Defense Department "completely stunned," said Pentagon officials. Turkey, like the United States, wants regime change in Syria. Russia and Iran support the Assad regime.

"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line."

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-official-who-heard-call-says-trump-got-rolled-turkey-has-no-spine-1463623

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Exclusive: Official Who Heard Call Says Trump Got 'Rolled' By Turkey and 'Has No Spine' (Original Post) EleanorR Oct 2019 OP

Another whistleblower? Lulu KC Oct 2019 #1

Trump is a moron. He has zero understanding of any of this. MineralMan Oct 2019 #2

tRump*s experts make him feel stupid... Raster Oct 2019 #5

Yes, he IS stupid. MineralMan Oct 2019 #6

Much like those who see him as their hero blm Oct 2019 #9

yeah, that about sums it up fishwax Oct 2019 #11

The slaughter of the Kurds will be blood on MF45 hands kimbutgar Oct 2019 #3

Trump doesn't care about Kurds. He doesn't even know who the Kurds are. MineralMan Oct 2019 #7

Kurds rank pretty low on voters' priorities. progressoid Oct 2019 #13

no Piasladic Oct 2019 #17

And still Republicans won't demand he resign. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #4

Appeasement oswaldactedalone Oct 2019 #8

Absolutely incredible Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #10

Bullshit-he did not get rolled, he just doesn't give a shit about genocide. 58Sunliner Oct 2019 #12

naturally. turds (aka, trumps) don't have spines Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #14

No wonder he failed a casino. He's got the world's worst poker face. Initech Oct 2019 #15

Lindsey, Moscow Mitch True Blue American Oct 2019 #16

This is 100% treason. He is putting our allies in danger. Initech Oct 2019 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author LeftInTX Oct 2019 #21

So much for Lindsey LeftInTX Oct 2019 #22

Did you hear what Nancy said to Trump? True Blue American Oct 2019 #19

Nice burn! Initech Oct 2019 #20

What an ethically bankrupt tryant. ffr Oct 2019 #23

Lulu KC

(2,567 posts)

1. Another whistleblower?

Reply to EleanorR (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:48 PM

Oct 2019

Come forward, please!

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)

2. Trump is a moron. He has zero understanding of any of this.

Reply to EleanorR (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:48 PM

Oct 2019

So, he's susceptible to suggestions, and he tends to listen to whomever he's talking to, since he can't remember anything else and knows nothing about the situation. Trump won't seek advice from his own experts, either, because they make him feel stupid. So he just wings it.

It's a recipe for disaster.

Raster

(20,998 posts)

5. tRump*s experts make him feel stupid...

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:54 PM

Oct 2019

...because HE IS STUPID. tRump* is a moron, plain and simple, that has never had to fully deal with the repercussions of his failures, which are legion.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)

6. Yes, he IS stupid.

Reply to Raster (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:59 PM

Oct 2019

And yet, we leave him in charge of world-changing decisions. So, how stupid are we?

blm

(113,065 posts)

9. Much like those who see him as their hero

Reply to Raster (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:08 PM

Oct 2019

Shudder

fishwax

(29,149 posts)

11. yeah, that about sums it up

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:12 PM

Oct 2019

Terrifyingly accurate, in fact.

kimbutgar

(21,162 posts)

3. The slaughter of the Kurds will be blood on MF45 hands

Reply to EleanorR (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:49 PM

Oct 2019

Just another thing to use against him in 2020.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)

7. Trump doesn't care about Kurds. He doesn't even know who the Kurds are.

Reply to kimbutgar (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:00 PM

Oct 2019

Truly he doesn't. It's all a mystery to him.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)

13. Kurds rank pretty low on voters' priorities.

Reply to kimbutgar (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:46 PM

Oct 2019

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)

17. no

Reply to kimbutgar (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:39 PM

Oct 2019

This will be the bloodiest betrayal this century.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)

4. And still Republicans won't demand he resign.

Reply to EleanorR (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:50 PM

Oct 2019

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)

8. Appeasement

Reply to EleanorR (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:03 PM

Oct 2019

The Orange Shitstain is a massive fuck up. This act of appeasement should be called out for what it is, an act of cowardice by a chickenshit.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)

10. Absolutely incredible

Reply to EleanorR (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:09 PM

Oct 2019

Erdogan calls to say that he's invading Syria, Trump says, "Go ahead, let me make sure we make it easier for you."

58Sunliner

(4,386 posts)

12. Bullshit-he did not get rolled, he just doesn't give a shit about genocide.

Reply to EleanorR (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:45 PM

Oct 2019

The sociopath has his orders from a sick psychopath named Putin-may he rot in hell.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)

14. naturally. turds (aka, trumps) don't have spines

Reply to EleanorR (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:47 PM

Oct 2019

Initech

(100,080 posts)

15. No wonder he failed a casino. He's got the world's worst poker face.

Reply to EleanorR (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:00 PM

Oct 2019

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)

16. Lindsey, Moscow Mitch

Reply to Initech (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:28 PM

Oct 2019

And Nancy spoke loud and clear against this!

And,Praise the Lord, Rob Portman said the phone call was so wrong.

Pundits are saying Trump has gone from narcissism to Messianic .

His days are numbered. Every one is turning on him. Dumb as a fence post.

Initech

(100,080 posts)

18. This is 100% treason. He is putting our allies in danger.

Reply to True Blue American (Reply #16)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:58 PM

Oct 2019

This was a terrible idea from the start and it's not going to end well. Seriously, fuck this administration.

Response to True Blue American (Reply #16)

LeftInTX This message was self-deleted by its author.

LeftInTX

(25,374 posts)

22. So much for Lindsey

Reply to True Blue American (Reply #16)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:30 PM

Oct 2019

Link to tweet

Trump does something that threatens national security
Lindsey gets upset and momentarily forgets about his alliance with Trump
Lindsey says something
Lindsey recants.

Rinse repeat.