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Here's an unexpected development (MA-SEN) (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2019 OP
She publicly called for Kennedy to not challenge Markey even before he announced. Bleacher Creature Oct 2019 #1
Awesome! I just donated to Kennedy. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #2
Why the snark? obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #6
Tell us why, thanks. nt babylonsister Oct 2019 #8
AOC, whom I like... OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #9
Uh what? She is helping an ally in congress. It is Kennedy who is being divisive. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #10
Why did she say the "establishment" was backing Kennedy? OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #13
Because that is the truth. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #14
Well, I thought she was OK with primaries of democrats? OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #15
I wish Joe Kennedy wasn't doing this. Markey doesn't deserve it. He is one of the good guys. phleshdef Oct 2019 #3
Ocasio-Cortez is on the right side of this issue, like she is on just about all issues. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #4
Crowley has been an excellent progressive for a long time. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #19
Yes! What she said.... FM123 Oct 2019 #5
I like them both and have met Joe Kennedy. However I side with Ed Markey on this one. CentralMass Oct 2019 #7
So did Elizabeth Warren in a great video. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #11
Why is Kennedy doing this? Captain Zero Oct 2019 #12
I have no idea why Kennedy is challenging Markey. Blue_true Oct 2019 #16
Read the fine print. She's using Kennedy's name to fundraise for herself: George II Oct 2019 #17
Fine print always matters. When mixing bucks and beliefs just doesn't work. n/t MFGsunny Oct 2019 #20
I think it's bullshit that people go after Crowley. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #18

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
1. She publicly called for Kennedy to not challenge Markey even before he announced.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:31 PM
Oct 2019

Markey got behind the Green New Deal early on and was the lead sponsor in the Senate, which largely accounts for he position.

I personally like that AOC understands the benefit of building coalitions and isn't reflexively trying to push people with experience out. That's something Bernie has never figured out.

 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
9. AOC, whom I like...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:53 PM
Oct 2019

Chose to make this a devise way to fund raise. Dividing "the establishment" from progressives. It turns me off and leads me to donate opposite of the devise message.

Voltaire2

(13,061 posts)
10. Uh what? She is helping an ally in congress. It is Kennedy who is being divisive.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:09 PM
Oct 2019

Joe Kennedy should wait and see if Warren's seat opens up.

 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
13. Why did she say the "establishment" was backing Kennedy?
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:26 PM
Oct 2019

I think she sees that as a good way to fund raise. It's divisive. THEM not US the establishment...

 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
15. Well, I thought she was OK with primaries of democrats?
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:49 PM
Oct 2019

Labeling people "the establishment" is divisive.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
3. I wish Joe Kennedy wasn't doing this. Markey doesn't deserve it. He is one of the good guys.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:37 PM
Oct 2019

And I like Joe Kennedy in general but this just feels wrong to me. I imagine he wants to get at least one term in as a Senator so that he can run for President in 2028. But thats not the path I'd like to see him take.

Voltaire2

(13,061 posts)
4. Ocasio-Cortez is on the right side of this issue, like she is on just about all issues.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:48 PM
Oct 2019

Kennedy brings pretty much nothing but his name to the table. Markey has been a solid progressive voice for decades.

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
19. Crowley has been an excellent progressive for a long time.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:20 AM
Oct 2019

Was one of the most progressive members of the house.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
5. Yes! What she said....
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:00 PM
Oct 2019

"Joe Kennedy thinks that with the backing of the establishment and the old guard of the Democratic Party that he can beat a progressive champion for justice. Let’s show Kennedy that he’s wrong."

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
7. I like them both and have met Joe Kennedy. However I side with Ed Markey on this one.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:18 PM
Oct 2019

Were i still in my long time former home state of MA, Markey would be getting my vote and it wuld be cast with no offense meant to Joe Kennedy.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
11. So did Elizabeth Warren in a great video.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:11 PM
Oct 2019


I don't see her asking to split donations with him. I give donations straight to the candidate, not to anyone that endorses them.

I will be voting for Markey as I did the last time around, just as I did for Joe Kennedy running as my congressman.

I truly hope that AOC and Crowley don't make this a spitting contest. I also do not wish to see my Congressman or my Senator smeared. I will be upset if that happens. Though it looks like already has from the tweet in the OP.


Shane Goldmacher

@ShaneGoldmacher

"Joe Kennedy thinks that with the backing of the establishment and the old guard of the Democratic Party that he can beat a progressive champion for justice. Let’s show Kennedy that he’s wrong."

Signed "Team AOC"


How Shane can call Crowley "establishment" and "old guard" to smear my Congressman, is beyond me. Both Crowley and Markey have been in government for over 4 decades.

Please just let the candidates do their jobs and run their campaigns in their own State. Let's not make this the Red Sox vs the Yankees.

Thank you.

Markey 2020~

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. I have no idea why Kennedy is challenging Markey.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 07:43 PM
Oct 2019

I trully believe that Kennedy has blown his chance to move to the upper chamber.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. Read the fine print. She's using Kennedy's name to fundraise for herself:
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:16 AM
Oct 2019

"Will you join our small dollar movement by splitting a $3 contribution between Ed Markey and AOC?"

If anyone "gives" Markey $3, $1.50 goes to her. I've only seen one other politician do that.

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
18. I think it's bullshit that people go after Crowley.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:18 AM
Oct 2019

He was great for us.

People like to primary incumbents, until they don't like it.

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