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Link to tweet
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Nancy Pelosi
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@SpeakerPelosi
Once again, @realDonaldTrump is deserting an ally in a foolish attempt to appease a foreign strongman this time betraying our Kurdish allies who have been instrumental partners in our mission to eradicate ISIS. https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/10719
October 7, 2019
Press Release
San Francisco Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued this statement following President Trumps decision to withdraw U.S. forces from Northern Syria:
The Presidents decision to withdraw U.S. forces from Northern Syria is a deeply disturbing development that betrays our Kurdish allies who have been instrumental partners in our mission to eradicate ISIS. Despite what the President might say, ISIS remains a serious threat. This reckless, misguided decision undermines the efforts by our brave servicemembers and our allies to end ISISs tyranny.
Once again, President Trump is deserting an ally in a foolish attempt to appease an authoritarian strongman. By turning operational responsibility over to the Turks, President Trump has abandoned our Kurdish partners. This decision poses a dire threat to regional security and stability, and sends a dangerous message to Iran and Russia, as well as our allies, that the United States is no longer a trusted partner.
The President must reverse this dangerous decision. The American people deserve a smart, strong and strategic national security policy that keeps America safe.
https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/10719
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)These bastards make me sick.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)calimary
(81,304 posts)Make em wear it!
NoMoreRepugs
(9,435 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,077 posts)aggiesal
(8,916 posts)from the Donnie-Smorgasbord
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)He's been asking everyone else.
Oh wait, I see it's Putin's birthday. Wow that present even got Dump's mealymouthed cronies to squawk, if feebly.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Cut and Run!
They used it against us.
What are we doing now?
BumRushDaShow
(129,077 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,467 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,077 posts)Grins
(7,217 posts)Who wrote that? Susan Collins?
This is not harsh enough nor pointed enough. By far!
BumRushDaShow
(129,077 posts)that the President has control over the military -
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Section 2.
The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
Fortunately the Speaker knows the Constitution despite the President having little or no clue and only following the advice from whoever he spoke to "last". The rest of her statement including the - "This reckless, misguided decision" - takes her rhetoric a bit further as a note.
The problem is not the House but the Senate and their outrage needs to continue to ratchet up.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Never good enough ...
certainot
(9,090 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Oh, wait a minute...
magicarpet
(14,155 posts).... park their families safely from warmonger/war lords.
trDump knows Turkey is far richer with reserve assets for any future commercial development - office, hotel, residential (trDump) tower projects. Plenty of land in Turkey just waiting for an up scale developer to come along and make everyone with their fingers in Turkey's land development pie filthy - filthy rich.
trDump says fuck the Kurds,... trDump's corrupt ambitions needs investors with very fat wallets and deep pockets so he can develop land with truck loads and truck loads of laundered money so he can make a financial killing on each and every project.
Look up team trDump's and daughter Ivanka using highly questionable laundered funds mostly from Iran's Revolutionary Guards to develop the trDump Tower (in Afghanistan), excuse me incorrect,.. this trDump Tower development was in Azerbaijan. The development project was finished three years ago and trDump Tower Azerbaijan still remains vacant. It was a sham money laundering development that went belly up.
Link to trDump Tower finished just prior to the 2016 election,.. then mysteriously disappeared off the radar screen,.. the project was like a Mafia land development.
But now the trDump Team would rather
no one mentions this open cesspool that went belly up. And caught on fire a few times.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal/amp
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_International_Hotel_and_Tower_(Baku)
littlemissmartypants
(22,691 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,077 posts)Link to tweet
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Nancy Pelosi
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@SpeakerPelosi
Generations of US leaders have understood that accepting let alone seeking out political favors from foreign countries is unacceptable. Republicans who say otherwise today are putting loyalty to Trump ahead of our national security. #TruthExposed https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/06/us/politics/trump-foreign-influence.html
... from the linked NYT article -
By Peter Baker
Oct. 6, 2019
WASHINGTON One day in October 1992, four Republican congressmen showed up in the Oval Office with an audacious recommendation. President George Bush was losing his re-election race, and they told him the only way to win was to hammer his challenger Bill Clintons patriotism for protesting the Vietnam War while in London and visiting Moscow as a young man.
Mr. Bush was largely on board with that approach. But what came next crossed the line, as far as he and his team were concerned. They wanted us to contact the Russians or the British to seek information on Bill Clintons trip to Moscow, James A. Baker III, Mr. Bushs White House chief of staff, wrote in a memo later that day. I said we absolutely could not do that.
President Trump insists he and his attorney general did nothing wrong by seeking damaging information about his domestic opponents from Ukraine, Australia, Italy and Britain or by publicly calling on China to investigate his most prominent Democratic challenger. But for every other White House in the modern era, Republican and Democratic, the idea of enlisting help from foreign powers for political advantage was seen as unwise and politically dangerous, if not unprincipled.
A survey of 10 former White House chiefs of staff under Presidents Ronald Reagan, Bush, Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama found that none recalled any circumstance under which the White House had solicited or accepted political help from other countries, and all said they would have considered the very idea out of bounds.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/06/us/politics/trump-foreign-influence.html
Cha
(297,284 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,691 posts)panfluteman
(2,065 posts)And that's all Erdogan needs to say to Trump to get him to roll over and submit. The guy's so vulnerable, compromised and full of conflicts of interest that he is silly putty in the hands of authoritarian strongmen. This is gangster diplomacy, folks - and maybe the only kind of diplomacy that Mafia Don understands.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)It might be important to also note that "terrorism" is an ideology. All these years we have been hearing the word used to indicate a rather vague enemy in that sense. It has been used to justify many actions.
Okay, so that being considered, it is a threat. What does Trump's action do in relation to that? He has provided fuel for that ideology, plain and simple. This is what happens when there is little knowledge of what is going on and no concern for the long-term impacts.
Any terrorist propaganda, pamphlets and recruiting feeds on something like this egregious betrayal. They will point out how America cannot be trusted and will betray you in order to destroy you. Sounds like a win for terrorism and ISIS and so, we may see a real resurgence and increase in terrorism as a price for this fool's folly and self-interests.
How's that for diplomacy, example and detente? Winning?
malthaussen
(17,202 posts)I don't think he's "appeasing" anybody. I think he a) mostly doesn't care, because he has the understanding of cabbage, and b) really grooves on Erdogen and is in favor of him kicking Mid-East butt.
-- Mal
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)Though not specifically saying his company could benefit, he was speaking his language - Developmentese.
BumRushDaShow
(129,077 posts)since he is deep in it with Turkey.
By David Brennan On 10/7/19 at 8:11 AM EDT
U.S. troops have been withdrawn from positions in northern Syria ahead of an imminent Turkish military operation into the region, which will pit Ankara's troops against America's Kurdish allies who bore the brunt of the coalition operations against ISIS in Syria. Trump has wanted U.S. troops out of northern and eastern Syria for some time. However, he has remained publicly supportive of the Kurdish authorities there, which have liberated the region from occupying ISIS forces. But on Sunday, the president abruptly announced that American troops would not stand in the way of a Turkish military offensive against the Kurds, despite earlier suggestions that the U.S. would look out for Kurdish interests.
As the world reacted to America's sudden abandonment of its most trusted and effective local allies, a tweet from Trump's daughter Ivanka resurfaced, detailing a relevant conflict of interest regarding relations with Turkey. "Thank you Prime Minister Erdogan for joining us yesterday to celebrate the launch of #TrumpTowers Istanbul!" Ivanka wrote in April 2012. The constructionmade up of two conjoined towersis one of seven current Trump Towers locations. Trump has promised to keep his business empire separate, handing over control of his commercial operations to sons Eric and Donald Jr. for the duration of his time in office. Trump has refused to fully divest from his empire, in what critics have said was a violation of the Constitution's emoluments clause.
Multiple investigations and reports allege that Trump has been personally profiting from the presidency, using the office to bolster income at his resorts, hotels and other businesses. Foreign officials, for example, have been spending huge sums at his properties, in an effort to ingratiate themselves with his administration. Social media users expressed concern that Trump's businesses interests in Turkey may have prompted, or at least influenced, his decision to allow Erdogan to go ahead with his military offensive.
Ryan Lizza, Politico's chief Washington correspondent explained on Twitter that situations like this "is why presidents divest." "It is crazy that a president is making national security decisions like the one tonight when he has lucrative business relationships at stake in the country that will benefit," Lizza added.
https://www.newsweek.com/ivanka-trump-tweet-thanking-turkey-erdogan-attending-istanbul-trump-towers-launch-syria-controversy-1463536
By Jack Holmes
Oct 7, 2019
Donald Trumpthe man we've seen fit to give enormous power to shape world events the consequences of which will reverberate through the duration of our mortal liveshas few admirable qualities. One is his at least rhetorical aversion to Endless War, and his impulse to extricate the United States from conflicts in which no one can tell us what victory even looks like. However, it is more than offset by other features of his psyche, not least his militant incuriosity about the world and his impulsive decision-making process.
All of the above were on show with his decision to abandon our Kurdish allies in northern Syria and allow the area to be invadedand likely dominatedby Turkey. Trump made the seemingly snap decision overnight after a call with Turkey's authoritarian strongman Recep Tayyip Erdogan Sunday. This has even earned pushback from reliable Trump toads like Lindsey Graham and Fox & Friend Brian Kilmeade. Already, the president's former special envoy on ISIS has released a scorching assessment of the decision, which completely contradicts all policy planning by Trump's own military and diplomatic corps. But while Brett McGurk's assessment of Trump holds water ("He makes impulsive decisions with no knowledge or deliberation. He sends military personnel into harms way with no backing. He blusters and then leaves our allies exposed when adversaries call his bluff." ), there's another factor worth considering. "I have a little conflict of interest 'cause I have a major, major building in Istanbul," Trump said in December 2015. "It's a tremendously successful job. It's called Trump Towerstwo towers, instead of one, not the usual one, its two."
The way to neutralize this conflict of interest, of course, would have been for the president to fully divest from his private business holdings when he took public office and pledged to represent the interests of the American people. That was the way to assuage concerns about the sprawling web of foreign business interests that he still maintains, which hangs like a dark cloud over every decision he makes with respect to American foreign policy. Did he shield Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman from consequences for the murder of American-resident journalist Jamal Khashoggi last year because he thought the alliance with Saudi Arabia was too valuable to jeopardize, the same way past American presidents have excused Saudi atrocities? Or was it because the Saudis are putting money in his pocket?
The same questions apply here. Did he sign onto Erdogan's plan on the phone call because he's an easy mark? Or because he wants to join the league of autocrats who are not accountable to anyone within their borders, free to run their crony-capitalist kleptocracies? Or because he wants to protect a specific business interest in the Turkish capital that he's already admitted presents a conflict? Did Erdogan convince him that this was good policy for the United States, or did he convince him that it would be good for his wallet?
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a29385848/donald-trump-syria-kurds-turkey-trump-tower-istanbul/
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)A thousand times a day.