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roamer65

(36,745 posts) Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:59 PM Oct 2019

Impeach Trump and kick Turkey out of NATO.

Both need to happen IMMEDIATELY.

The Kurds have been American allies for years. There will be blowback.

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Impeach Trump and kick Turkey out of NATO. (Original Post) roamer65 Oct 2019 OP

Getting Turkey out of NATO will be almost impossible unless it voluntarily withdraws, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #1

It could end up dragging NATO into a ME war. roamer65 Oct 2019 #2

NATO has to comply with Article 5. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #3

There is another way.....and Putin would love it.... Xolodno Oct 2019 #5

yes and no Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #4

Better idea -- Dissolve NATO or at the very least get the USA out. Odoreida Oct 2019 #6

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)

1. Getting Turkey out of NATO will be almost impossible unless it voluntarily withdraws,

Reply to roamer65 (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:11 PM

Oct 2019

which is unlikely. There are no provisions in the NATO treaty dealing with expulsion, and no member country has ever been expelled, though one may leave voluntarily. If other NATO members wanted to expel Turkey, they would have to take it up with the North Atlantic Council (NAC), NATO's top decision-making body. However, NAC decisions must be unanimously approved by all 29 member states, and even if all agreed, Turkey could use its veto to quash that action. It seems that the only circumstance by which Turkey could be expelled is if it directly attacks another NATO country. It appears that NATO is stuck with Turkey as things stand now.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)

2. It could end up dragging NATO into a ME war.

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:26 PM

Oct 2019

I would hope NATO refuses Turkey any assistance.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)

3. NATO has to comply with Article 5.

Reply to roamer65 (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:31 PM

Oct 2019

An attack against any NATO country is considered to be an attack against all, and the member states are obliged by the NATO treaty to assist.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)

5. There is another way.....and Putin would love it....

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:37 PM

Oct 2019

...dissolve NATO. Then reincorporate as the EU Armed Forces.

Voltaire2

(13,061 posts)

4. yes and no

Reply to roamer65 (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:12 PM

Oct 2019

Odoreida

(1,549 posts)

6. Better idea -- Dissolve NATO or at the very least get the USA out.

Reply to roamer65 (Original post)

Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:47 PM

Oct 2019

NATO did a good job of deterring the USSR without going nuclear.

Since the fall of the USSR it is the international colonial policeman of American billionaires.

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