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JimGinPA

(14,811 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:04 PM Oct 2019

Dick's CEO says company destroyed $5M worth of assault rifles

https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/464717-dicks-ceo-says-5-million-worth-of-assault-rifles-were?fbclid=IwAR1q6PqmNarvb6BkLogSVcAWTW5udaSxeOW2lDUEdJHR0N86wKkLJINV21E&fbclid=IwAR3ueUcZh6nIUoEjWjH04MxPG8DCmZT6jZfQS6N6EQBfzwjGaohCgTqZM4M



The CEO of Dick’s Sporting Goods says that after the company made the decision to no longer sell assault-style rifles, more than $5 million worth of the weapons were destroyed.

In an interview with CBS News that aired Sunday, Ed Stack said following the decision last year to stop offering assault-style rifles, the question of what to with the remaining inventory lingered.

"I said, 'You know what? If we really think these things should be off the street, we need to destroy them,'" Stack said, adding that the company turned $5 million worth of the weapons into scrap metal.

Dick’s made the decision to stop carrying the rifles following the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., which left 17 dead and reignited the national conversation surrounding gun control.

"We found out that we sold this kid a shotgun," Stack said. "That's when I said, 'We're done.'"


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Dick's CEO says company destroyed $5M worth of assault rifles (Original Post) JimGinPA Oct 2019 OP
Good move. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #1
CBS Sunday Morning... llmart Oct 2019 #2
I saw it on the CBS show Sunday Morning too... Upthevibe Oct 2019 #22
The only correct thing to do. defacto7 Oct 2019 #3
Thank you, Ed STACK UTUSN Oct 2019 #4
Thank you. Exactly. sharedvalues Oct 2019 #8
They sold the shotgun, but destroyed the assault rifles fescuerescue Oct 2019 #5
I think they made a strong and brave 1st move alittlelark Oct 2019 #7
Why? Shotguns are legit hunting guns. GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #10
The murders that incited the decision were committed with a shotgun. fescuerescue Oct 2019 #14
No, You're Mistaken JimGinPA Oct 2019 #16
Well, no. Thats just wrong. GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #24
Read the CEO's statement fescuerescue Oct 2019 #32
Read it again... SeattleVet Oct 2019 #33
Logic! I like it... It was a close call for Dick's - too close. Time to ban assault weapons before IndyOp Oct 2019 #41
Ah I see fescuerescue Oct 2019 #42
wrong obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author fescuerescue Oct 2019 #43
Most mass shootings are with pistols hardluck Oct 2019 #70
Of course you are correct. GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #71
You are spreading a faslsehood -- 100% not true obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #36
I made a reasonable inferance from the CEO's own statement. fescuerescue Oct 2019 #44
Shotguns have a legitimate purpose for hunting AllyCat Oct 2019 #61
As are some rifles. cstanleytech Oct 2019 #65
Of course. At our family deer camp where most are republicans GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #68
It is not an all or nothing situation. Shotguns have real uses other than killing people. bitterross Oct 2019 #17
+1....n/t bluecollar2 Oct 2019 #31
When all the assault weapons are turned in fescuerescue Oct 2019 #45
You are being completly unrealistic. /nt bitterross Oct 2019 #50
Pistols hardluck Oct 2019 #69
Good. If Congress won't get them off the streets then we must do it ourselves. Initech Oct 2019 #6
Lives were just saved aeromanKC Oct 2019 #9
Good. warmfeet Oct 2019 #11
What do you call $5 Million of assault weapons destroyed? SCVDem Oct 2019 #12
Gunners not liking this one. Kingofalldems Oct 2019 #13
It must be a boner killer for them RhodeIslandOne Oct 2019 #19
Why? Dick's guns are usually overpriced hack89 Oct 2019 #35
There's at least one in the thread BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #49
I hope they get good press for this - it should help their bottom line FakeNoose Oct 2019 #15
Thanks for posting. Thank you Dick's. NT emmaverybo Oct 2019 #18
Id be more impressed if they went back to the manufacturers for a refund quakerboy Oct 2019 #20
I agree fescuerescue Oct 2019 #46
Kick lunasun Oct 2019 #21
A poor business decision, but ManiacJoe Oct 2019 #23
No big deal mauserk98 Oct 2019 #51
Seems like an odd thing to say. ManiacJoe Oct 2019 #75
Where are the photos of Dick's destroyed assault rifles. Until I see them, I don't believe them. ancianita Oct 2019 #25
whatever obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #39
According To Daily Kos They Were Scrapped & Melted JimGinPA Oct 2019 #48
Nope. Cuz we all know how truthful big business is. Big Tobacco. Big Oil. Big Ag. It's similar PR. ancianita Oct 2019 #52
Given the requirements for the legal documentation of those serial numbers, ManiacJoe Oct 2019 #77
Fine. Where is the serial number documentation, then. ancianita Oct 2019 #78
Just out of curiosity, ManiacJoe Oct 2019 #79
Just out of curiosity, myself, why don't people show pictures of the empty assault displays. Why are ancianita Oct 2019 #80
An interest set of questions. ManiacJoe Oct 2019 #81
Yes, to cater favor, maybe a bet that the announcement will pay off in increased business. ancianita Oct 2019 #82
Oh, a good conspiracy theory is fun! ManiacJoe Oct 2019 #84
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Oct 2019 #26
This is why, when shopping for my grandnephews' dflprincess Oct 2019 #27
Kudos to Dicks. I will forever be a loyal customer dlk Oct 2019 #28
Good for them!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #29
Good cp Oct 2019 #30
Just wait Jake Stern Oct 2019 #34
Kick dalton99a Oct 2019 #38
I support Dick's pecosbob Oct 2019 #40
good bdamomma Oct 2019 #47
Kick for the gunners. Kingofalldems Oct 2019 #53
How many lives were saved? LittleGirl Oct 2019 #54
One or two at the most hack89 Oct 2019 #59
Oh please. Do you deny the dozens killed in just the few AllyCat Oct 2019 #62
You missed my point hack89 Oct 2019 #63
hundreds, obviously. eom LittleGirl Oct 2019 #72
About a 100 I would say hack89 Oct 2019 #74
apparently, not ALL CEOs are sociopaths! Good move, Mr. Stack! Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #55
I support the banning of all guns - but, packman Oct 2019 #56
Wow! That's proactive. Nitram Oct 2019 #57
Support Dick's Olafjoy Oct 2019 #58
I'll be driving for 30 minutes to buy some shoes. Jakes Progress Oct 2019 #60
Wow, a company that cares about the public more than profits, denvine Oct 2019 #64
Dick's already paid the gun distributors for the rifles. No pain for distributors or manufacturers. aikoaiko Oct 2019 #66
Quite the opposite fescuerescue Oct 2019 #83
so can they write this off as some kind of inventory loss imavoter Oct 2019 #67
Even if they write it off they are still out 70% of what they paid. Hoyt Oct 2019 #76
It's a good move. It's also late, and it won't be enough to fix this problem either. NCLefty Oct 2019 #73

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
10. Why? Shotguns are legit hunting guns.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:10 PM
Oct 2019

I applaud their decision on assault weapons.

But a huge number of Democratic Party members own and hunt with shotguns. Just like their great grandfathers did. I actually hunt with my grandfathers shotgun. But I am concerned that the 60 year old gun is nearing the end of its safe life. If I need to replace it Dicks will be the first place as I look. As it now is when I need sporting clothes. Before the made their statement on assault guns they really weren’t on my radar. Or no more than other stores. Now they are my first choice.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. Well, no. Thats just wrong.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:40 PM
Oct 2019

Every recent mass shooting in the US has been with an assault rifle except Virginia Tech which was with a large capacity semiautomatic handgun. Which are actually is responsible for most gun deaths in the US.

But getting rid of shotguns! We would lose all 50 states with bullshit politics like that. You ban shotguns you ban hunting.

Thankful that will never happen.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
32. Read the CEO's statement
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:42 AM
Oct 2019

He speaks of the killer using a shotgun purchased from Dicks sporting goods. It's right there in the OP.

If he is incorrect, so am I.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
33. Read it again...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:18 AM
Oct 2019

he did buy a shotgun at a Dick's, but that was not the weapon that was used in the shooting.

IndyOp

(15,524 posts)
41. Logic! I like it... It was a close call for Dick's - too close. Time to ban assault weapons before
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:48 AM
Oct 2019

an assault weapon sold by Dick's is used in mass murder.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
42. Ah I see
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:12 AM
Oct 2019

So he bought a weapon there but didn't use it. Well I apologize for making an inference. I wonder how the company that DID sell him the weapon handled it?

Interesting catalyst, and it's good he destroyed all the assault weapons. Still he should have destroyed all the shotguns too.

Even if it wasn't used this time. How is that CEO going to feel when a customer of his buys a shotgun and DOES murder someone?

Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #37)

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
71. Of course you are correct.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:15 PM
Oct 2019

Handguns are used in the vast majority of all gun murders. I was referring to huge casualty shootings and even one of the worst, Virginia Tech was with high capacity semiautomatic handguns.

But I guess we have to start somewhere.

Personally I don’t care much about the type of gun. I want magazine sizes limited to 10 or less. Won’t solve everything but would help.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
44. I made a reasonable inferance from the CEO's own statement.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:16 AM
Oct 2019

Perhaps it's an inference that I shouldn't have made, but I think it's one that a reasonable person would have made. After all the killer purchased a shotgun there, proceeded to kill people and then the CEO made a very very large corporate decision to destroy $5m worth of firearms.

I don't study these these murders in as much detail as many gun afficiaodos do.

I stand corrected.

Still those shotguns will kill just as fast as the assault weapons. In fact many police carry shotguns.

This CEO did a good thing. Now he needs to complete and it destroy the shotguns too.

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
61. Shotguns have a legitimate purpose for hunting
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:02 PM
Oct 2019

Assault weapons have no purpose except to kill human beings.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
65. As are some rifles.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:03 PM
Oct 2019

I'm not talking about the ones that can mow down Bambi like a weed wacker either rather I'm talking mainly about the bolt-action ones that are manually reloaded.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
68. Of course. At our family deer camp where most are republicans
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:26 PM
Oct 2019

Everyone, without exception uses a bolt action rifle that holds between 4-6 bullets and must be manually reloaded after every shot. Same technology from WWI.

Even the republicans I hunt with take making an ethical kill very serious. If you can’t routinely kill a deer with one shot you have no business deer hunting.

The caliber of these guns are very deadly. Way more so than handguns. We are crazy to allow firearms that can hold 20-30 bullets of these calibers and can be fired as fast as you can pull the trigger so easily assessable.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
17. It is not an all or nothing situation. Shotguns have real uses other than killing people.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:57 PM
Oct 2019

I grew up on a farm. We had shotguns and a bolt-action 22. Both of these have uses that are completely unrelated to killing other humans. We had to eliminate rodents and other non-human pests with them. There is also no reason why people should not be allowed to hunt when they are going to actually use the meat and hides.

My father taught us gun safety. One other thing to note. My dad would never let us get a pistol. He said that those are only people-hunting guns and there is no reason for them. My father was also very specific about "sport hunting." He said there was no such thing. If one was going to kill an animal one was going to eat it/use its hide out of respect for the animal. No killing things just to stuff them or hang them on the wall.

If you can believe it, when I was a kid, the NRA actually sponsored gun safety classes at my high school. They taught gun safety during gym class and we used shotguns with live ammo to shoot clay pigeons. Times were obviously different then. The NRA wasn't exclusively the La Pierre gun-manufacturer's lobby.

When it comes to home defense, I'd recommend a pump-action shotgun to anyone. They are easy to use and they do not require a lot of practice to become skilled. Yes, there are reasons to have something like this for home defense. Not everyone is lucky enough to live in a quiet, safe neighborhood.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
45. When all the assault weapons are turned in
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:17 AM
Oct 2019

What weapon will the mass killers use? I'm guessing shotguns.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
6. Good. If Congress won't get them off the streets then we must do it ourselves.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:49 PM
Oct 2019

Seriously fuck the NRA.

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
9. Lives were just saved
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:02 PM
Oct 2019

People out there somewhere, we don't know who or where, but people out there somewhere have just been saved from being killed in the future. These are real people with real lives and real families.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
12. What do you call $5 Million of assault weapons destroyed?
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:21 PM
Oct 2019

A good start!

C'Mon, I know you were thinking it!

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
15. I hope they get good press for this - it should help their bottom line
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:44 PM
Oct 2019

Thank you Dick's Sporting Goods!

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
20. Id be more impressed if they went back to the manufacturers for a refund
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:06 PM
Oct 2019

thats 5 million staying in the pockets of the gun companies.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
46. I agree
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:21 AM
Oct 2019

They profited off all of those, and the market for those weapons is still there, so those buyers went to other outlets.

Financially, the manufacturer got 2 sales for the same set of buyers. Also the manufacturer gets further financial relief by releasing the warranty reserve dollars set aside for that $5m. That's probably another $500k right there.

They may not have had the legal ability to do that however. Depends on the contract between Dicks and the manufacturers.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
52. Nope. Cuz we all know how truthful big business is. Big Tobacco. Big Oil. Big Ag. It's similar PR.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:16 PM
Oct 2019

Get the photos and I'll trust him.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
77. Given the requirements for the legal documentation of those serial numbers,
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:24 PM
Oct 2019

I have no problem believing that the guns were legally destroyed.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
78. Fine. Where is the serial number documentation, then.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:46 PM
Oct 2019
The CEO never mentions anything about proof. We just have to take him at his word.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
79. Just out of curiosity,
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:49 PM
Oct 2019

what do you think the company did with the guns that were removed from the stores, if they were not destroyed as claimed?

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
80. Just out of curiosity, myself, why don't people show pictures of the empty assault displays. Why are
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:59 PM
Oct 2019

all the photos I see of Dick's gun sections full of big rifle and gun displays, but no photos of the destroyed assault weapons.

Why is that?

Why is everyone so happy to believe what they can't get proof of?

Why do I have to even think the company removed $5 million in guns from the stores on his sayso?

AND why didn't any reporters literally ask him what his stores actually did with the guns that were removed?

Why does no one here ask what the company did with the $5million in guns that were removed?

What do YOU think the company did with them?

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
81. An interest set of questions.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 11:36 PM
Oct 2019

Most likely, the display cases are not empty but filled with the remaining stock.

Most people either don't care or are willing to accept that the legal documentation has been satisfied.

The removal of the rifles from the stores is easily verified by going to the stores.

I don't care what the company did with the guns since it was purely a choice to cater favor with a vocal segment of society and since destroying the rifles was a bad business decision. The 6000-ish rifles are easily replaced by the current suppliers.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
82. Yes, to cater favor, maybe a bet that the announcement will pay off in increased business.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:20 AM
Oct 2019

I've read right wing sites, most of whom don't believe he destroyed them, most of whom think he just took the tax write-off and got rid of them on the black market or gun show circuit, most of whom say they wouldn't shop at Dick's anyway and never have.

Their opinions are no more based on any fact of seeing the destroyed guns than those who believe him. So if not grounded in fact, what's belief or disbelief worth.

If gun control people want to be happy about his claim, his reasons, that's their choice. But the way I'm taking this news is, we're really not getting the whole picture.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
84. Oh, a good conspiracy theory is fun!
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 09:41 PM
Oct 2019

However, I do wish those guys on the RW sites would share what they are smoking or drinking.

dflprincess

(28,078 posts)
27. This is why, when shopping for my grandnephews'
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:46 PM
Oct 2019

Little league gear this year I took them to Dick's instead of somewhere cheaper.

dlk

(11,566 posts)
28. Kudos to Dicks. I will forever be a loyal customer
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:48 PM
Oct 2019

Think of the lives that were saved by their courageous decision.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
29. Good for them!!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:01 AM
Oct 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
34. Just wait
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:25 AM
Oct 2019

Until some whack-a-loon Republican legislator somewhere files a bill requiring stores like Dicks to dispose of firearms they no longer want to sell at a public auction or something similar.

Crazy idea? They specialize in crazy.

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
62. Oh please. Do you deny the dozens killed in just the few
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:05 PM
Oct 2019

Heavily publicized mass shootings this summer alone?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
63. You missed my point
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:09 PM
Oct 2019

What percentage of all assault weapons do these destroyed represent? A tiny fraction- right..? And nothing stopping a gun buyer from buying elsewhere. So thousands of lives were not saved. More likely none.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
74. About a 100 I would say
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 09:02 AM
Oct 2019

the FBI lumps deaths by assault weapons with shotguns and all other rifles so it is hard to get a hard number but the combined total is aprox 300 deaths.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
56. I support the banning of all guns - but,
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:13 PM
Oct 2019

If I had my rathers, and push came to shove, I would support shotguns that you have to reload after a single shot or even double barreled ones

Olafjoy

(937 posts)
58. Support Dick's
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:05 PM
Oct 2019

I always shop there and tell the cashiers as well as those surveys on the receipts that I am doing so because of their stand on assault rifles.

denvine

(800 posts)
64. Wow, a company that cares about the public more than profits,
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:38 PM
Oct 2019

at least in this case, which is huge. Thank you Ed Stack.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
83. Quite the opposite
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 11:22 AM
Oct 2019

Since the buyers @ Dicks for those guns will be turned away, they will end up making the purchase at another reseller.

Effectively, The manufacturers will make and sell 2 guys for each would be purchase at Dicks. One that got destroyed and one that was made to fill the inventory somewhere else.

Law of unintended consequences is weird.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
76. Even if they write it off they are still out 70% of what they paid.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:21 PM
Oct 2019

They deserve credit.

Hopefully, they’ll attract a lot of customers from the 80% of the population who aren’t in love with their assault style weapons.

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