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triron

(22,003 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:43 PM Oct 2019

FBI officials: "You guys are finally going to get that bitch." (NY Field office?)




"During the 2016 presidential election, one of the two major candidates labored under the shadow of a criminal investigation by the F.B.I. That candidate was Hillary Clinton. As we now know, though voters had little reason to apprehend it at the time, there were actually two investigations underway — and, while the probe into Clinton’s mishandling of emails played out in public, the more serious probe of Donald Trump’s secret political and financial connections with Russia remained largely unknown until well after the voting had concluded."



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FBI officials: "You guys are finally going to get that bitch." (NY Field office?) (Original Post) triron Oct 2019 OP
This is what I have been hearing since Comey came out ... pbmus Oct 2019 #1
Moles. Some of these guys are un-American with Russia. rockfordfile Oct 2019 #2
We have seen that movie. Moles, assets, Putin protectors... emmaverybo Oct 2019 #4
That Manhattan office Giuliani is thick with is full of RW Hortensis Oct 2019 #33
The Rethugs have little to say about the Opus Dei field office in New York. Dawson Leery Oct 2019 #3
Opus Dei is all over NYC and DC blm Oct 2019 #5
So please educate us about Opus Dei, I really am curious. triron Oct 2019 #9
Google ODAN, the real story about Opus Dei. They're fascists. And worse. SharonAnn Oct 2019 #11
Kavanaugh? triron Oct 2019 #15
Probably. And Alito and Clarence Thomas. And Scalia. Not Sotomayor.. SharonAnn Oct 2019 #16
Chief Justice Roberts and his wife are Opus Dei dhol82 Oct 2019 #26
So where is the invesitgation and outrage about these texts? bitterross Oct 2019 #6
I wonder how they're feeling now StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #7
They're probably happy that he's dismantling democracy. SharonAnn Oct 2019 #17
I was thinking the same thing. Dan Oct 2019 #23
...but Peter Strzok & his lover....had a bias spanone Oct 2019 #8
+1000. We have all heard that one ad nauseum! Tanuki Oct 2019 #32
I had heard that division of the FBI described as "Trumplandia" Poiuyt Oct 2019 #10
Wouldn't be surprised that many are Opus Dei. Very right-wing. SharonAnn Oct 2019 #18
They were actually in deep with Giuliani. dhol82 Oct 2019 #27
The actual Deep State consists of a bunch of Trumpists ffr Oct 2019 #12
Starting with William Barr. Kid Berwyn Oct 2019 #14
William Barr and Opus Dei SharonAnn Oct 2019 #19
I'm reminded of when Bush's people fired all those U.S. Attorneys for not being conservative enough. NCLefty Oct 2019 #22
Is this where Rudy Giuliani comes in? Kid Berwyn Oct 2019 #13
well, their wish came true, they certainly helped to get tRump elected. nt yaesu Oct 2019 #20
More than helped. The Comey letter installed Trump sharedvalues Oct 2019 #31
They claim it's about freedom and God... dchill Oct 2019 #21
Scary part now is that there is no center. Dan Oct 2019 #24
KR&B. Informative, and several valuable links in this thread. ms liberty Oct 2019 #25
F**k Comey and the FBI. still_one Oct 2019 #28
The drumpfian fiasco has showed me 2 things. democratisphere Oct 2019 #29
This is the biggest scandal of the 2016 election sharedvalues Oct 2019 #30
Clearly, FBI agents with a personal bias against a presidential candidate hughee99 Oct 2019 #34
This is the part of 2016 that made the most angry...and I still want blood. pecosbob Oct 2019 #35
Opus Dei has been supporting Fascists for as long as there were Fascists DFW Oct 2019 #36

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
1. This is what I have been hearing since Comey came out ...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 10:50 PM
Oct 2019

If you want to be a Dudley then be a doright and tell all...the Big Con was on...and I am still not sure who orchestrated the coup...?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. That Manhattan office Giuliani is thick with is full of RW
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:12 AM
Oct 2019

renegades out of control. These quotes expose their signature attitude, but others did back then also.

Russia? I don't leap to think the worst of even them, but hard-core RWers keep being proven bad in so many ways these days. Seriously, extremism is not compatible with honesty or good judgement, and they've become extreme. Your comment made their counterparts running the NRA come to mind.

SharonAnn

(13,775 posts)
11. Google ODAN, the real story about Opus Dei. They're fascists. And worse.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:07 AM
Oct 2019

Last edited Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:41 AM - Edit history (1)

The reason I hate conservative Catholics is that they support autocrats because they’re fascists.
Also, the Legion of Christ.

My Chilean niece is a member and was studying for her master’s degree at Columbia in New York. When we visited New York she would only meet us for lunch “because of the rats”. When I asked, she explained that at the opulent Opus Dei facility in New York where she lived, women had to enter through the back door in the alley. And at night there were lots of rats in the alley. She had been conditioned to think that it was acceptable that men could enter through the front door and that women had to enter through the alley door. Sent chills down my spine.

So I started researching them. Big supporters of Pinochet in Chile, Fujimori in Peru, Franco in Spain. And several members of our Supreme Court. Scary.

Most members and supporters of Opus Dei will not admit it to outsiders. Numeraries are not allowed to read anything that is not approved by their spiritual director. No watching the news, no newspapers, no visits and holidays with family, no friends outside Opus Dei. It’s a cult, a very wealthy and influential cult.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
26. Chief Justice Roberts and his wife are Opus Dei
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:58 AM
Oct 2019

One of the reasons I keep waiting for him to do some evil stuff.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
6. So where is the invesitgation and outrage about these texts?
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:06 PM
Oct 2019

Yeah, I know. That's never going to happen. It's only an issue if you are a Trump.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. I wonder how they're feeling now
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:12 PM
Oct 2019

that the guy they helped win has crapped all over them, their colleagues and their organization ...

ffr

(22,670 posts)
12. The actual Deep State consists of a bunch of Trumpists
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:12 AM
Oct 2019

that play to whatever tRump's shadow government aka Waffen SS, want done.

Kid Berwyn

(14,907 posts)
14. Starting with William Barr.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:22 AM
Oct 2019

This is why we can’t have nice things.



Bill Barr: The “Cover-Up General”

"At the center of the criticism is the chief artic­ulator of Bush's imperial presidency," we reported in 1992, "the man who wrote the legal rationale for the Gulf War, the Panama invasion, and the officially sanctioned kidnapping of foreign nationals abroad"


by FRANK SNEPP
The Village Voice, APRIL 18, 2019

Snip...

For the next two years, as chief of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Coun­sel, Barr played a key role in shaping Rich­ard Thornburgh’s stormy tenure as attorney general. In a job that was essentially politi­cal, he helped maintain the administra­tion’s ideological purity by screening out judicial candidates who weren’t conserva­tive enough. He also drafted two key docu­ments rationalizing the U.S. invasion of Panama and the seizure of General Manuel Noriega.

Snip...

In mid 1990, as Thornburgh’s own prob­lems with Congress deepened, Barr was tapped to run interference, and was named deputy attorney general. The appointment came just in time for him to draft another landmark tract for the administration, the legal pretext for the undeclared war against Iraq. It would have made any Nixonite proud. Explaining it later to Congress, Barr said he believed there was a “gray zone” between a declared offensive war and an emergency defensive action where “there is latitude for the president, if he believes that the vital interests of the United States are threatened by foreign military attack, there is room for him to respond.”

Barr did not make clear how the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait equaled an attack on vital American interests, but to his credit, at the moment of decision itself, he did counsel the president to soften the impact of his unilateral rush to war by seeking a declaration of congressional support. That piece of advice, much akin to Johnson’s leveraging of the Tonkin Gulf resolution, helped to keep the naysayers at bay.

Barr’s service to the administration, how­ever, wasn’t limited simply to such flashes of political savvy. In 1991 he became active in stone-walling the Iraqgate and the BCCI investigations and further gratified conser­vatives by keeping up the tattoo on their favorite hot-button issues. Embracing im­migration policy as his own, he helped craft an exception rule that automatically barred HIV-positive sufferers from entering the country. Civil libertarians charged illegal discrimination and even racism, since many of those excluded were black Hai­tians. Barr assured Congress that the policy was meant only to keep out people who might be thrown back on public welfare.

Flogging another conservative hobby­horse, Barr fought hard as deputy AG to keep federal courts from expanding their right to review state criminal convictions on writs of habeas corpus. As a devout Catholic, he also pandered to the antiabor­tion crowd, even “torquing” the law in Au­gust 1991 to advance their crusade. The challenge came when a federal judge in Wichita issued an order barring anti-abor­tion demonstrators from blocking access to a clinic. The Justice Department inter­vened to try to force a lifting of the ban. Later asked about this by Congress, Barr gave an exquisitely technical rationale, as­serting that though the demonstrators were “lawbreakers . . . treading on other people’s rights,” they “should be dealt with” in state court, not federal court — thus the federal judge’s order was unenforceable.

Continues...

https://www.villagevoice.com/2019/04/18/attorney-general-william-barr-is-the-best-reason-to-vote-for-clinton/



Barr is the rock which covers all manner of the vilest treasons.

Kid Berwyn

(14,907 posts)
13. Is this where Rudy Giuliani comes in?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:20 AM
Oct 2019

Washington (CNN)Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani now denies that he was told by FBI agents that the bureau was reviewing newly discovered emails potentially related to Hillary Clinton's use of a private server before the review was publicly revealed.

Continues...

https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/04/politics/rudy-giuliani-hillary-clinton-email-fbi/index.html

dchill

(38,497 posts)
21. They claim it's about freedom and God...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 01:07 AM
Oct 2019

But it's all about money and power. It ALWAYS IS with these pin-pricks.

ms liberty

(8,577 posts)
25. KR&B. Informative, and several valuable links in this thread.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:46 AM
Oct 2019

Opus Dei always seems to be hanging out with the fascists and authoritarians. Hmmm...

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
29. The drumpfian fiasco has showed me 2 things.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:22 AM
Oct 2019

The rethuglicon party is deeply corrupt and will only continue to get worse with time. 40% of American voters will believe anything the rethuglicon propaganda machine tells them, think lying-cheating-stealing is OK under any circumstances and are racists and evil as hell.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
30. This is the biggest scandal of the 2016 election
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:40 AM
Oct 2019

The FBI installed Trump into office by inducing Comey to send his letter.

And no one is investigating. It’s a crime.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
34. Clearly, FBI agents with a personal bias against a presidential candidate
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:22 AM
Oct 2019

Can’t be trusted to do their job professionally.

DFW

(54,387 posts)
36. Opus Dei has been supporting Fascists for as long as there were Fascists
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:46 PM
Oct 2019

Their arrogant name is Latin for "the work of God," and they are as conditioned to believe it as much as the Hitler Youth was conditioned to believe that the Aryans really WERE the master race. If you can find some films of some of their events in Spain during the Spanish Civil War, you will see them in white hoods and robes that resemble the KKK. I actually wonder which organization was the first to use them.

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