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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:01 AM Oct 2019

Sondland No-Show: The timing of this is more interesting than the decision.

The timing of this is more interesting than the decision. They could've objected a week ago. Pulling the plug the morning of suggests the WH has figured out some of his answers would be really damaging.



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Sondland No-Show: The timing of this is more interesting than the decision. (Original Post) kpete Oct 2019 OP
More proof Andy823 Oct 2019 #1
Sondland had no business getting involved in Ukraine at all. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #2
LOCK HIM UP: It's TIME to play HARDBALL MagickMuffin Oct 2019 #3
WTF is congress waiting for? Use inherent contempt. triron Oct 2019 #4
Exactly, show these cretins the Power the House wields MagickMuffin Oct 2019 #5
Why Sondland can's testify. . . . Scenario: skip fox Oct 2019 #6
Rats figured out they're cornered on this one flamingdem Oct 2019 #7
Either that or... kentuck Oct 2019 #8
Or maybe they are just assholes and like fucking with us. smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #9

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,703 posts)
2. Sondland had no business getting involved in Ukraine at all.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:24 AM
Oct 2019

He's the ambassador to the EU, of which Ukraine is not a member. And he isn't even qualified to do that - he's a rich guy who bought his ambassadorship. It's true that these positions are often offered to big donors as rewards for their support, but what they're expected to do is hold parties and dinners at their embassies, dress up and behave themselves and do the meet-and-greet stuff while leaving the heavy lifting to career foreign service staff. But Fat Nixon and Fat Nosferatu apparently decided to enlist this tool to run interference for them behind the backs of the actual diplomats. Then, when the actual acting ambassador, Bill Taylor, figured out what they were up to and started objecting, Sondland got his marching orders and told Taylor, in a carefully-lawyered text, that of course there was no quid pro quo and we're not going to discuss this in text messages. Obviously Sondland can testify about who told him to shut Taylor up, among other things.

MagickMuffin

(15,942 posts)
5. Exactly, show these cretins the Power the House wields
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:38 AM
Oct 2019
LOCK THEM UP

I think/believe the cretins will behave a lot differently if they got locked up. I don't think they would like their freedom taken away.

Sing little birdies SING

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
6. Why Sondland can's testify. . . . Scenario:
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:40 AM
Oct 2019

Scenario:

Ambassador Gordon Sondland receives call from Bill Turner warning against quid pro quo.

Sondland calls Trump.

Trump consults with advisor for several hours.

Trumps call Sondland to tell Taylor in no uncertain terms that there is no quid pro quo and to stop text messaging about aid to the Ukraine and Biden

Sondland calls Taylor and follows the President's dictates.


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The problem with Sondland testifying is that he can't claim executive privilege while hiding the existence of his communication with Trump, and once he admits talking to Trump in that five-hour period the reason for his denial to Taylor will be obvious and implicate Trump even more in obstruction.

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
8. Either that or...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:00 AM
Oct 2019

Trump is a control freak and no one else has any authority. He has just been over-whelmed with everything and he just got to the Sondland crisis.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. Or maybe they are just assholes and like fucking with us.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:03 AM
Oct 2019

I think that is probably the most likely case. I'm sure his answers would be damaging (if they were even truthful), but they are still assholes and like sticking it to us.

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