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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:34 AM Oct 2019

Democrats snoozed while Republicans took over the courts. It's time to fight back

Democrats snoozed while Republicans took over the courts. It's time to fight back
The Democratic base is tired of the party being passive about Republicans packing the judiciary. So what’s their game plan?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/08/democrats-judiciary-right-wing-kavanaugh?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVUy0xOTEwMDg%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUS&CMP=GTUS_email

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But the protesters’ anger at the court went beyond Kavanaugh himself, and beyond, even, the insult to women’s dignity and threat to women’s rights that the man represents. Representative Ayanna Pressley, of Massachusettes, told the crowd, “Kavanaugh may have that seat (for now), but what we are fighting for is so much bigger than one insecure man blinded by his privilege.” The protesters see Kavanaugh as only the most egregious symptom of a court system that is gravely diseased. Their action speaks to a growing liberal agitation around the judiciary, led by feminists, that is poised to change the politics of the courts.

Traditionally, it was only the right that cared about the judiciary. Republicans ran on promises to appoint judges that would uphold conservative social values, and oppose abortion and gay rights. Those judges in turn enshrined the legality of gerrymandering, curtailed voting rights, and opened the floodgates of unlimited corporate money in politics, interventions which have enabled the Republican party to maintain power even in districts where they have only a minority of popular support. The result became cyclical: Republicans won by promising to appoint conservative judges, and then those conservative judges issued decisions that helped more Republicans win.

To the left, the judiciary had often been more of an afterthought. Conventional wisdom held that the judiciary could not be counted on as a motivating issue for Democrats the same way that it could for Republicans. But the Kavanaugh appointment brought a new sense of urgency to the matter; the Court’s new conservative majority, and the spectacle of the emotional Senate confirmation hearings through which Republicans secured this majority, galvanized the attention of a Democratic base that increasingly feels that its basic civil rights are imperiled under a federal judiciary packed with Trump appointees and a Supreme Court controlled by Trump allies.

There is some evidence that this concern expands well beyond the activist left: in September, a poll conducted by the firm Perry Undem found that a full 60% of Americans thought it likely that Brett Kavanaugh committed perjury during his confirmation hearings, a figure that suggests that popular support for impeaching the Justice may be easy for Democrats to come by. Support for abortion rights is even higher, meaning that the Supreme Court, which is poised to issue the first assault on abortion of its new conservative majority just before the next presidential election, is not only comprised of justices that the people do not trust, but is also likely to hand down opinions that the people do not want.

And this is the problem with the Supreme Court: it is a profoundly un-democratic institution, and has only been made more so by the right’s determination to politicize the court and to manipulate it into helping them secure a policy agenda that runs counter to popular will. The gross injustice of the Kavanaugh confirmation made Americans—and feminists in particular—more aware of the urgency of the problem, and less accepting of its inevitability.

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NewDayOranges

(692 posts)
1. Democrats weren't snoozing...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:40 AM
Oct 2019

There just weren't enough of them to block the people Trump nominated or obstruct the republicans who confirmed these backwards judges...

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
3. Senate Democrats weren't snoozing. It was Democratic voters who snoozed in 2010 and 2014
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:56 AM
Oct 2019

and let the Senate flip to Republican control because they were either too apathetic or too spiteful to vote in the mid-terms.

Polybius

(15,421 posts)
10. At least two or three Senate races were winnable in 2018 too
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:33 PM
Oct 2019

Florida especially should have been one.

dajoki

(10,678 posts)
14. So should have been PA...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:03 PM
Oct 2019

toomey won by a very small margin, I don't remember what it was exactly, I think around 1% but that is one of the questionable states with all the interference. It is also my state.

BumRushDaShow

(129,032 posts)
15. The bizarre thing about the McGinty/Toomey race
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:27 PM
Oct 2019

was that it seemed to parallel the votes for Hillary as a "close loss", whereas voters overwhelming elected Democrats for all the top state positions (State Attorney General, State Treasurer, State Auditor General).

Polybius

(15,421 posts)
17. Sometimes that legitimately happens though
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:46 PM
Oct 2019

Not saying PA is legit or not (I didn't really follow that election as much as I should have), but take Massachusetts Republican Governor Charlie Baker for example. The rest of the state elected Democrats by huge margins, and he wins in a landslide fair and square.

BumRushDaShow

(129,032 posts)
18. We tend to have govnerors alternate parties
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:51 AM
Oct 2019

but I know looking at 2016 here, you can see a bunch of folks apparently didn't vote for the top of the ticket or for Senate, but did vote for the other top state positions just based on the vote totals. But... that is now water under a bridge. But in 2018, we were able to re-elect a Democrat for governor (Wolf) and keep Casey (another Democrat) in his Senate seat for another 6-year term - which actually made him the longest-serving Democratic Senator here in PA if I'm not mistaken.

still_one

(92,193 posts)
5. Where are those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 10:11 AM
Oct 2019

in 2016, and who spew the LIE that there was no difference between republicans and Democrats?

It didn't take much either.

In every swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%. Jill Stein received 1% of the vote in those states

Along with Comey, foreign interference they all had a part in helping the Democrats lose two SC nominations


maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
9. Muscovite Mitch changed the rules to make confirmation easier.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:24 PM
Oct 2019

AFTER blocking most of Obama's nominees, up to and including Garland.

"Snoozing" is when you're not paying attention, not when you have no tools to object.

MineralMan

(146,315 posts)
11. No, we weren't snoozing. I and others like me warned constantly
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:39 PM
Oct 2019

about the risk of the Republicans gaining control of all three branches of federal government. And yet, that is exactly what happened in 2016. Too many people who would otherwise vote for Democrats ended up not voting or voted for someone like the detestable Jill Stein. And we ended up with Trump in the White House, with Republicans in control of Congress.

So, that combination allowed Republicans to pack the courts, just like I and others warned about.

There was a way to prevent that from happening. That prevention didn't occur. The warning was there, but went unheeded by too many. Fewer than 90,000 votes in three states combined made all the difference.

Did we learn? I certainly hope we did.

Nitram

(22,802 posts)
12. No. Democrats didn't snooze. They had no recourse. The Senate approves nominees to the court,
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:36 PM
Oct 2019

and Republicans have a majority in the Senate. That's why McConnell has supported Trump through thick and thin. How would Democrats have forced McConnell to bring Garland up for a vote? Taking it to court would have taken too long.

Demsrule86

(68,577 posts)
13. Maybe the left should have supported Obama in 10 and 14...and Hillary in 16...they helped lose the
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:45 PM
Oct 2019

courts and as many of us warned...this is a lifetime appointment for right wing judges some who are not even qualified...what would this country look like if there was no Nader and no Stein...and we had Obama's back in 10 14.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Trump could have written that headline, it's that clueless.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:43 AM
Oct 2019

And dishonestly hostile.

The courts are filled by those voters put in power. Our nation shifted more conservative back in the Reagan era, so power became dominated by conservatives.

But it didn't have to stay that way. It's the vote. This is all the fault of those who don't vote or vote mean and stupid. I despise those who don't vote then whine and complain about "they" and "them."

And I really despise those who refused to vote Democrat in 2016 and are now, of course, blaming Democrats because Republicans are packing the courts with RW extremists. What did they expect!? I'd like to beat them all with a stick. They're base, all right, not our party base, just fools who really need to take an honest look in a mirror and try to be better people.

And they can start by not blaming others for what their grave failures and betrayals have caused.

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