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demmiblue

(36,855 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:14 AM Oct 2019

Inside Trump's obsession with polygraphs

Increasingly paranoid about leaks, the president has repeatedly mused about administering lie detector tests to White House officials.



President Donald Trump has compared White House leakers with spies and mused obliquely to other officials about executing them. He’s attacked reporters by name. He rails frequently against media accounts of his administration, dismissing them as “fake news.”

But privately, the president is so obsessed with the leaks about him that he has frequently discussed whether to order polygraphs of White House staffers after major disclosures, according to four former White House officials — in what would be a stark and politically risky departure from past practice.

Trump “constantly” talks about ordering polygraphs during major leaks, according to a former White House official. “He talked about it a lot,” the former official said. After reading and watching reports about his presidency, “He’d be angry and ask, ‘Why can’t we stop these things?’”

“He wanted to polygraph every employee in the building to unearth who it was who spoke to the press,” said another former official, who noted that the president tends to be especially irate when he knows specific news accounts are true. Some White House staffers have even volunteered to take a polygraph, also called a lie-detector test, to prove their innocence after they were suspected of leaking, according to the former official.

The new details of Trump’s repeated interest in polygraphing provide important context on the president’s state of mind as Democrats demand answers about the White House’s handling of records of his interactions with foreign leaders. A whistleblower has accused White House officials of improperly storing transcripts of the president’s phone calls in a system meant for highly classified intelligence secrets, including a conversation with the president of Ukraine that has set off a spiraling impeachment inquiry in the House of Representatives.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/08/trump-obsession-polygraphs-leaks-038431


He is already batshit, but I hope this gnaws at him day and night!
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Inside Trump's obsession with polygraphs (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2019 OP
and after polygraphs? vlyons Oct 2019 #1
Rubio will be first in line... Blue Owl Oct 2019 #4
"I really inspire my staff!" struggle4progress Oct 2019 #2
How about trump taking one first. CatMor Oct 2019 #3
I doubt they would get a baseline. gordianot Oct 2019 #5
Can you even imagine?! demmiblue Oct 2019 #6
Good one .... sure made me laugh. CatMor Oct 2019 #7
Good. I'm glad he is paranoid and alienating his staff. fleur-de-lisa Oct 2019 #8
A room of senate Republicans where only the cumulative total number of lies is reported Cicada Oct 2019 #9
You go first, Donwald! MineralMan Oct 2019 #10
He's just stupid enough to think they work. Mosby Oct 2019 #11
Needless to say, Disaffected Oct 2019 #12
Aren't polygraphs essentially meaningless on sociopaths? tanyev Oct 2019 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 2019 #14
I would think that being a pathological liar... Dave Starsky Oct 2019 #16
Polygraphs help you identify the pathological liars... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #15

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
9. A room of senate Republicans where only the cumulative total number of lies is reported
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:01 PM
Oct 2019

Should Trump be removed from office?

We could offer $10,000 for charity for every participant.

Disaffected

(4,555 posts)
12. Needless to say,
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:12 PM
Oct 2019

Trump is oblivious to the fact that polygraphs don't actually work. Their only utility lies in that most people don't realize that and may therefore be cajoled into confessing when required to take one.

The real downside is that polygraphs are pretty easy to beat if you know the right techniques and, even in more normal circumstances, have far to many false positives and negatives.

Voodoo "science" with about as much veracity as dowsing or astrology...

tanyev

(42,559 posts)
13. Aren't polygraphs essentially meaningless on sociopaths?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:35 PM
Oct 2019

Trump might think a staff full of sociopaths is a good thing, but they would be the first to turn on him once they perceive he's about to drag them down.

Response to tanyev (Reply #13)

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
16. I would think that being a pathological liar...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:23 PM
Oct 2019

He would know firsthand how easy these things are to beat. But, then, he literally doesn't know anything about anything.

Polygraphs supposedly measure the stress responses associated with lying. He lies just as easily as breathing.

Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
15. Polygraphs help you identify the pathological liars...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:21 PM
Oct 2019

if you can pass one of those, you can lie well enough to work for Trump.

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