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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:33 PM Oct 2019

Did you ever wonder why the Flu hits hardest during the Winter?

Here's why: In November and December, Americans get on airplanes in hordes, flying from where they are to somewhere else for Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years. Channukah, too, for that matter. Air travel, on that scale, is an ideal way for the flu virus to spread. One person with the flu on an airplane can expose the entire plane to the virus, since air is simply recirculated inside the fuselage. Our desire to get together with our scattered families is to blame.

So, on the Thanksgiving holiday, folks with the flu carry it with them as an unexpected gift for their relatives and unsuspecting fellow passengers. Then, a few days later, all those newly-exposed folks get back on planes and fly back to where they live. Then, a month later, the process repeats itself for the Christmas holidays, but with way more sick people flying than at Thanksgiving.

Suddenly, the flu, which had been prevalent in little pockets around the country is suddenly widespread, thanks to air travel and our desire to spend time with our relatives. After New Years, people stop flying around so much and air travel goes back to being mainly for business. Little by little, the flu season dies down - until the following Fall.

Get your flu shot, folks. Thanksgiving is just over a month away, and your relatives who don't get the shot are coming. Be afraid. Be very afraid!

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Did you ever wonder why the Flu hits hardest during the Winter? (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2019 OP
I got my flu shot Friday The Genealogist Oct 2019 #1
Got mine today. MineralMan Oct 2019 #3
Yes, and it has nothing to do with cooler weather... DrToast Oct 2019 #2
So, they started celebrating Thanksgiving in May in Australia? jberryhill Oct 2019 #5
That's nonsense jberryhill Oct 2019 #4
You're confused DrToast Oct 2019 #9
I did not say it was "caused by the cold weather" jberryhill Oct 2019 #11
Very interesting LeftInTX Oct 2019 #17
Recently we were discussing the fact that I haven't had a cold let alone flu malaise Oct 2019 #6
Makes sense. Less exposure to people means less chance MineralMan Oct 2019 #15
Actually, there has been flu before there were airplanes. The reasons are others: DetlefK Oct 2019 #7
Ducks and hog confinement lagoons in China are the key. marble falls Oct 2019 #8
Kinda sounds like why a great many people are Iliyah Oct 2019 #10
When the frost is on the pumpkin... MineralMan Oct 2019 #16
Oh, and don't forget Vitamin D! OhZone Oct 2019 #12
I have always noticed it starts Doreen Oct 2019 #13
Schools n shopping randr Oct 2019 #14
People clustering in confined spaces in colder months provide vectors for the virus pecosbob Oct 2019 #18

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
1. I got my flu shot Friday
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:36 PM
Oct 2019

Comtrary to the norm for me, i scarcely noticed he shot, and my arm was sore for less than 24 hours. Small price to pay for a good chance at avoiding a miserable bug.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. That's nonsense
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:39 PM
Oct 2019

Flu season occurs during the colder, drier months, when people spend more time indoors.

No, they don't have Thanksgiving in May in Argentina as the austral winter approaches. Ditto Australia.

They don't have a Thanksgiving in November in Canada either, and it's not as if they are catching the flu from Americans traveling for that holiday. The notion that flu season, which is a hemispheric phenomenon, has some connection to a uniquely US holiday is absurd. Are Americans also traveling to Europe for Thanksgiving?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flu_season

Flu season is an annually recurring time period characterized by the prevalence of outbreaks of influenza (flu). The season occurs during the cold half of the year in each hemisphere.

...
In the United States, the flu season is considered October through May. It usually peaks in February. In Australia, the flu season is considered May to October. It usually peaks in August.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
9. You're confused
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:45 PM
Oct 2019

It’s not caused by the cold weather. It’s because people are more likely to aggregate indoors when the weather is cold.

You’re basically agreeing with the original post.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. I did not say it was "caused by the cold weather"
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:51 PM
Oct 2019

Please do not put words in my mouth. The article to which I linked states that it occurs during the cold weather months.

Flu season is not caused by Thanksgiving travel. It occurs in Canada, Europe and other regions of the northern hemisphere which do not observe a particular US holiday. Likewise it occurs in South America and Australia during their corresponding cooler months having nothing to do with a particular US holiday.

The flu virus does not propagate well in warm temperatures:

Research in guinea pigs has shown that the aerosol transmission of the virus is enhanced when the air is cold and dry. The dependence on aridity appears to be due to degradation of the virus particles in moist air, while the dependence on cold appears to be due to infected hosts shedding the virus for a longer period of time. The researchers did not find that the cold impaired the immune response of the guinea pigs to the virus.

Research done by National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) in 2008 found that the influenza virus has a "butter-like coating". The coating melts when it enters the respiratory tract. In the winter, the coating becomes a hardened shell; therefore, it can survive in the cold weather similar to a spore. In the summer, the coating melts before the virus reaches the respiratory tract.


LeftInTX

(25,363 posts)
17. Very interesting
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 01:23 PM
Oct 2019

Also dry conditions create vulnerabilities in the human respiratory tract.

I wonder if cold viruses are similar? Flu isn't the only virus the impacts us in the winter.

malaise

(269,022 posts)
6. Recently we were discussing the fact that I haven't had a cold let alone flu
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:40 PM
Oct 2019

once since I retired and then it hit me.
I am no longer exposed to so many people in confined spaces. Contagious students pass on lots of colds and flu. We're talking four years without a cold or flu.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
7. Actually, there has been flu before there were airplanes. The reasons are others:
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:42 PM
Oct 2019

The weather in winter is cold and dry. Your mucous membranes in nose and throat dry out and have a harder time keeping viruses out. The odds of infection increase.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. When the frost is on the pumpkin...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 01:18 PM
Oct 2019

There's a rhyme about that.

My parents know the date I was conceived. My father was about to be shipped out to Europe, during WWII. My mother took a train to the base where he would be shipped out from, and they had one night together before he left. That night was October 31, 1944. I was born on July 29 the next year. They always called me their Halloween baby.

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
12. Oh, and don't forget Vitamin D!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:52 PM
Oct 2019

You get less by natural sunlight in the cooler months because you are wearing more clothes and indoors more.

So remember to take your RDA of D3.

I get a lot during summer because I love to lay out on the beach with medium level sunblock but low enough to get some color.

In winter, I dress in my furs. ha.

So I take more Vit D.


Doreen

(11,686 posts)
13. I have always noticed it starts
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 01:06 PM
Oct 2019

during the time most kids go back to school. I have always figured that all of those kids were once again stuffed into a building together and exposing each other to what ever they may be carrying.

All of that sudden close contact has to account for something.

I have also noticed it hits harder with kids in grade school up into into about 7th and 8th. I think that's because the younger kids are still not as good at washing their hands.

I guess as someone who has worked in public schools as a custodian that is what I observed every year.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
18. People clustering in confined spaces in colder months provide vectors for the virus
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 01:25 PM
Oct 2019

Those vectors then travel to and from other flu clusters. One should see this confirmed in northern versus southern hemisphere comparisons.

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