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applegrove

(118,659 posts) Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:57 PM Oct 2019

Adam Silver comes out in favour of free speech regarding China. That

is the right thing to do. The NBA of all leagues should be leading on human rights as they usially do. I'm relieved. How far will China go in shutting up the world? If they ban the NBA their people will know and suffer and blame China. The people are basketball mad. If the NBA with this group of player leadership doesn't stand up it would be a shame.I kind of felt no matter how management kowtowed the players would not allow it and i bet that is what happened.

Here is an earlier bit on the story:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/business/daryl-morey-tweet-nba-china/index.html

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Adam Silver comes out in favour of free speech regarding China. That (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2019 OP

I'm just amazed at the number of people who think appeasing China is appropriate ripcord Oct 2019 #1

I was in China in the 90s and I have a different perspective. abqtommy Oct 2019 #2

The NBA is not the NFL. NBA much more progressive ownership and applegrove Oct 2019 #3

You could be right but then you could be crazy, too. abqtommy Oct 2019 #4

Maybe the NBA should start with the little brown children in Don the Con's malaise Oct 2019 #5

ripcord

(5,403 posts)

1. I'm just amazed at the number of people who think appeasing China is appropriate

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:14 PM

Oct 2019

Some people don't want to face the facts that China is a horrible country, it begins with their abysmal record on human rights then continues into theft of intellectual property and counterfeiting of products, 87% of the counterfeit goods seized in the US are from Hong Kong and mainland China, for the rest of the world it is at 80%. The South China Sea is an awful land grab, with China having their Coast Guard and exploration ships in Vietnamese waters they are really ramping things up and this could draw in the US since we have a mutual defense treaty with the Philippines, one of the countries China is stealing from. Trump is right to stand up to China, he is just too stupid to know how to do it.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)

2. I was in China in the 90s and I have a different perspective.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:45 PM

Oct 2019

I had no desire to be whisked away to a secret prison so I did my best to behave in a friendly and non-controversial manner, avoiding the arrogance I found in other travelers I met. That worked for me.

A wise man has sad that true change must come from within. The goes for persons like tRUMP and nations too. Unless there is that personal/national epiphany then any and all outside efforts will be wasted. The best way to influence another government would be for the US government to present a rational and ethical methodology of dealing with other peoples and governments. That's not happening and it strikes me as hypocritical for the leader of a sports franchise to speak out when (cough) Colin Rand Kaepernick (cough) got blackballed for his personal demonstrations.

Now I'm not always that smart but when I was in China the only reply to questions about politics I made was that I didn't make or enforce US laws. And to be honest very few Chinese people brought up the topic. Ninety-nine percent of the Chinese people I met were friendly or neutral and that's a ratio I found wherever I traveled.