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senseandsensibility

(17,096 posts)
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:55 PM Sep 2012

You know why you rarely hear about the meaning of Labor Day anymore?

It's because corporations don't want you to think about it. Sure, they'll take your money for "Labor Day" sales, but never a word will be spoken about what this holiday is all about. Not even the local news will breathe a word about it.

But Labor Day is my favorite holiday. It gives me a chance to thank all the labor leaders who have struggled and died for my right to a safe workplace, a forty hour work week, paid vacation, and sick leave. I understand that some don't have that, and if the corporations have their way none of us will.

That's why they don't want us talking about it. But we should anyway. What do you say?
Let's hear it for those you worked so hard for what we have, and for those who are still working, still striving against incredible odds.

It's up to us. Happy Labor Day!

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You know why you rarely hear about the meaning of Labor Day anymore? (Original Post) senseandsensibility Sep 2012 OP
If the Teabillies gain power...... mick063 Sep 2012 #1
Absolutely. senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #3
They like the day off work too well to get rid of it gollygee Sep 2012 #7
Ask yourself this. mick063 Sep 2012 #41
Amen...Well stated... abq e streeter Sep 2012 #2
Sure. senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #4
40 hour work week? Skittles Sep 2012 #5
In the sense that druidity33 Sep 2012 #6
ELIGIBLE being the operative word Skittles Sep 2012 #17
not everybody is eligible limpyhobbler Sep 2012 #26
yeah and who do you think druidity33 Sep 2012 #44
probably the usual suspects. limpyhobbler Sep 2012 #45
Labor Day should be May 1 like it is in the rest of the world central scrutinizer Sep 2012 #8
Everything about labor is reviled by the American govt. and press. senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #9
Maybe not anymore WhoIsNumberNone Sep 2012 #37
I think I remember Thom Hartmann saying it's not taught senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #42
I'm sure it's not WhoIsNumberNone Sep 2012 #43
instead May 1 is LAW DAY BOG PERSON Sep 2012 #13
Yep that's my Labor Day.......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2012 #25
K&R! Omaha Steve Sep 2012 #10
My mom has a different take on meaning of Labor Day and she never let's us forget it Brother Buzz Sep 2012 #11
Lol senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #12
Same here! abelenkpe Sep 2012 #23
I think Labor will make a big comeback Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2012 #14
I think the shock to Wall Street will be the rise of white-collar professional unions. reformist2 Sep 2012 #22
Neighbor has a sign out this weekend: Proud To Be Union lunasun Sep 2012 #15
K&R DeSwiss Sep 2012 #16
Thanks. I hadn't seen this thread. senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #34
Not a single one of those that Republicans don't think is bad for business WhoIsNumberNone Sep 2012 #38
Labor Day. Workers' rights. Unions. Civilized society. nt valerief Sep 2012 #18
K&R SunSeeker Sep 2012 #19
Happy May Day!! Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #20
This is true. I noticed that one of my bosses sent out a holiday e-mail... Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #21
My dumbass neighbors were shooting off fireworks. femmocrat Sep 2012 #24
kick and rec. limpyhobbler Sep 2012 #27
Names --- add to my list jerseyjack Sep 2012 #28
Labor Day was always a joke. It's supposed to be May Day. johnlucas Sep 2012 #29
K&R It's always nice when these facts are put on display. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #30
My guess, because so many people aren't laboring. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2012 #31
k and r niyad Sep 2012 #32
As a member of a rapidly shrinking private union tavalon Sep 2012 #33
I'm all over it , on my facebook wall proud patriot Sep 2012 #35
Same reason it's in September instead of May 1st. Marr Sep 2012 #36
K&R! theinquisitivechad Sep 2012 #39
Because everyone - except government employees - has to work on it. VPStoltz Sep 2012 #40
 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
1. If the Teabillies gain power......
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:00 PM
Sep 2012

I look for the Federal government to officially stop recognizing two holidays.

1) Martin Luther King Jr. Day
2) Labor Day


Stop and think about what they stand for.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
7. They like the day off work too well to get rid of it
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:14 PM
Sep 2012

They'll probably rename it Free Market Day or something.

And they'll get rid of MLK Day and have a Ronald Reagan Day.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
41. Ask yourself this.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 05:37 PM
Sep 2012

Would WalMart be in favor of deleting two national holidays?

Then again, i'm not sure if WalMart pays their employees any more for holidays or not.

If not, they could probably care less. Regardless, you can be sure that they will be open.

If so, they most cetainly would omit a couple of holidays if given the chance. From the GOP standpoint, this is all about what the "job creators" think is best. Because what is good for them, "trickles down to us" What a crock of shit.

Retail stores are a 24/7 operation. Consumers love it. Employees hate it.

abq e streeter

(7,658 posts)
2. Amen...Well stated...
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:02 PM
Sep 2012

Would you mind if I copied for facebook;just attributing it to "something I saw on the net" or something like that?

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
6. In the sense that
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:12 PM
Sep 2012

if you work more than that you are eligible for OVERTIME pay. Also thank the Unions for that one...



druidity33

(6,446 posts)
44. yeah and who do you think
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 07:21 AM
Sep 2012

created those exemptions? Sure wasn't the Unions.

But why not criticize them for not getting 100% of what they wanted, right?



limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
45. probably the usual suspects.
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:50 AM
Sep 2012

That wasn't intended as a criticism. It was suggested if you work more than 40 hours you are eligible for overtime pay. I was just pointing out that a lot of people are not eligible for overtime.



central scrutinizer

(11,657 posts)
8. Labor Day should be May 1 like it is in the rest of the world
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:26 PM
Sep 2012

The irony is that May 1 honors the American labor heroes and martyrs who stood up at Haymarket Square in Chicago. They were an inspiration to working people world wide but were reviled as anarchists by the American government and press.

senseandsensibility

(17,096 posts)
9. Everything about labor is reviled by the American govt. and press.
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:32 PM
Sep 2012

Because of that, the average American worker doesn't even know how they won their working conditions. Even the schools don't teach labor history.

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
37. Maybe not anymore
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:23 PM
Sep 2012

Well- almost certainly not anymore if they're in Texas or using Texas textbooks...

But I remember in 7th grade learning about the labor unions and the tenement houses and the kids working in the factories and coal mines- They did actually teach this stuff in schools in Red states during the Raygun administration. I'm sure it was all lost on most of the Hitler Youth I went to school with, but they at least taught it...

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
43. I'm sure it's not
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 08:36 PM
Sep 2012

The Reds have spent the last 20 years infiltrating the school boards and bending the education standards to their narrative.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
25. Yep that's my Labor Day..........
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 10:26 PM
Sep 2012

Of course, since I don't get paid for it (contractor you know), it doesn't matter. I'll celebrate both of them. May 1st is the true Labor Day though IMO.

Brother Buzz

(36,450 posts)
11. My mom has a different take on meaning of Labor Day and she never let's us forget it
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:39 PM
Sep 2012

My younger sister was born on Labor Day.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
14. I think Labor will make a big comeback
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:48 PM
Sep 2012

when workers realize they have been tricked by the right.

we just have to occupy the media. Make them publish the truth not propaganda

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
15. Neighbor has a sign out this weekend: Proud To Be Union
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:50 PM
Sep 2012

But Labor Day is my favorite holiday. It gives me a chance to thank all the labor leaders who have struggled and died for my right to a safe workplace, a forty hour work week, paid vacation, and sick leave. .............................Yes people died for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair

Proletarier aller Länder vereinigt Euch!

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
16. K&R
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:54 PM
Sep 2012

Cross-posted from: This long holiday weekend has been brought to you by the blood sweat and tears of the Labor Movement

[font size=4]20 Reasons To Thank Labor Unions[/font]
September 5, 2011
By Stephen D. Foster Jr.


[center][/center]

Labor unions are responsible for the many benefits of our jobs that we enjoy today. Even if you only work part time in the worst job possible, you still enjoy at least some of the fruits that labor has fought for. Here are 20 of them.

1. Minimum Wage: Without federally mandated minimum wage, we’d still be working for pennies.

2. Child Labor Laws: Without these laws, children would be hired as cheap labor.

3. Paid Vacations: Did you go on a cruise this year? Perhaps to the Grand Canyon or another country? Thank a union.

4. Employer Health Care, Dental, and Vision Insurance: If you have a medical, dental, or vision care plan through your employer, your a lucky person. All because of organized labor.

5. Pensions: If you were able to retire at 65 and get pension checks in the mail, congratulations, you’re living proof that unions work.

6. Safety Conditions: Do you work at a potentially hazardous job but have safety regulations in place to protect you? If so, unions are responsible for your continued safety.

7. Collective Bargaining: Just having the right to negotiate with your employer is a benefit guaranteed by a union.

8. Weekends: If you have weekends off to spend with your families, a labor union is responsible for giving you that time off.

9. Sick Leave: Did you get to use a work provided sick day to get well? Unions fought for that too.

10. Overtime: Are you able to work overtime and get paid even more for it? Thank a union.

11. 8 Hour Work Day: Without unions, we’d all be working non-stop 24/7. Because of unions you’re able to go home and spend some time at home with family and friends before you catch 6-8 hours of sleep.

12. 40 Hour Work Week: Just like number 11, without unions, we’d never have a day off and work would encompass our entire life.

13. Unemployment Benefits: Are you unemployed but receive unemployment benefits to care for your family until you find another job? One word. Unions.

14. Wrongful Termination Laws: Because of unions, you can’t be fired for stupid reasons, like the color of your skin or because you make too much money.

15. Pay Raises: Unions are responsible for your ability to ask for and receive pay raises.

16. Holiday Pay: Do you at least get some holidays off? If so, thank a union.

17. Pregnancy and Parental Leave: In some countries, women give birth on the job and have to go back to work the next day. Corporations would make women do the same thing here if not for the determination of a union.

18. The Right To Strike: We have the right to organize and protest against the government. A union fought for your right to organize and strike against your employer.

19. Equal Pay For Women: Women finally get equal pay for equal work. Thank a union.

20. Laws Ending Sweatshops: Because of unions, sweatshops, which employ cheap labor with harsh conditions, are illegal.

Every right that a worker has in the workplace is all because a union fought hard to get it. As Republicans continue to wipe out unions and weaken them, they also weaken us and our ability to fight back against unfair business practices. We are at risk of losing all the things that unions fought long and hard to secure. Even our jobs are at risk. Because of unions, many of the jobs Americans still hold, have not been outsourced overseas. Unions protect jobs in America and where there are unions, there are jobs. Because the private sector has largely wiped out unions, big corporations are able to lay off American workers and give those jobs to cheap labor overseas. If you want a job, or want to keep yours, organize or join a union and fight for your right to work. Unions fight for the American worker, therefore they fight for us. Anyone who says that unions are un-American only wants to get rid of the above list so that they can make ridiculous profits off the backs off a cheap labor workforce. If you support American workers, American jobs, and the continued prosperity of the American people, support labor unions.

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. This is true. I noticed that one of my bosses sent out a holiday e-mail...
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 10:09 PM
Sep 2012

about the troops! Troops? This is Labor Day.

You should see the e-mail. It started out pretty good, but was followed by some pics that grew in tone from honoring troops to showing them somewhat .... sort of overly hostile...not political but borderline. Most people I work for are Republican.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
24. My dumbass neighbors were shooting off fireworks.
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 10:20 PM
Sep 2012

I went out on the porch and yelled, "Join a Union!!" I don't think they heard me. LOL

 

jerseyjack

(1,361 posts)
28. Names --- add to my list
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 11:16 PM
Sep 2012

Joe Hill
Wild Bill Haywood
Sacco & Vanzetti
Emma Goldman
Haymarket Square
Pullman Strike
Sit-down strike
A. Philip Randolph
Matewan
Wobblies
Knights of Labor

If you live in or near N.J., visit the Labor Museum in Hawthorne.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
29. Labor Day was always a joke. It's supposed to be May Day.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:21 AM
Sep 2012
International Workers' Day on May 1 called May Day since it lines up with the non-political May Day celebration.

International Workers' Day/May Day was supposed to be worldwide call to arms for workers all around the world.
Solidarity & all that.

There's a reason the powerful kept America from joining in this international event.
They pushed the American day all the way to near the other half of the year when people are getting their kids in school & coming back from relaxing in a hot summer.
Then some rich idle woman comes up with this 'Don't wear white after Labor Day' nonsense further diluting the intended message of what was supposed to be May Day–the International Workers' Day.

All we know is that it's the day of Jerry Lewis' Muscular Dystrophy telethon if people still even honor THAT.
Hell, they didn't even let Jerry show up last year to his own telethon.

What should have been May Day in the United States became "Americanization Day" "Loyalty Day" & "Law Day" in the overall push to demonize socialism/communism.
Italy didn't practice socialism despite the storefront advertising.
And the U.S.S.R. & China didn't practice communism despite what is promoted in the brochure.

Linda Richman says "the 'People's Republic of China' is neither a Republic or for the People. Discuss."

Socialism is the Public Library. It's the Fire Department. It's Medicare.
They hate socialism so much but everybody loves to pick up their Social Security check, don't they?

Socialism for the benefit of a society.
Communism for the benefit of a community.
Capitalism for the benefit of capital.

'Capita' means 'Head' in Latin (compare with 'Cabeza' in Spanish AKA Iberian Latin).
How do you harvest a head of cabbage? You cut the stalk.
How do you get a head? You cut the neck.
Getting a head = Cutthroat.

Understand language & you'll never miss the message.
John Lucas

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
33. As a member of a rapidly shrinking private union
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:24 AM
Sep 2012

I know damn well what this day is about and what was paid so I could have union protection.

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