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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:59 AM Oct 2019

Trump: "The so-called Whistleblower" didn't know "I was going to release the exact Transcript!"

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

The so-called Whistleblower, before knowing I was going to release the exact Transcript, stated that my call with the Ukrainian President was “crazy, frightening, and completely lacking in substance related to national security.” This is a very big Lie. Read the Transcript!

8:43 AM · Oct 9, 2019·Twitter for iPhone




Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

....No Pressure at all said Ukraine! Very congenial, a perfect call. The Whistleblower and others spoke BEFORE seeing the Transcript. Now they must apologize to me and stop this ridiculous impeachment!

8:43 AM · Oct 9, 2019·Twitter for iPhone


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Trump: "The so-called Whistleblower" didn't know "I was going to release the exact Transcript!" (Original Post) Miles Archer Oct 2019 OP
Correct Me If I'm Wrong Here - But The Exact Transcript Was Never Released.....nt global1 Oct 2019 #1
True, but you have to admit that what WAS released was beautiful and perfect. Miles Archer Oct 2019 #4
And, when the real transcript is released it will be even more beautifuler and more perfectness LastDemocratInSC Oct 2019 #12
Right! There's an entire thread at DU on this: skip fox Oct 2019 #10
Ugh... FirstLight Oct 2019 #2
None of this matters. No one has said that the whistleblower was wrong or untruthful. Srkdqltr Oct 2019 #3
Not a transcript Raftergirl Oct 2019 #5
Release the other 19 or 20 minutes of the call. Either word by word sinkingfeeling Oct 2019 #6
Stop trying to gaslight us. SummerSnow Oct 2019 #7
"Must apologize"? Cracklin Charlie Oct 2019 #8
It was NOTES nit verbatim 2naSalit Oct 2019 #9
As you noted, it was not the entire trnscript! skip fox Oct 2019 #11
Turn over the full transcript. kentuck Oct 2019 #13

Raftergirl

(1,294 posts)
5. Not a transcript
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 09:17 AM
Oct 2019

Was a memorandum. Said so right on the release.

So sick of this “transcript” crap they keep trotting out. We aren’t blind and can read.

2naSalit

(86,817 posts)
9. It was NOTES nit verbatim
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 09:52 AM
Oct 2019

transcript AND I'm sure anything forthcoming will have been edited for deletion of anything relative to the truth.

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
11. As you noted, it was not the entire trnscript!
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 09:56 AM
Oct 2019
Transcript-Gate:

The Deliberate Attempt by the Trump White House to Misrepresent and Hide the Full Transcript of Trump’s Ukrainian Call



Summary: The WH released a highly redacted summary of the Ukrainian call, likely cutting out more explicit references to quid pro quo.

So far, this file is two sections and links to original documents.

Contents:

–I. Longer, more accurate, word-for-word transcript exists.
–II. The full transcript has eight (8) references to Biden.
–III. Original materials.



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I. A longer, more accurate, word-for-word transcript exists

Dan Bongino on Fox and Friends (10.07.19) claimed the summary of the transcript that the WH released was the entire conversation. He said it is only 11 minutes (of a 30 min. call) because of the time it took the translators to relay the messages. But translators at this level work real-time with the speaker as with speeches the United Nations.

In a 7:3 a.m. tweet on October 9, Trump lied, saying the transcript covered the entire call:

“The so-called Whistleblower, before knowing I was going to release
the exact Transcript, stated that my call with the Ukrainian President
was ‘crazy, frightening, and completely lacking in substance related
to national security.’ This is a very big Lie. Read the Transcript!”


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212561976

But the whistle-blower claimed a fuller, word-for-word transcript exists. On page 3 of the report. he or she writes:

"In the days following the phone call, I learned from multiple U.S. officials
that senior White House officials had intervened to 'lock down' all records
of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the
call that was produced—as is customary—by the White House
Situation Room."
(Bottom, p. 3):

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistle-blower-complaint.html

On Morning Joe Oct. 3rd. Congressman Subramanian Raja Krishnamoorthi (D. Illinois) made the same case clearly, even telling how the actual transcription occurred with voice-recognition software and editing.

On Oct. 9th, CNN confirmed the congressman’s points about the creation of the full transcript:

“. . . a State Department interpreter fluent in Ukrainian was providing
real-time translation. And a duty officer from the Situation Room took
notes that would later be paired with a log of the call using voice
recognition software to put together a rough transcript.”


https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-call-details-aftermath/index.html


Congressman Agnus King (I. Maine) has also noted its existence:

“Independent Senator Angus King has claimed that some 20 minutes of the phone call between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky are missing from the White House memo detailing the conversation.

King told CNN host Anderson Cooper Tuesday that he and his staff had reconstructed the call using the memo, determining that more than two thirds of the call time was unaccounted for.

The full transcript of the now-infamous call between the two leaders has not been released. Though the document makes clear that the read out has been edited, it is not clear exactly how much has been cut, and what those sections may contain.”


https://www.newsweek.com/senator-king-suggests-least-20-minutes-are-missing-trump-ukraine-call-transcript-1462622


Trump’s call to Ukraine was so troubling, the secreted the full transcript to a highly classified server as CNN reported 10.9.19:

“The scramble and fallout from the call, described by six people familiar
with it, parallels and expands upon details described in the whistleblower
complaint. The anxiety and internal concern reflect a phone conversation
that deeply troubled national security professionals. . . .
At least one National Security Council official alerted the White House's
national security lawyers about the concerns, three sources familiar with
the matter said, a detail that had not been previously disclosed. Those
same lawyers would later order the transcript of the call moved to a highly
classified server typically reserved for code-word classified material.
. . .
The order to move the transcript came from the White House's national
security lawyers to prevent more people from seeing it, according to people
familiar with the situation. It also came after recognition the document
would need to be preserved for legal reasons.”




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II. The full transcript has eight (8) references to Biden


ABC News claims Trump mentioned Biden eight(8) times, urging Ukraine to help with investigation as did The Wall Street Journal:

“The newly released transcript of President Donald Trump's phone call
with Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskiy reveals that Trump repeatedly
urged him – eight times -- to work with his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani,
to help with investigations, including into former Vice President Joe Biden
and Biden’s son.
The Wall Street Journalfirst reported on Saturday (9.28) that Trump urged Zelenskiy
to work with Giuliani ‘about eight times’ during the July 25 call.”
(All ABC):

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/times-trump-urged-ukraines-leader-investigate-biden/story?id=65850945

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176 (I couldn’t get passed the pay-wall)


Yet Trump on the SUMMARY transcript only mentions Biden one (1) time.

“A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your
v ery good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people
involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the_
mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to
call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General.
Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very
capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. . . .
(my ellision) The other thing. There's a lot of talk about Biden's son,
that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find
out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General
would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the
prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-transcript-read-ukraine-president-phone-call-transcript-pdf-released-today-joe-biden-crowdstrike-2019-09-25/


Where are the seven or so other times? Are they more explicit about quid pro quo? If Trump and his people made the summary we can count on the fact that the other references are more damning to The President. If we got only 11 mins. of a 30 min. call and that was terrible for Trump, imagine what is in the full 30 min. call!

They even rushed out the summary so no one would think to ask for (or subpoena) the full, word-for-word transcript of the entire 30 min. conversation.

But now that they’ve given us a SUMMARY the subpoena should have great appeal to a judge: after all they represented the summary as indicative of the entire. The Congress has a right to see if this is so.




*******************************************************************


III. Original materials

Full text of whistle-blower complaint can be found at NY Times, Politico, and Fox:


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistle-blower-complaint.html

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/09/26/read-the-trump-ukraine-whistleblower-complaint-002239

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whistleblower-complaint-on-trump-ukraine-call-read-the-document



CBS has the full SUMMARY transcript:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-transcript-read-ukraine-president-phone-call-transcript-pdf-released-today-joe-biden-crowdstrike-2019-09-25/
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