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Imperialism Inc.

(2,495 posts)
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:36 PM Oct 2019

Winners and Losers from Trump throwing Syrian Kurds under the Bus

Not sure how many remember Juan Cole from the Iraq war era but he has a different take on the "gift to Russia" angle. I realize this probably won't be a very welcome point of view but Juan has insight into the region.


Winners and Losers from Trump throwing Syrian Kurds under the Bus
https://www.juancole.com/2019/10/winners-losers-throwing.html

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It is difficult to see in what way Russia is benefited by Turkey’s incursion into northeast Syria. Russia and Turkey are more or less low-key enemies in Syria.

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Turkey is backing some groups inside Idlib, to Russia’s dismay.

So does Russia benefit from more Turkish influence in northern Syria? No. Essentially Trump is allowing Turkey to create a long enclave along the northeast border from which it will ethnically cleanse the Kurds and then send a million of its Sunni Arab refugees into their villages to occupy them permanently. This population will be a Turkish cat’s paw and a wedge against the Kurds in the long term.

Russia doesn’t benefit. Russia wants ultimately to put all of Syria back under al-Assad’s rule, and another Turkish invasion is the last thing Moscow wants.

So what about Iran? I can’t see that this move affects Iran one way or another.
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Winners and Losers from Trump throwing Syrian Kurds under the Bus (Original Post) Imperialism Inc. Oct 2019 OP
Interesting. We know that tRump doesn't understand any of the particulars flamingdem Oct 2019 #1
Yeah that's a good question. Imperialism Inc. Oct 2019 #2

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
1. Interesting. We know that tRump doesn't understand any of the particulars
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:50 PM
Oct 2019

so what's his benefit in all of this. Seems more like an idiotic mistake than a Putin gift to give the Green Light to Turkey.

Imperialism Inc.

(2,495 posts)
2. Yeah that's a good question.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:56 PM
Oct 2019

I think he's just a disaster. Something happened on the phone call and/or he's being impeached and got tired of being told he couldn't do stupid things. Hard to say.

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