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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNYT: Trump wants a fight. Pelosi can hit back. With rules, rigor, and resolution.
Why Pelosi is RIGHT not to take an impeachment vote.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/09/opinion/impeachment-inquiry-trump.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
First, there is nothing magical about a House vote authorizing an impeachment inquiry. The administrations letter calls it a necessary authorization, but thats simply false. A vote isnt required by the Constitution, federal law or the rules of the House of Representatives. The White House is basing its demands for a vote solely on the fact that a similar vote was held by the House during the impeachment proceedings for Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton. But in those cases, the votes were necessary to equip the inquiries with additional investigative authority, such as expanded subpoena power; subsequent changes to House rules make that step unnecessary.
From the Democrats perspective, there are several reasons not to hold a full floor vote. Most significant, Speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to avoid a situation in which the House leadership is conceding that the White House can dictate any of the terms of how an impeachment is conducted, and what sort of process counts as legitimate. Once the House makes that concession, the White House will again move the goal posts, undermining Congresss role as a coequal branch with the authority to manage its impeachment inquiry.
Ms. Pelosi also wants to protect Democratic members who represent more conservative districts from having to take a difficult vote that might come back to haunt them in 2020. This isnt a very compelling rationale, especially when those same members will almost surely be called upon to vote on articles of impeachment soon enough.
Finally, Ms. Pelosi knows that Mr. Trump has no intention of cooperating with an impeachment inquiry, even if it were authorized by a vote. Instead, he would use what would likely be a party-line vote to further disparage the inquiry as a partisan hit job.
SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)They just want to sell tickets to that fight. Thats all they care about.
pnwmom
(108,979 posts)SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)There is nothing that I disagree with.... Until tomorrow when they post something ridiculous to keep the back and forth going. I have been less trusting of the NYT lately. I think their reporting has fallen off. When they started hiring climate change deniers is when they jumped the shark for me.
YMMV
Hekate
(90,708 posts)pnwmom
(108,979 posts)Captain Zero
(6,806 posts)I say fuck 'em and the hypothetical horse they rode in on.